Unpopular Opinions V5: "I still don't like Half Life 2." - General

[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49144927]I hate calling transvestites a she. You know its cool that you "gender-identify" yourself as a female, but your entire biological make up is based off your born gender. Anywhere from brain structure (besides that quip that makes you feel like a woman, but you're a dude, but you want everyone just to be oblivious to the world around them, and just call you ma'am) to bone structure, tone of the voice and the dangling thing between your legs. Tits and hormones is not what makes a woman. So when someone chastises me and tells me "She is not a he, she is a she!" I quip back with "No, he is a she". Then i get reprimanded because I find that popping some pills and springing some mosquito bite tits does not excuse you from your gender.[/QUOTE] there's so much wrong with this i'm not sure if it's worth bothering. [editline]19th November 2015[/editline] ok i'll give you one freebie biological sex ≠ gender identity

Honestly whole gender identity stuff is absurd, I mean no one is fully a male nor female if you go and look at the requirements, it is real mess. I never liked any form of self branding and it probably is what makes me really annoyed by the whole thing. Also nothing beats some amazing "SJW" coming and throwing goddamn magical identities at you because you somehow can't fill fully every impossible requirements for gender X nor Y. [editline]19th November 2015[/editline] It honestly reeks "I am different"(I mean we all are different to begin with but still) look at me.

[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49145173]I feel ya, and I don't have any qualms with the LGBT community. If they wish to go through the arduous treatment into switching their gender, then power to them. I will call them whatever gender they will identify with. But the thing that always bothers me, is not the niceties or political correct values of the situation. Its the fact that you pretty much have to do this. But this only seems to apply to their community. Say a furry walks up to you, and they align themself with a dog. Do you start barking to them? Do you refer to them as a dog? They like to think of themselves as a canine, but you know they're not. I have no problems calling them a dog, they want to be a dog. Then woof woof. If they want to be a different gender, go for it. Free country isnt it? I know this is an unpopular bit here. But how is it wrong? Why can a male be a female and viseversa. But neither one of them can be a Bovine if they wished to be species fluid?[/QUOTE] There's quite a difference between those two mate. One has the backing of the medical community as a legitimate thing one can have, and the other is an example of someone who is just a nut who has taken a passion of his to a crazy level. Therapy really doesn't work for transgender people in the same way it doesn't for gay people. And you really can't define a man or woman by use of physical characteristics that you can easily see, because there are always exceptions. Some men lose their penises in accidents, some women have their ovaries removed, and so-on. You have to rely on things such as their chromosomes which is broad af. edit: I mean heck. you provided a great example. by aiming "mosquito bite tits" and "tone of the voice" at transwomen you've said something that's incredibly hurtful to a lot of cis women, as there are many uncomfortable with their "mosquito bite tits" and their voices that they feel are too deep and not "cute" enough.

As long as I don't have to hand a new person a gender/identity resume so they know how not to offend me and vise versa then Idc

Idc, if people want me to refer to them as xir or whatever I'll just do it. It's not like it takes any kind of effort. It's like, whatever makes your goofy ass happy, dude.

[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49145173]But how is it wrong? Why can a male be a female and viseversa. But neither one of them can be a Bovine if they wished to be species fluid?[/QUOTE] The former is a recognised biological phenomenom, the latter isn't. It's generally agreed upon that allowing someone to transition is the best solution to allow them to live a healthy and happy life. [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22051008[/url] [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22105293[/url] [url]http://www.gires.org.uk/assets/Medpro-Assets/AMA122.pdf[/url] [url]http://www.wpath.org/site_page.cfm?pk_association_webpage_menu=1352&pk_association_webpage=3947[/url] [url]http://www.wpath.org/uploaded_files/140/files/IJT%20SOC,%20V7.pdf[/url] [url]http://www.apa.org/about/policy/transgender.aspx[/url] Some sciency hard to read stuff: [url]http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v378/n6552/abs/378068a0.html[/url] [quote] Our study is the first to show a [b]female brain structure in genetically male transsexuals and supports the hypothesis that gender identity develops as a result of an interaction between the developing brain and sex hormones.[/b][/quote] [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/[/url] [quote]These findings provide new evidence that transsexualism is associated with distinct cerebral pattern, which supports the assumption that [b]brain anatomy plays a role in gender identity.[/b][/quote] [url]http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.5.6564[/url] [quote]The present findings of somatostatin neuronal sex differences in the BSTc and its sex reversal in the transsexual brain [b]clearly support the paradigm that in transsexuals sexual differentiation of the brain and genitals may go into opposite directions and point to a neurobiological basis of gender identity disorder.[/b][/quote]

