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The obese are that way partly due to their environment and society.
the fuck i'd assume most Facepunchers are within the 16-25 range in age and already you're talking about sterilizing yourselves like the fuck get settled within your 30-40s first
[QUOTE=GreenBH;49199351]the fuck i'd assume most Facepunchers are within the 16-25 range in age and already you're talking about sterilizing yourselves like the fuck get settled within your 30-40s first[/QUOTE] Meh, if you feel pretty damn confident that you do not want kids and will never want kids, go for it. No sense having an unwanted pregnancy and ending up with a kid you don't love. And this is coming from someone who does want a kid eventually.
Bombing ISIS to high hell is like taking antibiotics to stop an infection and suddenly stopping the prescription while it is only half way finished. It helps at first but it will come back stronger and more powerful, there's better ways to tackle this problem than to just bomb them. Stop sending supplies to the faux Free Syrian Army, support Assad, the Kurds (Turkey might not like that) and most importantly, try to do your best to stop Islamophobia (treating every Muslim as if they are a potential terrorist), because you do not want to alienate such a large portion of the world's population and have them turn their backs on the west because that would help legitimize groups such as ISIS/ISIL, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram, Taliban, Al Nursa etc.
I'm pretty sure the powers that be are totally fine with the fact that ISIS exists. They're not a real threat to anything important and they make for an excellent political boogeyman
You know, some have posted that theory. If they actually were destroyed, they have no excuses to take what liberties we have left. I would rather not support Assad. He has used chemical weapons. Let the Russians use him. Concerning the current pissing match between Turkey and Russia, yeah using now would be a prime time to use the Kurds.
Most of the people who say "I never want to have kids" are still under the age of 25 and will most likely change their mind by the age of 30. It's not a bad thing, though, to think at that age. Thank fuckin god you ain't talking bout having kids at 18.
I'm really getting sick of this forum and it's rampant love of guns. Like, I've never been that interested in guns (especially modern firearms; I like antique firearms but newer stuff has never appealed to me) but it seems like every fucking thread has some nutjob running his mouth about guns like he has a fetish for them. It's just ridiculous how obsessed with them people are on this forum and saying [I]anything[/I] about them gets the Facepunch Gun Club jumping down your throat. SH is now a minefield of gun threads. Seriously, I was banned for one summer and suddenly this place turns into /k/ version 2. In my honest opinion, it's because most of the Europeans left or became inactive.
firearms are a fact of life here. So no siding. The reason to have them is so the civilians can fight an oppressive government. It is something Ive noticed in what little history I know, goverment (like pre modern japan) did disarm civilians to keep a tight reign on people. However I relay don't think thats the only way for someone to fight back. There are non violent ways too, that is if you want to subvert a government. You just need money. Lots and lots of it.
guns have gotten very very popular probably thanks to the internet and video games [QUOTE=JohhnyCarson;49200877]firearms are a fact of life here. So no siding. The reason to have them is so the civilians can fight an oppressive government. It is something Ive noticed in what little history I know, goverment (like pre modern japan) did disarm civilians to keep a tight reign on people.[/QUOTE] congratulations, you're officially the ten billionth person to explain things in that exact way
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49200823]i think its just that no one really wants to argue it with them because they're already too far gone[/QUOTE] Plus whenever people go on a rant campaign about divisive issues bans start flying out like crazy, which has probably discouraged it a lil bit. The forum is probably split on it more evenly than you think BananaFoam
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49200896]guns have gotten very very popular probably thanks to the internet and video games congratulations, you're officially the ten billionth person to explain things in that exact way[/QUOTE] You didnt read the rest of my post. I don't mind them, I see a reason for them, I know people who love them, but I do not own any. So personally it doesnt affect me one way or another. If it ever comes down to needing to change a government, I am stating having lots of money would be a better weapon (at least in the US), then a rusty pea shooter one may have found in their grad dad's basement. To me, I wouldn't know what it be like to live in a culture without them. So it doesn't bother me when violence incidents involving firearms occurs is mentioned in the news . I just accept shit happens and move on.
