• Unpopular Opinions V5: "I still don't like Half Life 2."
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I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the concept that we shouldn't try and help people get better, but ok whatever
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;49826616]I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the concept that we shouldn't try and help people get better, but ok whatever[/QUOTE] How do you help them get better? You don't just say "psychology", because not even psychologists can address the problem. If you wanna help, fund mental health research, but keeping them alive with the expectation that they will be fixed just to justify to yourself that you "tried" isn't doing anything. It's just moral convenience for you as opposed to a realistic goal for everyone.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49825891]Nah, it means society can have less loss of life if it's possible to reintegrate them[/QUOTE] There are some things you just don't get a second chance at. Society has some basic rules that you don't get a second chance for redemption such as don't organize a genocide, don't torture people to death, and don't mass shoot a bunch of people. Even still, if that person is released back into society you know there's a good lump of people who'd actively want him dead anyway. It's in the best intent for both parties that that person doesn't ever get the privilege to interact with people again.
Humanity is not above biology. It affects our culture, economy and us as individuals.
Is that an unpopular opinion? I'm not being contrary, I'm curious, what do people commonly say that contradicts that?
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49827312]Humanity is not above biology. It affects our culture, economy and us as individuals.[/QUOTE] We must replace humanity with AI.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;49827347]Is that an unpopular opinion? I'm not being contrary, I'm curious, what do people commonly say that contradicts that?[/QUOTE] Not gonna look for it but people always get angry about "lol biotruths".
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49827434]Not gonna look for it but people always get angry about "lol biotruths".[/QUOTE] Leave it to you to completely and utterly misunderstand what's actually being said "biotruths" relates to how some people will say that we should ignore problems because "it's just nature" it's "natural" that men are stronger than women, therefore, we shouldn't try and accept strong women it's "natural" to have sex with children, therefore, the age of consent is too high (I know what you're going to say, "oh but 18 [I]is[/I] too high", and I agree that 16 is more reasonable, but there are people who argue for younger)
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49827312]Humanity is not above biology. It affects our culture, economy and us as individuals.[/QUOTE] Stealth feminism-hate ranger post #251
[QUOTE=GarbageCan;49827941]Stealth feminism-hate ranger post #251[/QUOTE]I'm not a fan of rangergxi's posting style but that is a stretch. [editline]27th February 2016[/editline] I actually agree with ranger's post taken at face value, I'm not going to bother myself with whatever intentions are behind it.
VAC does make mistakes. Parroting statements from Valve about how it never makes mistakes is just being dumb.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49826502]why? so we can have 320,000,001 precious Americans instead of 320,000,000? I cannot think of anyone who would deserve or require permanent quiet imprisonment more than someone who is willing to destroy multiple lives for a petty emotional agenda. There is no purpose (other than patting ourselves on the back about how jesus-like we are) in trying to bend these people back into shape; they will never contribute meaningfully to society in a way that outweighs their crimes.[/QUOTE] It isn't just one person. At this point, I'm not even talking about just mass shooters. If our mental health and prison system wasn't so damn shit, at least half of those killers, dealers, and robbers could be rehabilitated and productive members of society. Of course this doesn't redeem in any way, but that's not what the goal is.
[QUOTE=Blazedol;49828648]It isn't just one person. At this point, I'm not even talking about just mass shooters.[/QUOTE] well, you never indicated that. [quote]at least half of those killers, dealers, and robbers could be rehabilitated and productive members of society.[/quote] "at least half"? where in the world did you get that estimate? I appreciate the optimism but I think you're a little naive. Many people in the prison system are exactly where they belong.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49828798]well, you never indicated that. [/quote] Apologies. [Quote]"at least half"? where in the world did you get that estimate?[/QUOTE] I guess you can call it an uneducated guess, heh. I said that mostly in comparison with our country to ones with, what I at least consider, a better prison system. I'm not sure about the exact numbers though, so you got me there. [QUOTE]what exactly is a productive member of society?[/QUOTE] Should be obvious, someone who works for the betterment of society.
i liked antman over the deadpool movie
[QUOTE=Xubs;49823558]I really hate over-saturations of negativity, specifically hatedoms. I've frequently felt that hatedoms for certain properties often get far more out of hand and more 'in-your-face' than the fandoms do. I'd much rather people be giddy or overly excited with things even if they're cringy than be surrounded by people who spend all their days hating everything anyone likes. It makes those people who hate things come off like they have no concept of enjoyment, and seek to destroy it because they can't have it when others around them do. It's incredibly tiresome. Especially when it comes with the extra baggage of some members of said hatedom using it to inflate ones ego, since I often find that the people who form hatedoms do it to feel better or more "mature" than the people they're hating on, whilst simultaneously doing and saying things that come off rather immature for zings and laughs. In fact, I view the people who join hatedoms to be on the majority less mature than the majority of the fans that they target are.[/QUOTE] This is the first time I've heard of hatedoms and it sounds like something that would worry George Orwell.
