• Is facepunch getting too liberal?
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[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;40080858]thisispain is a gigantic cunt and I misread his name as "thespian" for about a year before I realized what it actually said. He can go get hit by a car, or a bus if he really felt like it.[/QUOTE] I dunno, thisispain actually comes up with some p good points in hot topic threads that don't sound like reworded stock arguments from tumblr/feminist site #9223460986, but I can understand the dislike towards him from the way everyone just reluctantly expects his inevitable arrival on race/women threads Dori though had a WOMEN CAN DO NOTHING WRONG AT ALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES IF A WOMAN BURNED DOWN AN ORPHANAGE AND KILLED A THOUSAND PUPPIES WITH A HAMMER SHE'D HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG IT WAS THE MENS FAULT ALL MEN ARE PIGS mentality, or it at least sure as hell came across that way from the time i've been here
Big difference between liberal and Nazi biased social justice warrior. Everything they touch turns to shit, equal rights turn from equal rights to "rights to anyone but white straight males", anti-racism becomes just anti-white and women's rights movements become just hatred ideology against men. They're pretty much the equivalents of Nazis, just directed towards white straight males instead. Also hilarious when they say white straight males have no right to complain about discrimination (and no, they really don't see the irony in that). So no it's not getting too liberal, it's getting too much of the wrong kind of liberal. Also worth noting that these people appear to be a lot more than they actually are, since they will never stop arguing about this stuff and shoehorn it into [B]anything[/B] they can find.
[QUOTE=acds;40081286]Big difference between liberal and Nazi biased social justice warrior. Everything they touch turns to shit, equal rights turn from equal rights to "rights to anyone but white straight males", anti-racism becomes just anti-white and women's rights movements become just hatred ideology against men. They're pretty much the equivalents of Nazis, just directed towards white straight males instead. Also hilarious when they say white straight males have no right to complain about discrimination (and no, they really don't see the irony in that). So no it's not getting too liberal, it's getting too much of the wrong kind of liberal. Also worth noting that these people appear to be a lot more than they actually are, since they will never stop arguing about this stuff and shoehorn it into [B]anything[/B] they can find.[/QUOTE] Same shit, different ideology. And those radical far green/left people will also boost the far right and radical nationalists. And then we're fucked.
[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;40080858]thisispain is a gigantic cunt and I misread his name as "thespian" for about a year before I realized what it actually said. He can go get hit by a car, or a bus if he really felt like it.[/QUOTE] I have to disagree. He's just asserting and defending his views. In fact, he's one of the more reasonable people. It's Kopimi you're thinking of.
a whole thread dedicated to people unable to work the ignore list.
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;40081527]I have to disagree. He's just asserting and defending his views. In fact, he's one of the more reasonable people. It's Kopimi you're thinking of.[/QUOTE] I actually have nothing against thisispain, Kopimi is just an idiot.
i'm registered democrat. i voted for obama in 2012. used to be into politics, not really anymore.
kopimi used to be cool believe it or not, then something weird happened to him and became blind to logical arguments and started hanging out in SH i don't know if becoming an idiot made him want to go hang out in SH or him starting to hang out in SH caused him to become an idiot; i don't know what came first
liberal =/= left now is it?
When did this thread become a persecution complex support group?
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;40070141]Only thing that worries me is the nutters who support bestiality and try to argue that animals can consent, or that it doesn't matter since we eat animals so we should be able to abuse them, that stuff just irritates me every time I see it. That and people who are for smoking in public buildings and around children. Beyond those though I'm not too bothered by facepunch's political views[/QUOTE] Tbh what's wrong with beastiality if it doesn't harm the animal? That's a whole different discussion though. Also nobody is for smoking around children.
[QUOTE=Don Ochs;40091849]liberal =/= left now is it?[/QUOTE] The modern term Liberal refers to the center left, in the 19th century and early 20th century it referred to the right, well economically.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40098782]The modern term Liberal refers to the center left, in the 19th century and early 20th century it referred to the right, well economically.[/QUOTE] Alrighty, I'm not very educated on politics - I always thought left was social and right conservative and then up authority(or whatever it's called) and down liberal. But I guess that wouldn't make sense, I dunno.