[QUOTE=JohhnyCarson;49200877]The reason to have them is so the civilians can fight an oppressive government.[/QUOTE] to be honest there aren't many examples where its actually worked in history if the government was genuinely oppressive it would take steps to work around a law which allows people to own guns. the real reason the american revolution was won was because even if the british won the war they would have still ultimately lost more than they gained ultimately it's pragmatism which wins. considering the history of armed rebellion and their success rate, the odds aren't very high. virtually every state which has been overthrown has collapsed due to significant internal weaknesses in the political system. people having guns or lacking guns makes very little difference in all honesty because there are thousands of cases of rebellions by heavily armed common people failing due to a variety of human reasons gun-toting patriots would be hard-pressed to rebuilt the state and repair the damage while making sure it doesn't fall back into the same problems within a few years. just look at libya or mexico
[QUOTE=JohhnyCarson;49200877]firearms are a fact of life here. So no siding. The reason to have them is so the civilians can fight an oppressive government. It is something Ive noticed in what little history I know, goverment (like pre modern japan) did disarm civilians to keep a tight reign on people. However I relay don't think thats the only way for someone to fight back. There are non violent ways too, that is if you want to subvert a government. You just need money. Lots and lots of it.[/QUOTE] The most effective forms of resistance are non-violent. And if you think owning some AR-15 makes you a badass then you are fucking delusional. If the government wants to kill you, it can. I guarantee that there are people who have been fucking erased from the public without the majority of us slackjaws even knowing, because the US government, for all it's rampant inefficiency and stupidity on the surface, is still the single most powerful entity in the entire world. And too those who claim that guns can "stop crime", you too are delusional. For every one instance where a violent crime is stopped by a civilian gun owner, there are four more where some asshole pulling out his gun only makes matters worse, and even more where the asshole with the gun isn't mentally prepared to use his weapon and doesn't even pull it out in said situation. Video games have eroded our minds into thinking we are all heroes but quite frankly none of us would last a day in an warzone, ghetto, or even active shooter scenario. There are two reasons to own guns in this world; hunting and self-fulfillment. The first is self-explanatory but the second if the "hidden" issue of gun control. Nobody admits to buying a gun because they want to feel cool or gain confidence and authority over others, they always use some nonsense excuse like "security" but it is never true. You bought it because you are impotent, have low self-esteem, and need a male power symbol to elevate yourself. If people were at least honest about that second part then I wouldn't be so upset over it. If they just admitted that they liked guns because they make them feel masculine, then I would understand and could maybe even approach the subject myself. But everyone wants to hide behind excuses because they don't want to admit their own shortcomings. Basically I'm saying be real about it folks, and do realize that gun ownership is not "cool". Guns should be treated with respect, not as toys or power symbols. Many of you gun nuts are the equivalent of the jackass in the supped-up motorcycle, except with an item explicitly invented to kill people.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;49200994]The most effective forms of resistance are non-violent. And if you think owning some AR-15 makes you a badass then you are fucking delusional. If the government wants to kill you, it can. I guarantee that there are people who have been fucking erased from the public without the majority of us slackjaws even knowing, because the US government, for all it's rampant inefficiency and stupidity on the surface, is still the single most powerful entity in the entire world.[/QUOTE] lost me at the US being the most powerful entity in the world
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49200992]to be honest there aren't many examples where its actually worked in history if the government was genuinely oppressive it would take steps to work around a law which allows people to own guns. the real reason the american revolution was won was because even if the british won the war they would have still ultimately lost more than they gained ultimately it's pragmatism which wins. considering the history of armed rebellion and their success rate, the odds aren't very high. virtually every state which has been overthrown has collapsed due to significant internal weaknesses in the political system. people having guns or lacking guns makes very little difference in all honesty because there are thousands of cases of rebellions by heavily armed common people failing due to a variety of human reasons gun-toting patriots would be hard-pressed to rebuilt the state and repair the damage while making sure it doesn't fall back into the same problems within a few years. just look at libya or mexico[/QUOTE] The pragmatism is what I agree with. To change a government requires more thought and thinking then just bombing mail boxes and shooting up schools. The problem is most revolutions want to do ust that. Violence with no aim or direction. If no violence involved, they get very whiny. Its all about relations ships and social dynamics. The first step is figuring out what makes (or allows) the government to exist. Altering that doesn't need violence at first. Dismantling, yes. Violence no. My theory is figure it based on the "meme sphere" You change that, the whole system of the old eventually gives way to the system of the new. [QUOTE]There are two reasons to own guns in this world; hunting and self-fulfillment. The first is self-explanatory but the second if the "hidden" issue of gun control. Nobody admits to buying a gun because they want to feel cool or gain confidence and authority over others, they always use some nonsense excuse like "security" but it is never true. You bought it because you are impotent, have low self-esteem, and need a male power symbol to elevate yourself.[/QUOTE] Owning a firearm to shoot is like setting off a fire work and for the same reason. Its fun to blow something up in a controled setting. With fire arms, its due to destroying a target. That and lot of fire arm owners are military vets. Gives them a chance to hang out with their buddies. Thats the real reason people in US own them
