Ask someone who used to have a multiple personality disorder anything.
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Have you ever wanted to let go, stop keeping Waltz back and let it control your life, permanently or just for a few days.
[QUOTE=wombo;35058072]Have you ever wanted to let go, stop keeping Waltz back and let it control your life, permanently or just for a few days.[/QUOTE]
No. Why would I ever want that to happen? That's horrible.
Seriously, what is wrong with you? Do you have any idea how many would get hurt if Waltz was just given free hands?
[QUOTE=Grasp;35057233]This is incredibly interesting [Green], thanks for sharing this with us.
One question though, does Waltz have any sort of aptitude that you do not? (such as perceptive, instinctual, or physical skills)
Now as a follow up, have you ever reached a state of equilibrium with Waltz? A point where you could be in control of your own body, but make use of aptitudes and skills that are Waltz's instead of yours? If not, do you have any interest in attempting this?
I realize that this is an awful condition, and my heart goes out to you, but at the same time, it presents a wonderful opportunity and space for experimentation.[/QUOTE]
The first question has been answered before.
Waltz is much better physically than me and thinks things from a completely alien view to me. Sometimes it's beneficial, most of the time it's not. Physical skills in detail though, it uses [U]all five senses[/U] equally. I pretty much rely on sight primarily and hearing secondarily, but to Waltz feeling, hearing, smelling and seeing are all as important. Helps detect an enemy, he says.
I guess we have what you could call a truce right now. That level of co-operation that you're suggesting would only be possible if I knew I was in danger but we could survive only if we'd work together and even then I'd be the brains most of the time, meaning I'd have to let Waltz take the wheel and be a kind of an advisor. It's a great idea, but sounds way too risky for my ears.
[QUOTE=Cyrix;35056222]Mhhh, dissociative identity disorder is very interesting. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
So if there was ever something you didn't want to do could you just let him do it for you? Or did he ever do that to you? Was one of you more talented at anything?[/QUOTE]
Well, sometimes it cleaned up the house for me. The second question is answered above.
[QUOTE=tratzzz;35053987]What Waltz thinks about Kony?[/QUOTE]
Well, uh, I guess there was a thread where you could ask Waltz anything directly, but in a nutshell he thinks that everyone has their reasons and Kony has his.
[sp]She despises Kony though, because he rapes girls that aren't properly fertile, as in under 15-18 years and not too well fitted to give birth.[/sp]
[QUOTE=supersoldier58;35053205]I have a couple questions.
You said that you have tried and become fluent in lucid dreaming? If this is so have you tried asking your subconcious to supress waltz, if you already did what was the effect? I ask this because asking you sub consious to do things, usually it gives you a little helping hand as in if you asked it to have a lucid dream again, lucid dreaming becomes quite easier.
Question 2. Waltz seems violent and animal like, do you think he is just a mixture of things in your head? Like how you experienced trauma as a child, this might have acted as a catalyst to mixing maternal instinct, hormonal/sexual behavior and your own self hate at the abusive situation? Do you think this might be true?
Question 3. (Sorry if this one is complicated) Could you ever think of waltz as being a stripped down you? Like part of your brain is going through a filter that filters out morals, happiness, and things that make people funtional.
And as a part 2 to this question, do you find waltz and you to have the same core? Something thats both of you and just above brain level, for example the kernel of a computer is almost the brain, but it is not because it is not material, but informational. Do you think both of you run the same kernel, or the core you?
Last question. If you could have a controllable split personality, that you can chose to shut up if its loud or have it become company if you were lonely, you could make it do your chores and work and it lets you take everything it learned and make it become instinct. Knowing what you do now, would you want this? [sp] I would[/sp]
I realize this question is quite long but I really do appreciate it and I can will definantly wish you the best.[/QUOTE]
Didn't help jack shit, Waltz can access the deeper parts of my mind much more freely than me, meaning that asking my subconscious is as useless as asking a stone to break. My subconscious isn't against me but there's little it can do to constrain him. Waltz herself noted that my subconscious was like a bunch of snails munching on it's ankles. Annoying and left a rash, but couldn't even slow her down.
To the second question, that's how multiple personalities are born. They are basically everything your mind can not or does not want to handle, so it creates something in your head that handles it for you, albeit that's usually a very violent way. It is true and basic knowledge given to pretty much all MPD patients. I heard this back when I was diagnosed with it as well.