[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;49145755]Idc, if people want me to refer to them as xir or whatever I'll just do it. It's not like it takes any kind of effort. It's like, whatever makes your goofy ass happy dude[/QUOTE] I think pronouns should be used to refer to biological sex, not gender. After all, how do we refer to our pets who have no concept of gender identity? By their sex.

[QUOTE=pdp;49145955]I think pronouns should be used to refer to biological sex, not gender. After all, how do we refer to our pets who have no concept of gender identity? By their sex.[/QUOTE] Because an average animal doesn't understand the words or implications of what you say to it, beyond its name, "sit!", and "do you want some chicken?" A person, on the other hand, may respond with: [url]http://www.gires.org.uk/assets/Medpro-Assets/AMA122.pdf[/url] [quote]a persistent discomfort with one’s assigned sex and with one’s primary and secondary sex characteristics, which causes [b]intense emotional pain and suffering[/b][/quote] And if someone asks you to do something simple that requires next to no effort and doesn't hurt you just to avoid that, why wouldn't you?

[QUOTE=pdp;49145955]I think pronouns should be used to refer to biological sex, not gender. After all, how do we refer to our pets who have no concept of gender identity? By their sex.[/QUOTE] but if they have no concept of gender identity in what way are they comparable to humans who demonstrably do just from the fact that this is an actual discussion? don't compare trans people to animals dude it's not very nice

Mild diarrhea can be fun, because it feels REALLY good when it stops.

[QUOTE=pdp;49145955]I think pronouns should be used to refer to biological sex, not gender. After all, how do we refer to our pets who have no concept of gender identity? By their sex.[/QUOTE] When meeting others' pets people don't drop to the ground to inspect their genitals, they're told, and they just take whatever they're told. That can easily be done for humans too. You can also lookup Trans bathroom selfies to see what awkward situations arise when you view gender solely based on one's genitals.

[QUOTE=pdp;49145955]I think pronouns should be used to refer to biological sex, not gender. After all, how do we refer to our pets who have no concept of gender identity? By their sex.[/QUOTE] Gee. Do you ever make any good posts? [editline]a[/editline] Identity is separate from biology. There's a post literally above yours that's full of information about the subject, dude.

This isn't coming from a transphobic place. It semantically makes more sense to use pronounce to refer to sex instead of gender.

People don't give a shit about semantics 90% of the time. It's only when this subject arises that people suddenly start caring about it. [editline]a[/editline] "hey dude what's up" "The sky." "i mean, what are you doing" "Next time try being more semantically correct, idiot." -pdp, 2015.

How though? It can be quite hurtful, and semantically you can't always discern someone's genitals unless you have x-ray dick vision.

[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;49146056]People don't give a shit about semantics 90% of the time. It's only when this subject arises that people suddenly start caring about it.[/QUOTE] The fuck? If people don't give a shit about semantics, then why am I considered an asshole for not calling someone who prefers it, "xir"?

God bless not being American and just having to refer to people as "him" or "her"

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;49146085]God bless not being American and just having to refer to people as "him" or "her"[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say that in your place, there are people doing that whole "special pronoun" thing at Denmark what I've heard and it might one day reach there too consindering you people have ela/ele.