Having armed militias sitting around to one day topple the government is not going to protect freedom.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;49200994]The most effective forms of resistance are non-violent. And if you think owning some AR-15 makes you a badass then you are fucking delusional. If the government wants to kill you, it can. I guarantee that there are people who have been fucking erased from the public without the majority of us slackjaws even knowing, because the US government, for all it's rampant inefficiency and stupidity on the surface, is still the single most powerful entity in the entire world. And too those who claim that guns can "stop crime", you too are delusional. For every one instance where a violent crime is stopped by a civilian gun owner, there are four more where some asshole pulling out his gun only makes matters worse, and even more where the asshole with the gun isn't mentally prepared to use his weapon and doesn't even pull it out in said situation. Video games have eroded our minds into thinking we are all heroes but quite frankly none of us would last a day in an warzone, ghetto, or even active shooter scenario. There are two reasons to own guns in this world; hunting and self-fulfillment. The first is self-explanatory but the second if the "hidden" issue of gun control. Nobody admits to buying a gun because they want to feel cool or gain confidence and authority over others, they always use some nonsense excuse like "security" but it is never true. [B]You bought it because you are impotent, have low self-esteem, and need a male power symbol to elevate yourself.[/B] If people were at least honest about that second part then I wouldn't be so upset over it. If they just admitted that they liked guns because they make them feel masculine, then I would understand and could maybe even approach the subject myself. But everyone wants to hide behind excuses because they don't want to admit their own shortcomings. Basically I'm saying be real about it folks, and do realize that gun ownership is not "cool". Guns should be treated with respect, not as toys or power symbols. Many of you gun nuts are the equivalent of the jackass in the supped-up motorcycle, except with an item explicitly invented to kill people.[/QUOTE]What? Name me some people on this forum who actually think that guns are toys or power symbols because I've haven't seen anyone on here who fits that description, who here are the gun nuts? And what do you propose in terms of getting rid of guns? It's a logistics nightmare, that majority of those that own guns are not going to just give them up, and there are already hoops to jump through and licenses to purchase before you actually get your gun. And that's for citizens that abide by the law, illegally getting a gun is much much easier. And even if guns were outlawed there are such things as the black market, or homemade jerry-rigged guns. What makes you think people who go to shooting ranges for some sort of self-fulfillment are impotent and insecure? That's very generalizing.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49201032]Having armed militias sitting around to one day topple the government is not going to protect freedom.[/QUOTE] I didnt say militias and now one of my theories are now just being proven.
I believe all gangs should be, under law, considered domestic terrorist organizations and dealt with acordingly. The function of these gangs within their community is nothing but detrimental. The activities that they carry out generate fear in their regions and result in proliferation of violence, illegal drug circulation and many other activities befitting of a terrorist group on a smaller scale. [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] Also regarding the guns thing, considering over 50% of the users on FP are Americans I imagine that pro-gun of some sort is not an unpopular opinion and it's getting fucking ridiculous having someone starting another shit storm because it popped into their head to be mad about it I honestly feel like any gun-debate bullshit should be ban worthy outside of threads about gun-debate because it's poisonous and irrelevant to pretty much anything else on FP
[QUOTE=ghghop;49201045]I believe all gangs should be, under law, considered domestic terrorist organizations and dealt with acordingly. The function of these gangs within their community is nothing but detrimental. The activities that they carry out generate fear in their regions and result in proliferation of violence, illegal drug circulation and many other activities befitting of a terrorist group on a smaller scale.[/QUOTE] That would take some totalitarian measures to enforce though, the idea is already pushing towards a police state as it is.
[QUOTE=RAG Frag;49201077]That would take some totalitarian measures to enforce though, the idea is already pushing towards a police state as it is.[/QUOTE] With the information age and no privacy, I do not think gangs will be an issue for much longer. I also believe online gangs will be the future. Fuck mugging people in the street when you can do it with a computer.
[QUOTE=RAG Frag;49201077]That would take some totalitarian measures to enforce though, the idea is already pushing towards a police state as it is.[/QUOTE] I agree but what other solution is there because as of now anything we'recurrently doing isn't working
[QUOTE=Killer900;49201040]What? Name me some people on this forum who actually think that guns are toys or power symbols because I've haven't seen anyone on here who fits that description, who here are the gun nuts? And what do you propose in terms of getting rid of guns? It's a logistics nightmare, that majority of those that own guns are not going to just give them up, and there are already hoops to jump through and licenses to purchase before you actually get your gun. And that's for citizens that abide by the law, illegally getting a gun is much much easier. And even if guns were outlawed there are such things as the black market, or homemade jerry-rigged guns. What makes you think people who go to shooting ranges for some sort of self-fulfillment are impotent and insecure? That's very generalizing.[/QUOTE] It is generalizing, but that's the point. I compared it to motorcycles or cars and it is very much the same thing. A big, expensive, powerful car makes people feel more confident and powerful on the road. Even I've fallen victim to this, driving in a massive truck. Guns are the same principle but more insidious. People on FP constantly jump at the chance to either mention what kind of gun they own or go into absurd detail in talking about guns and the technical aspects the same a gearhead would. And my rant was never about [I]gun control.[/I] Your strawman bullshit won't work with the "I don't see you suggesting anything better" because I never even brought up the issue of gun control. Guns are more of a cultural issue, and that was the point I was trying to make. We need to change our view on firearms and treat them less like prestige items and more like power tools; something to get the job done. I mean, if you saw someone constantly bring up what kind of buzzsaw they own and the technical aspects of it you'd think they were a little nuts, so why is it suddenly okay with guns?
