Unpopular Opinions V5: "I still don't like Half Life 2."
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I think VR is going to be so monumental that it will briefly revive the arcade
I'd like to hear why you think that is.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;49501508]I'd like to hear why you think that is.[/QUOTE]
Because it is an incredibly compelling experience that requires expensive hardware, that cannot otherwise be simulated.
Normal arcades don't draw anyone because everybody has a console at home. VR arcades, strategically placed in malls and popular public venues, with expensive force-feedback racing rigs and [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyJ2BC3-v3Y]motherfucking bird simulators,[/url] would be very popular until the technology arrived at a good consumer price. Just like normal video games did a few decades ago.
VR will be big on the enthusiast front, but will fail to become mainstream.
I want to be wrong about that, but I just don't see it happening.
Honestly, I think that most people that are really excited for VR have the dosh to spend on their own Rift or Vive. The way AAA games play now aren't very conducive to arcades, either. We don't really play games anymore where you advance through levels and if you lose, you start all over, and that's how arcades make money.
Not to mention that VR hardware is fragile and having public units could be very expensive, you'd have to keep replacing them. Wearing something that's been on the faces of a hundred other sweaty dudes doesn't sound appealing either. Classic arcade machines are basically indestructible.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49501638]Because it is an incredibly compelling experience that requires expensive hardware, that cannot otherwise be simulated.
Normal arcades don't draw anyone because everybody has a console at home. VR arcades, strategically places in malls and popular public venues, with expensive force-feedback racing rigs and [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyJ2BC3-v3Y]motherfucking bird simulators,[/url] would be very popular until the technology arrived at a good consumer price. Just like normal video games did a few decades ago.[/QUOTE]
i can see it as a small booth for people to kill time in at the mall but it's just too much of a novelty/gimmick to fill a whole arcade like cabinets and racing games used to. i mean at an arcade you're there to play the maximum amount of games in an afternoon, but if the focus is entirely on VR and the games themselves are just ones you can play at home then you're gonna get bored after like two visits. it just won't keep people coming back consistently for how expensive the technology is
I feel films can sometimes become way too interested in spectacle and style at the expense of pure substance in its story and script. In fact I'd argue that its one of the main motivators of having a preference of TV over film.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49501422]I think VR is going to be so monumental that it will briefly revive the arcade[/QUOTE]
I think places liked Dave n Buster's (kinda like a Chuck E. Cheeses for more than kids if you've never heard of it) could probably make good money off of a VR attraction.
[QUOTE=Rebi;49500633]Why do you think it "has to be"? Drawing absolute certain conclusions on things we have no idea of based on the relatively few things we know about the subject(The brain and how it functions to do well, everything) just leaves your mind closed to where you'd ignore evidence to the contrary if it ever was presented.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure it's not a stretch at all to affirm that something immaterial (ie that doesn't exist) can't influe on something material. If you consider even that dubious there's no point in separating true from false.
[QUOTE=_Axel;49502560]I'm pretty sure it's not a stretch at all to affirm that something immaterial (ie that doesn't exist) can't influe on something material. If you consider even that dubious there's no point in separating true from false.[/QUOTE]
Immaterial? Not necessarily, nothing to say it's merely something that modern instruments can't pick up. Though at this point, with "it not being a stretch" you're getting into rationality and reasoning to shape what you consider facts. That's fine if you're a Greek philosopher but if you're going to have the scientific paradigm consider certain things as facts then you want observations and evidence, not what just seems likely to you.
[QUOTE=Rebi;49502583]Immaterial? Not necessarily, nothing to say it's merely something that modern instruments can't pick up. Though at this point, with "it not being a stretch" you're getting into rationality and reasoning to shape what you consider facts. That's fine if you're a Greek philosopher but if you're going to have the scientific paradigm consider certain things as facts then you want observations and evidence, not what just seems likely to you.[/QUOTE]
Modern instruments may not be able to pick it up but if that were the case, why would the center of consciousness be anywhere else than inside the human body?
[QUOTE=Skyward;49497665]But I guess that means it was average enough to be forgettable[/QUOTE]
I never understood this concept of something being "forgettable". I wouldn't be able to tell you specifics about a movie unless I just saw it, maybe it's just because of my ADHD idk. But like, I hadn't seen Empire Strikes Back for a couple months and I forgot that there were [I]Stormtroopers[/I] on Cloud City. Like, I really doubt most people consider ESB a forgettable movie. I just think that's a bad metric.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;49498998]Episode I is watchable. Episode III is close to being good.
But Episode II really bores me to death. I guess there's a few decent action sequences in there but there's so much bad dialogue, forced romance and shitty plot in between. The film doesn't do its job of showing the friendship between Anakin and Obi-Wan, nor does it show the beginning of Anakin's descent to the Dark Side (yeah he kills a bunch of sand people but then things are instantly back to normal for some reason) which forces Episode III to have him go from good guy to murdering children in the span of like one and a half hour.