Hatedoms have the potential to be just as bad as the fandoms they hate. There's people who take something like MLP and spend their time drawing MLP gore, trolling MLP boards, and going on youtube videos and calling people in unrelated discussions faggots because they have an MLP avatar, and they don't realize that they're straight more cancer than the fandom they hate because at least the people who obsess over a kids show are doing something constructive instead of destructive.
Not sure about the movie overall, but the second Spongebob outshined the first one in a few ways.
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;49829299]This is the first time I've heard of hatedoms and it sounds like something that would worry George Orwell.[/QUOTE] It's just a name applied to people who hate over shit that get obsessive. I mean if you've been on the internet in the past 10 years you've probably experienced several, like the people who hate furries or the people who hate bronies or the people who hate Undertale or the people who hate Steven Universe. Especially if it's perceived as being closely associated with Tumblr like Undertale. And, yeah, I'm not exactly batting for fandoms here. Fandoms are, indeed, dog shit, 100 percent of the time. Fans are prone to bullying anyone who don't agree with them, dogging the creators if they don't do what they want, drawing endless amounts of porn (which I guess is a bad thing to other people I don't really mind), and even doing bad shit in real life with real consequences, like sexually harassing cosplayers (FNAF), throwing heavy buckets at other cosplayer's heads (Homestuck), or [I]bullying someone in to attempting suicide because they drew a character 'too thin'[/I] (Steven Universe). Fandoms are generally whiny, entitled, and overall garbage. BUT, hatedoms are just as often just as annoying. They're generally made up of people who are just as whiny and even [I]more[/I] immature because they frequently have a thriving hatred for something usually despite never actually having tried it. Usually when you point out that they haven't actually played it, they'll go "yeah but fans" but as discussed, all fandoms are terrible and like everything has a fandom. Fandoms are an uncontrollable and unpredictable reaction to any given piece of media. The reaction to x doesn't make x bad. Portal is one of the most unique and interesting games out there and a ton of people think it's one of the best games ever made, but the fandom is still shit. We all get annoyed at hearing "THE CAKE IS A LIE!!" and "I'LL BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN WITH THE LEMONS" and shit. Doesn't mean Portal's bad. If fans retroactively made something bad, almost no piece of media would be good. And if you actually get them to play or watch whatever it is they hate so much, they go in to it wanting to thoroughly not enjoy it and are biased against whatever happens, they do not give it a fair chance, they nitpick everything and declare that they're done before 5 minutes has passed. This is literally how 5 year olds behave. Then they froth at the mouth frequently about how much they hate it, how much the fans are dumb, make whole videos about how dumb the fans are, go on to forums and imageboards for the fans and dump all over their interest for no reason, and spend tons of time hunting through the fandom for things to bitch about. And, again, this is frequently a person who has never actually played, watched, or listened to the thing they hate so much. Sometimes they spend more time hating it than it takes to actually try it. Like I'm sure there's people who have spent more time talking about why Undertale is garbage even though they haven't played it than it would take to [I]actually just play the fucking game the entire way through.[/I] Also, any expression of enjoyment for a given thing is too much for them and qualifies as 'shoving it down their throats', including things as minor as having an avatar...even though they constantly go on about how much they hate x and shove it down people's throats in any given thread about x. Yeah, I don't even know how else to describe this kind of shit other than immature and stupid. Scott Cawthon summed up the behavior of these people pretty well. [quote=Scott Cawthon]Here you are, of your own free will, invading a space FOR the fans, to accuse the fans of forcing you to come here.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49827434]Not gonna look for it but people always get angry about "lol biotruths".[/QUOTE] and then there's the people who simmer with anger at the thought of women being picky over men's heights, but stop at nothing to justify the media's treatment of any woman above 35 with "it's just basic biology"
I would be completely fine if the person that stole my wallet or anybody else's wallet had a hand or finger chopped off when being caught. Fuck that person. Fuck you with a hot soldering iron.