The third question is something I haven't thought of, but if Waltz is a stripped down me that filters out morals and "things that make people functional" (Waltz can feel happiness) then shouldn't Waltz be the core of a human being overall?
3.2: I suppose that's somewhat right as we both inhabit the same body, same brain and we share our memories since we are co-conscious. However, it remains on informational level and I can not always access Waltz as an entity or as a source of information, so I guess it's like a bridge between two kernels if anything.
For the last question, all I can say that it'd be the perfect autopilot. I'd tell it to work out for me and clean up the house as well as study, and I'd just play the three hours of the day that were free. I'd be all right with that, I guess. However, I doubt that'd ever become possible given how little we know about ourselves as a species and our mind's capacity in total.
All in all, I appreciate the questions and hope you keep them coming. These are really creative and interesting questions as they make me think a lot of things as well. I'm benefiting from this almost as much as you hopefully do.
Holy SHIT so that's why you do flesh porn?
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On a serious note though, What do you mean by "it's still in my noggin" and "unable to cause any behavioral problems to me any more". Also, do you feel some kind of sympathy towards that other personality? Did those personalities "switch"? Do you feel like you took the chance of existing from someone else who is still inside your head? Was it like you were just "passing out" while the other personality was "alive" or are my questions just like based of fiction?
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And would you harm Waltz physically if you could?
[QUOTE=proch;35063819]Holy SHIT so that's why you do flesh porn?
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On a serious note though, What do you mean by "it's still in my noggin" and "unable to cause any behavioral problems to me any more". Also, do you feel some kind of sympathy towards that other personality? Did those personalities "switch"? Do you feel like you took the chance of existing from someone else who is still inside your head? Was it like you were just "passing out" while the other personality was "alive" or are my questions just like based of fiction?
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And would you harm Waltz physically if you could?[/QUOTE]
You can read the thread and get answers for p. much every single question there.
Waltz would probably beat the living fuck out of me metaphorically speaking.
And no, I do flesh porn because barbs and animals go together like bread and butter.
That and I get bored easily.
That whole thing came out of a sudden. I didn't saw this thread back when It was made, I just first discovered it. I really wouldn't notice, in the Stalker thread you always were the regular nice Stalker humorously writing stories. You have my condolences, for your trauma, and for Waltz existing. I hope you'll get rid of him soon.
How does Waltz respond (if he does) when People are making fun out of him or insulting him?
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Would it be possible to "surgically" remove Waltz?
Could you say it's "safe", as in, is there a chance of Waltz breaking loose randomly?
Does Waltz like to have the leading hand?
Would you rather get rid of Waltz, but have the depressed one back? Or was the depressed one more of a burden than Waltz?
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Sorry if I ask too much, but psychology and the human mind is really fascinating for me.
Oh, and what does Waltz think about Nazis :v:
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Also, there's a good question you forgot to answer (or I am blind)
[QUOTE]How did Waltz react to him(the depressed one) going if not with fear?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE='[Green];34634937']They put you in an asylum for having homicidal plans.[/QUOTE]
Does having a plan but not necessarily fulfilling it count?
[QUOTE=proch;35064067]That whole thing came out of a sudden. I didn't saw this thread back when It was made, I just first discovered it. I really wouldn't notice, in the Stalker thread you always were the regular nice Stalker humorously writing stories. You have my condolences, for your trauma, and for Waltz existing. I hope you'll get rid of him soon.
How does Waltz respond (if he does) when People are making fun out of him or insulting him?[/QUOTE]
Usually laughs at them and calls them insecure or tries to kill them. Depends on how big of an insult it was.
[quote]Would it be possible to "surgically" remove Waltz?[/quote]
I'm 99.9% sure that it's impossible.
[quote]Could you say it's "safe", as in, is there a chance of Waltz breaking loose randomly?[/quote]
There's always the chance. I don't like to think about it much.
[quote]Does Waltz like to have the leading hand?[/quote]
Yep.
[quote]Would you rather get rid of Waltz, but have the depressed one back? Or was the depressed one more of a burden than Waltz?[/quote]
I'd definitely keep Waltz over the depressing fuck. At least Waltz keeps me moving, the depressing one made me struggle to lift a finger, literally.
