Octopus unties 3 cable ties and steals food from researchers.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62TXXnFf3LY&feature=related[/media]
[editline]7th October 2012[/editline]
[i]While holding a shark by its tail.[/i]
[QUOTE=Turnips5;37873793]I still have those thoughts but have pretty much come to terms with the facts that:
1) they're not hugely useful questions
2) almost everyone formulates them in the same way
3) they're almost certainly never going to be answered[/QUOTE]
I did deal with these a lot, but I find it a lot easier to deal with when I just think of "myself" as wetware and neural software.
[QUOTE=John Egbert;37945710]Holy shit, he's got balls.[/QUOTE]
Or no brain
I would wear a cape, just incase I fell.
[QUOTE=OwnedByTheDog;37945439][IMG]http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/pro_climbing.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
i am sure that i see this guy in a video, but don't remember where
EDIT: sweet, pageking and i don't have content :(
[QUOTE=enricociccio;37951190]i am sure that i see this guy in a video, but don't remember where[/QUOTE]
i think i saw him in a video about all kindsa weird things that happen/people do in russia
was doing pull-ups in that orange radio mast
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/XAUiA.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Hell0;37960073]Too long; did not quote[/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing. That was awesome.
[QUOTE=Hell0;37960073]Programmer story[/QUOTE]
Wow... that was... Holy shit...
[QUOTE=Hell0;37960073]Programmer story.[/QUOTE]
You know, I wonder where this came from. It sounds awefully close to "Mogworld", although in a much more philosophical way.
That said, I seriously start wondering whether (or when) we'll be able to create such a "simulation".
If you're not gonna bother reading it then why bother making a pointless post informing people you lack the attention span to do so?
I started reading it, then skipped to the end to make sure it wasn't some lame joke.
It's not a joke, but it's completely bogus. I didn't read the whole thing, so I don't know if it's even trying to pass for a real story, but seriously? You expect me to believe that some barely-competent programmer *accidentally* invents not just strong AI, but an entire society of strong AIs, and does it on a commodity PC? When it takes a building-sized supercomputer programmed by veritable hordes of professionals to barely manage to answer Jeopardy questions properly?
[QUOTE=gman003-main;37963265]I started reading it, then skipped to the end to make sure it wasn't some lame joke.
It's not a joke, but it's completely bogus. I didn't read the whole thing, so I don't know if it's even trying to pass for a real story, but seriously? You expect me to believe that some barely-competent programmer *accidentally* invents not just strong AI, but an entire society of strong AIs, and does it on a commodity PC? When it takes a building-sized supercomputer programmed by veritable hordes of professionals to barely manage to answer Jeopardy questions properly?[/QUOTE]
That bugged me as well, but if one assumes its fiction and nothing more it's quite beautiful.
[QUOTE=gman003-main;37963265]I started reading it, then skipped to the end to make sure it wasn't some lame joke.
It's not a joke, but it's completely bogus. I didn't read the whole thing, so I don't know if it's even trying to pass for a real story, but seriously? You expect me to believe that some barely-competent programmer *accidentally* invents not just strong AI, but an entire society of strong AIs, and does it on a commodity PC? When it takes a building-sized supercomputer programmed by veritable hordes of professionals to barely manage to answer Jeopardy questions properly?[/QUOTE]
By the looks of the story, he didn't create the AI, he created the first cells that evolved into plants and animals, that involved into intelligent beings, But you're right in the sense a simulation like that would take a very long time.
[QUOTE=LegoGuy;37965387]By the looks of the story, he didn't create the AI, he created the first cells that evolved into plants and animals, that involved into intelligent beings, But you're right in the sense a simulation like that would take a very long time.[/QUOTE]
The method doesn't matter - most current AI experiments involve "evolving" an AI from less complex subroutines, using self-modifying code. The end result seemed to be an AI that's more intelligent and sentient than many of the people I know.