Also the C3PO comic relief in that film is honestly worse than Jar-Jar.[/QUOTE]
If I were to redo the prequels, I'd start with the concept of Episode 2 (Turn it into the first of the prequels. Perhaps have the Clone Wars start much earlier in the film, without the Bounty Hunter/Detective Movie BS. Actually show Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship. Establish he falls for a senator from some planet aka padme after saving her). Then have a 2nd movie fill in between that and the time frame 3 takes place in. Establish that the war is brutal, not really favorable, but Palpatine keeps pushing to fight more, show Anakin actually start to go down the darkside, he starts drifting from Obi-Wan and gravitating to Padme. Episode 3 would be the same basic concept as the Episode 3 we have, except changed to fit in with the new previous 2. Now that Anakin's fall the Dark Side has been better established in the previous film (not just one scene where he kills Tusken Raiders), what happens in regards to Order 66 and whatnot is not nearly as jarring or seems to happen as quick. Have Padme actually die from medical complications.
idk, don't think my ideas are all that good but I think it would be better than what we have.
Gilbert Gottfried is painfully unfunny
[QUOTE=bdd458;49503179]If I were to redo the prequels, I'd start with the concept of Episode 2 (Turn it into the first of the prequels. Perhaps have the Clone Wars start much earlier in the film, without the Bounty Hunter/Detective Movie BS. Actually show Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship. Establish he falls for a senator from some planet aka padme after saving her). Then have a 2nd movie fill in between that and the time frame 3 takes place in. Establish that the war is brutal, not really favorable, but Palpatine keeps pushing to fight more, show Anakin actually start to go down the darkside, he starts drifting from Obi-Wan and gravitating to Padme. Episode 3 would be the same basic concept as the Episode 3 we have, except changed to fit in with the new previous 2. Now that Anakin's fall the Dark Side has been better established in the previous film (not just one scene where he kills Tusken Raiders), what happens in regards to Order 66 and whatnot is not nearly as jarring or seems to happen as quick. Have Padme actually die from medical complications.
idk, don't think my ideas are all that good but I think it would be better than what we have.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Having a movie about kid Anakin is pretty useless, it just leaves less room for the more important stuff. And it feels disconnected from the rest of the trilogy.
The Clone Wars could've been the second film, and the Phantom Menace could've been the animated series. Would've made more sense.
Lee Evans is not a funny comedian in the slightest, he just sweats and prances around a stage looking like a twat. Basically slapstick humor.
Valve is an incompetent, awful company that gets by by hiding behind a shield of consumer goodwill and fanboys that, to paraphrase someone, allows them to get away with running their company as though it were a lemonade stand. Their actions can have serious consequences that get shrugged off because it's Valve and their fanboys have humanized them too much.
I think the good they do the gaming industry in general, especially PC gaming, and gaming as an art form is now far outweighed by the bad and I hope one day they're forced to either improve or shut down. I'm glad this opinion is getting less and less unpopular the more they fuck up.
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also I do not consider them a game developer, in the sense that you don't call Mick Foley an author even though he wrote books because he's a wrestler first and foremost, and Valve is first and foremost a digital distribution games retailer
I think the 'refugee crisis' could have been avoided if the governments of those countries affected did more preparation and did so earlier. I really think it's a sign of their incompetence because it's not like the refugees came out of the fucking blue or anything.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;49506615]Valve is an incompetent, awful company that gets by by hiding behind a shield of consumer goodwill and fanboys that, to paraphrase someone, allows them to get away with running their company as though it were a lemonade stand. Their actions can have serious consequences that get shrugged off because it's Valve and their fanboys have humanized them too much.
I think the good they do the gaming industry in general, especially PC gaming, and gaming as an art form is now far outweighed by the bad and I hope one day they're forced to either improve or shut down. I'm glad this opinion is getting less and less unpopular the more they fuck up.
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also I do not consider them a game developer, in the sense that you don't call Mick Foley an author even though he wrote books because he's a wrestler first and foremost, and Valve is first and foremost a digital distribution games retailer[/QUOTE]
I really hope valve does that split they once talked about, where it turns into one company that manages steam, and another that actually makes, you know, games. Though I doubt even with that that we'd be getting more good games with singleplayer from them, they've evidently set ship in the esports direction.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49506746]I really hope valve does that split they once talked about, where it turns into one company that manages steam, and another that actually makes, you know, games. Though I doubt even with that that we'd be getting more good games with singleplayer from them, they've evidently set ship in the esports direction.[/QUOTE]
It'd be sweet if Valve split into Valve and Faucet, with Valve controlling Steam of course.
i don't care about titties as much as anyone else does. now some fine pussy, on the other hand...
I consider gaming an art form but I hold the artistry pretty much as high as I do the entertainment value
I don't think Jim Carey is funny at all
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Or will Ferrell
Leafy is a terrible youtuber
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;49506615]
also I do not consider them a game developer, in the sense that you don't call Mick Foley an author even though he wrote books because he's a wrestler first and foremost, and Valve is first and foremost a digital distribution games retailer[/QUOTE]
Except Valve made games before they made steam.
Well then, they were once, but not any longer.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;49508463]Well then, they were once, but not any longer.[/QUOTE]
but they still make games, it's just that they're more focused on distribution more now
They don't make games, they maintain their current ones.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;49506615]
also I do not consider them a game developer, in the sense that you don't call Mick Foley an author even though he wrote books because he's a wrestler first and foremost, and Valve is first and foremost a digital distribution games retailer[/QUOTE]
you can be more than one thing at once
you can be a developer and a distributor
you can be a wrestler and an author
It's a shit analogy tbh
I think people are giving Valve too much shit for not making games
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