[quote]Sorry if I ask too much, but psychology and the human mind is really fascinating for me.[/quote]
Hey, it's all right since we're all humans here. It's normal to be interested in this kind of stuff, it could happen to anyone.
[quote]Oh, and what does Waltz think about Nazis :v:[/quote]
That they "did the right things for the wrong reasons."
[quote]Also, there's a good question you forgot to answer (or I am blind)[/quote]
It refuses to talk about anything involving the depressive personality as if it never existed. I think it knows a lot more about it than I do, but I haven't been able to extract one word regarding their mutual bond assuming they even knew about each other.
[quote]Does having a plan but not necessarily fulfilling it count?[/QUOTE]
No idea, but I was close due to other factors adding up to them.
[QUOTE='[Green];35063617']No. Why would I ever want that to happen? That's horrible.
Seriously, what is wrong with you? Do you have any idea how many would get hurt if Waltz was just given free hands?
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Well I'd imagine that keeping Waltz back all the time from taking your body over would be at times exhausting and tiring, but I see how giving up on that would be very selfish.
ok so i used to work with a truck driver (i was a mechanic for the company) that had mpd, and his "brother" and him were named dearal. one was a truck driver and the other was an fbi achent. this guy was pretty fare out there so im just wondering if you had any thing like that, dos your other have a sepret life from you or is he just there and anoying.
{oh and we fired that guy pretty fast, dareal wasnt a very good drive and broke things to offtin}
(edit) and another more game related thing, (realy havnt seen very musch of that on here, when your playing...sssssaaayyy skyrim, do u ever do something to please her, just to shut her up. like go on a random kill rampage for no reasion. and do you find yourself ever takeing advise from her wile playing a game, like if ur playing, again skyrim, and ur doing a dark brother hood quest, do u lisstin to her if she tells you the best way to kill said target from a stealthy stratigic view point.
one last one, dos she ever bitch about the way u did something in a game, or say the way u made your charicter look.
Of the people you've told about having MPD, how many have just dismissed it and thought you were making it all up?
Cause it seems like a pickle - nobody else can see or hear your other personality directly - the closest approximation would be to give it control for a minute, and that obviously wouldn't end well.
Since he relies on his senses more, how do you think Waltz would react to you having to get glasses? Even more, if he was his own, what would he think if he knew that he had to rely on a doctor to get a new pair every year. He would still be able to see, but not make out details at distance.
[QUOTE=Shock_Coil;35073013]Since he relies on his senses more, how do you think Waltz would react to you having to get glasses? Even more, if he was his own, what would he think if he knew that he had to rely on a doctor to get a new pair every year. He would still be able to see, but not make out details at distance.[/QUOTE]
Never thought about that, but I guess I'd be more troubled about it than he would.
[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;35068889]Of the people you've told about having MPD, how many have just dismissed it and thought you were making it all up?
Cause it seems like a pickle - nobody else can see or hear your other personality directly - the closest approximation would be to give it control for a minute, and that obviously wouldn't end well.[/QUOTE]
I'm usually pretty honest when I talk about things of this magnitude, so if I was telling my friend about this, he/she'd take it seriously as well.
[QUOTE=dax364;35068317]ok so i used to work with a truck driver (i was a mechanic for the company) that had mpd, and his "brother" and him were named dearal. one was a truck driver and the other was an fbi achent. this guy was pretty fare out there so im just wondering if you had any thing like that, dos your other have a sepret life from you or is he just there and anoying.[/quote]
No, we have pretty much the same life, albeit different interests. We know what our name is in the society and where we live and what our status is as a citizen. Waltz is also a student, albeit a mentally unstable student.
[quote](edit) and another more game related thing, (realy havnt seen very musch of that on here, when your playing...sssssaaayyy skyrim, do u ever do something to please her, just to shut her up. like go on a random kill rampage for no reasion. and do you find yourself ever takeing advise from her wile playing a game, like if ur playing, again skyrim, and ur doing a dark brother hood quest, do u lisstin to her if she tells you the best way to kill said target from a stealthy stratigic view point.[/quote]
Argh, make it stop.
Funnily enough, I let Waltz play Skyrim since I figured games like that where you can create your won character and make choices p. much everywhere would fit it pretty well.