And if he did it by doing physical simulations? Shit, that would be impossible for freaking *supercomputers*. Right now, we can just about simulate a rat's brain neuron-for-neuron, at less than real time. The sheer amount of memory involved... you'd need terabytes, petabytes even, of RAM. That's not something you can cleverly code around - that's a hard physical limitation. Even if he handwaved that away somewhere in the story, there's still the fact that if he'd done it, they'd be inventing new awards just to give the guy, and everyone, *especially* I, would know about it.
Maybe I'm just being too bitchy about this. I never did like those "what if we're gods to another universe?" stories.
It's just a well written short story. But even that sentence belittles it. I blame your expectations, you shouldn't have to say "[B]just[/B] a well written short story"
[QUOTE=jaykray;37965609]It's just a well written short story.[/QUOTE]
You may think that. But I don't. Yeah, the writing is decent, but the actual story is just full of crap.
It took me many times to actually make it through it, because it just kept breaking my suspension of disbelief. It doesn't even try to wave away any of the myriad reasons it's impossible. There's no explanation, or even acknowledgement that such a problem exists followed by some handwave.
I mean, I'm not normally a guy to get caught up on details like that. I watch the original Star Trek series, for crying out loud - as long as you do *something* to explain away the impossible, or keep it as a minor point you don't notice until later, I can deal with it. How do the teleporters get around the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle? Technobabble! How does the universal translator work? Pretty well, apparently, because the plot keeps moving forward! But here, the technical problems are right there, in your face, as the primary plot, and there's not even a wave of the hands as to how one mediocre programmer with no experience in AI or even simulations in general, running on a standard desktop, is able to *accidentally* create something millions of times more complex than what we can do with a small army of the best programmers on the planet and a supercomputer big enough to need its own power plant.
That, and I *always* found this subgenre of "human(ity) becomes a god(s) to a simulated reality" to be trite and full of fake depth. And this one exemplifies why - it goes straight for the Jesus mimicry (again with no explanation as to why), then goes straight from "we made contact with god" to "nihilistic sui-genocide" - and nihilism, suicide and genocide are pretty much the lazy writer's ways to add fake philosophical depth. It makes vague allusions to real-life religion, then fails to impart any actual insights on them. It pretends to have meaning that I could not find in it.
And that's why I don't like it.
It's a short story! It's not meant to be over analysed like that.
[QUOTE=jaykray;37965935]It's a short story! It's not meant to be over analysed like that.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't even *trying* to analyze it. It just kept flaunting its flaws right in front of me - I could barely *ignore* it. Suspension of disbelief is primarily a subconscious thing - and when you portray programming so wrong my *subconscious* picks up on it, you're doing something horribly, horribly wrong.
I will speak no more of this. You are entitled to your opinion, as I am entitled to mine, and it seems obvious we're never going to convince each other of anything.
we should post some PICTURES maybe.
[QUOTE=Adelle Zhu;37966136]we should post some PICTURES maybe.[/QUOTE]
Lead by EXAMPLE maybe
Okay, here's something:
[img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3tlf82_FKGE/UGvwJifnJ-I/AAAAAAAAHbc/4UY_f59E8nE/s0/IC1396_animation2.gif[/img]
That's a nebula. In (fake) 3D. The nebula, IC 1396, is real ([url=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cun-kw-L2j8/UGv1eZl2UfI/AAAAAAAAHbw/WfVt1s5Zbo0/s640/IC1396Natural.jpg]original photo[/url]), and the 3D effect is a best-guess at what the structure is, given what we know. But it's rather hard to get a second perspective to do true 3D when it's roughly six thousand light years away.
Space is fucking awesome.
I wonder what the universe looks like from a world inside there.
wobbly
[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;37909438]I've seen someone play this game. It looks like a torture device for your reflexes.[/QUOTE]
Bullet hell games is a game where you have to stop your reflexes, and pretty much go by memory.
[QUOTE=Hell0;37960073][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/XAUiA.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
physics is complex mathematics
lol
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