[QUOTE=Oecleus;22785770]If I said "you have been shitposting" you didn't shit post once, you have continued to shitpost in the past.[/QUOTE]
How the fuck did you know I was going to read that?
I love facepunch.
[QUOTE=c-unit;22785061]What about .9 = 1? 1/3 = .33 2/3 = .66 3/3 = .99. Any fraction that's numerator is same as the denominator, is always 1.
So in theory wouldn't .9 = 1? xD Freshman math class FTW[/QUOTE]
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/999_Perspective.png[/img]
I believe this settles your problem.
[QUOTE=EvilZx;22785460]I have 9 eggs. I separate them into three piles. 9/3 Holy crap I have three groups.
I have 9 eggs. I seperate them into zero piles. 9/0 Holy crap I have infinity groups.[/QUOTE]
Not how it works.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22786068]Not how it works.[/QUOTE]
Pretty positive that was sarcasm.
I can't honestly make heads or tails of his point in that post tbh so I was just commenting on what I read
x/0.0...1 approaches infinity. It is not infinity.
x/0 cannot happen.
x/0 is only said to approach infinity if you look at as a limit, which is what the first line of my reply is.
lim x->0 (1/x) = infinity
It's positive or negative infinity based on which side you're applying the limit.
facepunch really like this discussion, it's like the 4th or 5th thread I see about the subject...
anyway lim x->0 1/x = infinity, but 1/0 can't be calculated, hence not possible. Also infinity is not a number, it's a limit. (or if you like, more like a concept created by people to understand some things and make some calculus and shit possible)
basically the ninja above me said it all.
[QUOTE=Oecleus;22785591]lol
Edit: I have zero dollars in my pocket. I divide that money into 5 equal parts. I now have infinite money in each of those 5 groups.[/QUOTE]
i kno rite
Throw the left- and right-hand limits in there if you wanna be rigorous about it
lim x->0+ (1/x) = infinity and
lim x->0- (1/x) = -infinity
Infinity is a concept not a number.
You can't produce a concept by fiddling with numbers.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22786068]Not how it works.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it was very very deep sarcasm.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;22786228]x/0.0...1 approaches infinity. It is not infinity.
x/0 cannot happen.[/QUOTE]
It makes no sense that x/0.0...1 approaches infinity but isn't infinity, because you cannot approach an infinite number, it either goes on forever or it doesn't. You cannot get "closer" to an infinite number. 1 is just as close to infinity as 2 is.
That post doesn't make sense at all because 0.0...01 = 0
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22786426]That post doesn't make sense at all because 0.0...01 = 0[/QUOTE]
So can you divide by x/0.0...1 or not? To me it makes sense that you can divide by an infinismal factor, you would just get an infinitely large answer.
That's not an infinitesimal, though. It's just 0. In the same way that .999... = 1, 0.0...01 = 0. And since you can't divide by zero, you can't divide by that.
what's 0/0?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22786510]That's not an infinitesimal, though. It's just 0. In the same way that .999... = 1, 0.0...01 = 0. And since you can't divide by zero, you can't divide by that.[/QUOTE]
It may sound to you like i'm just trying to argue, but i'm not, im trying to get a better understanding of this, so bare with me when I ask you why 0.0...1 equals 0? I understand that the whole 1/3 + 2/3 = therefore .9999=1, but I don't see the analogy between .999999999 and 0.0..1
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[QUOTE=ButtsexV2;22786561]what's 0/0?[/QUOTE]
undefined.
I know you're not just trying to argue. I can tell.
But 0.0...01 is really not a number to begin with since it essentially says that there's a one after an infinite number of zeros, which makes absolutely no sense.
Buy the book "Zero: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea" by Charles Seife.
When you have huge numbers, round. Problem solved.
I'm considering making a mathematics thread in GD so I can educate Facepunch on the topic because every time a math thread shows up it seems like I'm the only person who actually knows what he's talking about.
I've helped with some math threads before. :saddowns:
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22786659]I'm considering making a mathematics thread in GD so I can educate Facepunch on the topic because every time a math thread shows up it seems like I'm the only person who actually knows what he's talking about.[/QUOTE]
I'd like you to.
But can you answer my question of why 0.0...1=0?
[QUOTE=Oecleus;22786685]I'd like you to.
But can you answer my question of why 0.0...1=0?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22786617]I know you're not just trying to argue. I can tell.
But 0.0...01 is really not a number to begin with since it essentially says that there's a one after an infinite number of zeros, which makes absolutely no sense.[/QUOTE]
Technically it's not anything. It's an improper way to write a number, but if anything, 1 - .999... = .0...01 but since .999... = 1, .0...01 = 0.
Because it's so unbelievably small, and close to nothing, it's neglectable, just round in these situations.
Or what Johnny said.
[QUOTE=EvilZx;22786766]Because it's so unbelievably small, and close to nothing, it's neglectable, just round in these situations.
Or what Johnny said.[/QUOTE]
You don't even need to round. (And you shouldn't be since this is really an argument about the exact value of the number.)
[QUOTE=Oecleus;22786564]undefined.[/QUOTE]
no you're wrong and fat
I think you've answered all my questions, but it still makes sense to me that 1/0.0..1 would be approaching infinity or be equal to infinity because the as the denomater gets smaller and smaller the output gets larger and larger, even though I realize that you cannot divide by zero.
[IMG]http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4681/idean.png[/IMG]
Ya. Like, in banking, your balance can be -$300, but if you look in the bank, you don't have 300-NOT-DOLLARS. There is no money there, only the situation in which you owe the bank $300. It's still -$300, but you don't have 300 inverted dollars.
Infinity isn't a number, it's an idea. Like the above metaphor.
Bam
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