Turns out it didn't, Waltz kept dying after 10 minutes because Riverwood's NPC's couldn't all be killed and she attacked them on sight.
Now that it knows what it can do and what not, it's gotten to level 31 and keeps raiding any cave it can find just to kill, it doesn't even pick up any gold. He picked a two-handed Orc.
[quote]one last one, dos she ever bitch about the way u did something in a game, or say the way u made your charicter look.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, sometimes makes a remark how my character looks like a metrosexual faggot or something like that, but most of the time how I run away from a fight to heal or take a more stealthy approach to a situation. It prefers charging head-on with the biggest blade it can find.
You have some good questions, but...sorry, my inner grammar nazi activates and my eyes cringe at your post. However, I was always more than happy to answer your questions!
Thank you for your answers, Green :smile:
[QUOTE=proch;35075483]Thank you for your answers, Waltz :smile:[/QUOTE]
fixed.
[QUOTE=fritzel;35075521]fixed.[/QUOTE]
You're not being too original with that and I made another thread for that bullshit. I'm here to answer your questions, no-one else.
[QUOTE='[Green];35075237']
You have some good questions, but...sorry, my inner grammar nazi activates and my eyes cringe at your post. However, I was always more than happy to answer your questions![/QUOTE]
sorry, im rather dislecsic, but i do try to sound at least some what legible, oddly it never happens when im speaking or even when im presenting a huge speech. just when im typing something
Hey Green, how do you ask Waltz questions? Do you do it in your head or say them out loud or what?
Do you have conversations with Waltz?
In his head, although he sometimes sais things out loud, not on purpose, and Waltz usually doesn't have anything interesting to say.
Guessing this is on page 2 or so, getting links to those posts in a moment.
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[url]http://facepunch.com/threads/1159969?p=34506682&viewfull=1#post34506682[/url]
[QUOTE=someone]hey, does it speak to you like in words or is she,he,it talking to you with feelings/emotions or both?
Because when i was younger i had horrible thoughts i could control but they where really scary. like if you walk on a bridge and you feel an urge to throw your cell phone in the water. but these feelings was about hurting some one close to me it tended to come at random times. one time when i was young my friend was over and we where playing some tv games and suddenly i just got that feeling so i would lock my self in the bathroom for a while so it would go away.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE='[green]']It's both. If either of us is having an extremely strong emotional experience it inevitably affects the other one. It has to be a fairly strong state, though.[/QUOTE]
EDIT: Ignore the dumb rating, it's just a dumass who keeps following me and rating me dumb where I go.
[QUOTE=eternalflamez;35082012]In his head, although he sometimes sais things out loud, not on purpose, and Waltz usually doesn't have anything interesting to say.
Guessing this is on page 2 or so, getting links to those posts in a moment.
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[url]http://facepunch.com/threads/1159969?p=34506682&viewfull=1#post34506682[/url][/QUOTE]
Cheers for taking over, Flamez. Really couldn't be assed to tell people ever second page to read the thread.
[QUOTE=eternalflamez;35082012]In his head, although he sometimes sais things out loud, not on purpose, and Waltz usually doesn't have anything interesting to say.
Guessing this is on page 2 or so, getting links to those posts in a moment.
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[url]http://facepunch.com/threads/1159969?p=34506682&viewfull=1#post34506682[/url]
EDIT: Ignore the dumb rating, it's just a dumass who keeps following me and rating me dumb where I go.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, but this doesn't really answer my second question for Green. I'd like to hear what Green personally has to say.
EDIT: and I did read the thread btw. I just missed that question and answer.
[QUOTE=Disotrtion;35082210]Thanks, but this doesn't really answer my second question for Green. I'd like to hear what Green personally has to say.
EDIT: and I did read the thread btw. I just missed that question and answer.[/QUOTE]
If you'd read through the thread you would get a pretty solid answer.
Maybe the depressed one figuratively killed itself. But have you ever thought ending it all in a state where you both are not in control and are in the void you described. Y'know, in a big epic battle with lasers and dinosaurs and Robotpirateninjas? But in all seriousness, that might help a lot.
Or you could mentally maim it.
Oh, and explosions.:v:
Would Waltz destroy your spot in the brain for more control if it could?
I find it odd that Waltz considers you to be beta and itself to be alpha, when obviously that's not the case if you can control it to a decent extent. Also it's interesting how Waltz seems so instinctive/primal, yet has a female form which appears to be more dominant than the male version.