[QUOTE=pdp;49146067]The fuck? If people don't give a shit about semantics, then why am I considered an asshole for not calling someone who prefers it, "xir"?[/QUOTE] Because it makes them feel bad? This is not a hard thing to understand, bruv. Everyone uses semantically flawed and nonsensical idioms in their everyday speech and nobody cares. Being this anal about semantics is just a shitty justification to be an asshole. Like, this whole little argument you're trying to make is already more effort than just referring to someone as xir/zer/whatfuckingever and moving on with your life, lmao.

[QUOTE=Combine 177;49146106]I wouldn't say that in your place, there are people doing that whole "special pronoun" thing at Denmark what I've heard and it might one day reach there too consindering you people have ela/ele.[/QUOTE] nah, we're too poor for that until there's political and economical stability, arguments like these won't come up especially since we (technically) don't have a government right now since the recently elected one didn't get a majority and got rejected by the opposition after 11 days in office

I've literally never met a person that goes by an artificial pronoun. I wouldn't say it's an American thing. I wish English made singular they into standard usage, so that the need for things like "xir" is reduced.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49146124]I've literally never met a person that goes by an artificial pronoun. I wouldn't say it's an American thing. I wish English made singular they into standard usage, so that the need for things like "xir" is reduced.[/QUOTE] "Xir" gives more special snowflake fuzzies than "they." [I]We're all special![/I] [editline]19th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;49146115]Because it makes them feel bad? This is not a hard thing to understand, bruv. Everyone uses semantically flawed and nonsensical idioms in their everyday speech and nobody cares. Being this anal about semantics is just a shitty justification to be an asshole. Like, this whole little argument you're trying to make is already more effort than just referring to someone as xir/zer/whatfuckingever and moving on with your life, lmao.[/QUOTE] Effort? The fuck you talking about, bud? Who decided effort was what defined social norms?

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;49146124]I've literally never met a person that goes by an artificial pronoun. I wouldn't say it's an American thing. I wish English made singular they into standard usage, so that the need for things like "xir" is reduced.[/QUOTE] Exactly, which is why I find it especially stupid when some nerd goes on a tirade about special snowflakes wanting to be adressed with different pronouns when it's not even common. I'm just saying that it takes absolutely no effort to do so if you have to. It's a manufacturoversy.

I don't give a shit what you want me to call you as long as you don't presume that any slip on my part is my attempt to OPREZZ you. Especially in RL if its someone you will work with often its not a lot of effort to say Y instead of X. Although on an online board I probably can't be arsed so much especially if its a fast paced board and I will definitely never use xir/they.

[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;49146154]Exactly, which is why I find it especially stupid when some nerd goes on a tirade about special snowflakes wanting to be adressed with different pronouns when it's not even common. I'm just saying that it takes absolutely no effort to do if you have to.[/QUOTE] Nobody has to, and people should in fact go out of their way to interrupt the idiocy that causes something like "xir" to even be considered normalcy.

I just hate when a series, as far as the plot is concerned, DOESN'T GET TO THE FUCKING POINT in the span of several YEARS

[QUOTE=Qaus;49145424]there's so much wrong with this i'm not sure if it's worth bothering. [editline]19th November 2015[/editline] ok i'll give you one freebie biological sex ≠ gender identity[/QUOTE] My unpopular opinion: If you have, or had a dick, you're a guy. And no amount of made up """identity""" will change that.

[QUOTE=Spor;49146530]My unpopular opinion: If you have, or had a dick, you're a guy. And no amount of made up """identity""" will change that.[/QUOTE] Not an opinion, just ignorance. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Spor;49146530]My unpopular opinion: If you have, or had a dick, you're a guy. And no amount of made up """identity""" will change that.[/QUOTE] imagine a being so deeply invested in the flawed concept of the gender binary that you're not only more than willing to just be an asshole, but to be an [I]ignorant[/I] asshole too.

[QUOTE=pdp;49146549]Not an opinion, just ignorance. Sorry.[/QUOTE] I'm gonna play devils advocate for the hell of it and ask Ignorant of what exactly