Thankfully, most societies have moved beyond that form of punishment. It's a little too barbaric and unnecessary for my tastes.
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;49829299] would worry George Orwell.[/QUOTE] Oh my god "Person with position that may or may not be official says it doesn't like thing" "OH MY GOD 1984 WE'LL HAVE NO EMOTION OR SECURITY OR PRIVACY REEEEEEEEEEEEE" I'm so fucking sick of people pretending to know what that term means
I think hatedoms are more to do with the fact that what they hate is probably intrusive to unrelated things. This applies to pretty much anything - furries, bronies, /pol/ to name a few examples of hatedom subjects. See, the problem with furries for example wasn't that they jacked off to furry shit. This is and always has been the internet - if we wanted to we're only just a few clicks away from watching big-breasted girls with twelve-inch dicks fucking eachother and everyone knows everyone else has at least one weird kink or two. It's no secret anymore - nothing's wrong with having a fetish or fascination as long as you keep it to your god damn self, but unfortunately not many subcultures have fully grasped this concept. No, the problem with furries at first was that most of them were so obnoxious about it. Everything had to be made furry in some way. Every forum avatar and signature had to be made a fursona. They just couldn't keep the fact that they were hardcore furries to themselves and had to broadcast it to everyone and their mother. Naturally when this was met with derision, they doubled down on their effort and set out to be the biggest cunts they could be about it, labelling the rational reaction to their antics as "fursecution". Now granted I would find it a little bit weird at first when grown men are watching a little girl's TV show about magical ponies and unicorns, but as long as they don't try to persecute others who don't like it or try to incorporate ponies into every other discussion about anything, I don't give a shit and I shouldn't. This is exactly why on 4chan of all places you're not allowed to post ponies anywhere but its own board, because it was just one of those things that became contagious to everything else. Not by fault of the fact that it was ponies, but because of how far bronies took their obsessions. It's not the subject itself, it's what it does to everything and everyone around them.
I'm not excited for Mafia III at all. Honestly I think it shouldn't be part of the series. I don't think it will be a bad game, but it seems it completely deviates from what the series was about. I honestly would love another 30s/40s mafia game inspired by classic movies like Once upon a time in america, the Godfather, that sorta thing. It's a shame there isn't a game like that coming out.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49830189]"OH MY GOD 1984 WE'LL HAVE NO EMOTION OR SECURITY OR PRIVACY REEEEEEEEEEEEE"[/QUOTE] God I hate when people do this. Overreacting the people that you disagree with's points.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49830189]Oh my god "Person with position that may or may not be official says it doesn't like thing" "OH MY GOD 1984 WE'LL HAVE NO EMOTION OR SECURITY OR PRIVACY REEEEEEEEEEEEE" I'm so fucking sick of people pretending to know what that term means[/QUOTE] Its not that, its that the whole thing reminds me of the Two Minutes Hate where they express their absolute revulsion at the enemies of the state.
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;49831033]Its not that, its that the whole thing reminds me of the Two Minutes Hate where they express their absolute revolution at the enemies of the state.[/QUOTE] And then there's also that whole hate week thing
[QUOTE=Genericenemy;49831033]Hate where they express their absolute revolution at the enemies of the state.[/QUOTE] do you mean revulsion
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49830189]Oh my god "Person with position that may or may not be official says it doesn't like thing" "OH MY GOD 1984 WE'LL HAVE NO EMOTION OR SECURITY OR PRIVACY REEEEEEEEEEEEE" I'm so fucking sick of people pretending to know what that term means[/QUOTE] if george orwell were alive today he would probably shoot himself from the amount of people trying to get his approval on every minute facet of their life GEORGE GEORGE SOMEONE TOLD ME THEY DIDN'T LIKE UNDERTALE ON TUMBLR AND I SCREECHED AT THEM FOR THREE HOURS DO YOU FEEL THIS ECHOES THE EVENTS OF [I]1984[/I] IN ANY WAY SO MR ORWELL WE ALL KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ON SOCIALISM BUT WHERE DO YOU STAND ON GAMERGATE GEORGE THESE OTHER PEOPLE ARE WASTING TIME PLEASE COME RUB MY BELLY AND PAT MY HEAD
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