[QUOTE=Assmunch;35090477]I find it odd that Waltz considers you to be beta and itself to be alpha, when obviously that's not the case if you can control it to a decent extent. Also it's interesting how Waltz seems so instinctive/primal, yet has a female form which appears to be more dominant than the male version.[/QUOTE]
I just take it as trash talk, but you make an interesting point. I'm fairly traditional myself, but Waltz takes it to the extreme. I don't want to live on the stone age, but she'd fit right in. Just give her a neardenthal cock-
Ow, now it gave me a headache. Not cool.
[QUOTE=Kalan Yamato;35085550]Would Waltz destroy your spot in the brain for more control if it could?[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly sure we're in the same part of the brain, whichever it is containing personalities.
[QUOTE=Al Bundy;35082580]Maybe the depressed one figuratively killed itself. But have you ever thought ending it all in a state where you both are not in control and are in the void you described. Y'know, in a big epic battle with lasers and dinosaurs and Robotpirateninjas? But in all seriousness, that might help a lot.
Or you could mentally maim it.
Oh, and explosions.:v:[/QUOTE]
Only time I can do this the way you describe it is in lucid dreams. If I did that awake...I don't know if it's even possible.
Also that's an interesting theory of the depressed personality, but I don't think it's true. Would be hilarious, though :v:
[QUOTE=Disotrtion;35081977]Hey Green, how do you ask Waltz questions? Do you do it in your head or say them out loud or what?
Do you have conversations with Waltz?[/QUOTE]
Conversation is the wrong word. Try competitive shouting or pointless arguing and...yeah, pretty much. The only time we actually converse with each other is when we're between two fires figuratively speaking.
[QUOTE=dax364;35081111]sorry, im rather dislecsic, but i do try to sound at least some what legible, oddly it never happens when im speaking or even when im presenting a huge speech. just when im typing something[/QUOTE]
Oh, I'm really sorry then. I figured you were just a 12-year old who drank too many energy drinks. I feel bad now that I know you couldn't help it much. :smith:
What would happen if you gave Waltz control over your body for a short amout of time so she could write something to us? Would she actually do it like she's also running for "your" trains or would she leave the PC without further notice?
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[QUOTE='[Green];34634477']I freaked out. I thought I had gone completely dark side and nuts six times 'till Sunday. I overreacted like any legit 13-year old would've done.[/QUOTE]
Also, could you please tell us more about that experience? Did it deel differently than it feels now? What was Waltz' first action? What caused it? How did it feel to Waltz? Am I asking too many questions?
[QUOTE=TheFreal11;35107860]What would happen if you gave Waltz control over your body for a short amout of time so she could write something to us? Would she actually do it like she's also running for "your" trains or would she leave the PC without further notice?
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Also, could you please tell us more about that experience? Did it deel differently than it feels now? What was Waltz' first action? What caused it? How did it feel to Waltz? Am I asking too many questions?[/QUOTE]
There's another thread for asking questions from Waltz directly and as long as I'm not threatened with a knife, I can pull his ass back right in if it tries anything I don't want it to.
It felt different than it does now. It was caused by marijuana. You are not asking too many questions.
Oh and Waltz punched a guy that had bullied me for a long time in the 7th grade. Granted, I got a black eye but he left me alone, for better or worse.
So you're saying that first appearance of Waltz was when you were under marijuana?
[QUOTE='[Green];35108624']There's another thread for asking questions from Waltz directly[/QUOTE]
Already read that a few times, but haven't found it anywhere.
[QUOTE=Igoreso.spb;35108804]So you're saying that first appearance of Waltz was when you were under marijuana?[/QUOTE]
Yep, but it stuck even after the effects went away and that was over two years ago. I severely doubt one joint caused any brain damage if that's what you're suggesting. My guess is that marijuana or alcohol would've both done the trick: lower my social restrictions and get it free.
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[QUOTE=TheFreal11;35109117]Already read that a few times, but haven't found it anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Then go and ask.
Thanks for the explanation, I just wasn't sure if I understood you right.
And no, I wasn't suggesting that, since I know the effects.
But that's still interesting how it appeared almost suddenly.
[I]Fuck[/I], that's all is very interesting.
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