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49201090]im gonna use my 22 plinking rifle to take down the totalitarian ac-130s that will soon plague this great nation[/QUOTE]Cool it with the condescension
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49201093]imagine being a ganger in meatspace in 2015[/QUOTE] I live in a gang infested hood. I hear them get drunk and have fist fights over whose the most "thug" What I mean is gangs (I am assuming) need privacy to hide their actives. If their is no privacy, there will be no place to hide, thus no gangs. [editline]27th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=ghghop;49201091]I agree but what other solution is there because as of now anything we'recurrently doing isn't working[/QUOTE] Gangs provide identity, protection, a sense of belonging, and a perceived way to make money real fast. Have to provide a healthy alternative. I guess make a better sense of community. One way (it is an experiment from down my house) is urban farming. An entire complex is made responsible for a crop. Its interesting. No idea if its working. The other reason is due to time perspective. Those in gangs have a more present oriented perspective. Most on the forums here I believe are future oriented. Change that may help things. [QUOTE]im gonna use my 22 plinking rifle to take down the totalitarian ac-130s that will soon plague this great nation[/QUOTE] If you're replying to me, you proving my theories on human nature even MORE correct. That was part of what I said. However I said more then that and no one replying to that. Its like it was invisible to them. Its like you've been conditioned to see and only react to certain things. If something outside that programming comes along, you literally cant see that thing. Why is this?
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;49201096]It is generalizing, but that's the point. I compared it to motorcycles or cars and it is very much the same thing. A big, expensive, powerful car makes people feel more confident and powerful on the road. Even I've fallen victim to this, driving in a massive truck. Guns are the same principle but more insidious. People on FP constantly jump at the chance to either mention what kind of gun they own or go into absurd detail in talking about guns and the technical aspects the same a gearhead would. And my rant was never about [I]gun control.[/I] Your strawman bullshit won't work with the "I don't see you suggesting anything better" because I never even brought up the issue of gun control. Guns are more of a cultural issue, and that was the point I was trying to make. We need to change our view on firearms and treat them less like prestige items and more like power tools; something to get the job done. I mean, if you saw someone constantly bring up what kind of buzzsaw they own and the technical aspects of it you'd think they were a little nuts, so why is it suddenly okay with guns?[/QUOTE] Many many gun owners already respect it as a tool and don't treat it as a toy so I really don't know where you're getting that idea from, I don't even know what a strawman is so I don't know why you're getting all hot and bothered by "strawman bullshit". Idk? I guess like you said it's a cultural thing. Are guns not a hobby? Because it's designed as something to kill things with I guess not right. People collect knives and swords as a hobby and those are designed to kill things too (did you ever see Gabe Newell's collection?), does this same mindset apply to knife collectors? And you still haven't told me who the gun nuts/fetishists/obsessed users on this forum are
[QUOTE=JohhnyCarson;49201108]The other reason is due to time perspective. Those in gangs have a more present oriented perspective. Most on the forums here I believe are future oriented. Change that may help things.[/QUOTE] I feel like the economical situations in the areas where gang activity prospers is what needs fixing but the scale of that kind of operation isn't a realistic undertaking.
[QUOTE=ghghop;49201152]I feel like the economical situations in the areas where gang activity prospers is what needs fixing but the scale of that kind of operation isn't a realistic undertaking.[/QUOTE] Well education with time perspective is one thing. Translating the future oriented speak to someone who is present oriented would work. So it is possible. Beyond that no I dont see a cheaper way of doing it. Im sorry but everyone is on their own in this world. You cannot help others. Only yourself.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49201090]im gonna use my 22 plinking rifle to take down the totalitarian ac-130s that will soon plague this great nation[/QUOTE] the AC-130 pilots live in houses in the United States as well as their commanders and their mechanics and their political leaders and the owners of the information empires that support them the idea is that you go to their house and kill them
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