[QUOTE=person11;40067357]People thinking Facepunch is either too liberal or too conservative are probably suffering from the inability to see objective political moderation. Moderates are traditionally, on the political scale, more conservative than the labor/socialist parties, but more liberal than conservative/republican parties. Example of moderate parties like this include Democrats and the (now extinct) Radical parties in France and Latin America. People who think that Facepunch is too liberal have a misplaced sense of what is Moderate, and probably attribute Democrats as Liberals. People who think Facepunch is too conservative probably have something closer to Modern Socialism as their idea of Moderateness. The first thing one should do when discussing political ideology is to get acquainted with the basic spectrum of political ideologies on an objective left-right scale. Though, depending on the researcher, the specifics can be different, the basic idea is this: Anarchism, Communism, Modern Socialist/Labour, Radical/Centrist, Conservative, Libertarian, Fascist. Using this scale, and being present during many political debates on Facepunch, I believe that Facepunch is actually pretty even, with a large amount of Centrists (meaning, aligned with Democrats), with strong minorities of Socialists and Libertarians.[/QUOTE] I think you completely disregarded the Y axis to the political spectrum. As to whether FP is becoming "too" liberal or not, I can't really say. I don't put myself into the definition of either conservative or liberal and I've been called both. I have views that agree with liberals and views that agree with conservatives. In some threads I get pelted with agrees, other threads I get pelted with boxes. I just look at each subject and situation independently. I don't have a cookie-cutter ideology that I apply myself toward, though I call myself libertarian as a general self description.
I'm fine with the liberal thoughts. What I don't like is that if someone expresses an opinion that is more conservative, they automatically are assumed to be racist, bigoted, wealthy sons of oil tycoons. Believe it or not, there are real, fiscal reasons to many conservative policies that often are called "racist". For example, many believe that deporting illegal immigrants is racist, due to profiling of Latinos. They don't realize that many illegal immigrants [I]aren't[/I] Latino, they can be from any race, and illegal immigration has a negative effect on the economy. May have strayed from the topic a bit, but in short, don't call people with other opinions dumbasses, respect and listen to their reasoning, then decide for yourself and move on.
This might sound like a dumb question but what is the Sanius Squad? Heard tons about it.
I'm pretty much liberal except for gun control, criminals don't follow laws, that's why they're criminals!!
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;40066407]Yeah since 99% of Facepunch would crucify me for my political views I keep quiet about them[/QUOTE] Occasionally I defend Israel on this forum. RIP me.
[QUOTE=junker|154;40107398]This might sound like a dumb question but what is the Sanius Squad? Heard tons about it.[/QUOTE] A group of music section members I think... for some reason people have an issue with them when they're in Sensational Headlines or somewhere, but really they make some good points.
Economic illiteracy is sometimes shocking on Facepunch.
[QUOTE=Lua Laputa;40081190]I dunno, thisispain actually comes up with some p good points in hot topic threads that don't sound like reworded stock arguments from tumblr/feminist site #9223460986, but I can understand the dislike towards him from the way everyone just reluctantly expects his inevitable arrival on race/women threads[/QUOTE] Nah thisispain is a pretty awful person. He always draws a given political subject back to race and sex, as well as simplifying anything he remotely disagrees with to a strawman. Even in thread arguments based around macroeconomics I see him always pull things back to racism. There are a number of subjects in which the discussion of race is appropriate, integral even. But thisispain is the kind of blindly-hardline emotional-appealing extremist that made me give up on even discussing politics on facepunch.
Well there exists a tranny AND a homo thread in gd where is the threads of traditional lifestyle choices
[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;40112590]Well there exists a tranny AND a homo thread in gd where is the threads of traditional lifestyle choices[/QUOTE] Ignoring that 'traditional' bullshit wording for a moment. There's no rule that says you can't make a thread like that, it just doesn't seem like a topic that would spark much conversation.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;40098782]The modern term Liberal refers to the center left, in the 19th century and early 20th century it referred to the right, well economically.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but state control used to mean something different. It's confusing and takes a history lesson to really explain it...of course, I guess extreme state control ends up like a monarchy anyway (in terms of power and resource distribution). Liberal was liberal compared to mercantilism. But liberal and conservative can be very fluid terms. It's more of a dumbed down system to help people choose a place philosophically, but at the cost of a full range of options. There is logic behind many traditional views as well, it's just that many aren't comes we would currently like. Tradition is not based purely on ignorance and blind faith. The reason people followed (follow) some of them might be, but from a structuralist point of view the reasoning becomes clear. Unfortunately, because those carrying on the tradition often didn't/don't understand the actual reasoning behind it (and not jus the packaging they were given in order to understand it, traditions can carry on when they are no longer needed, or after they have been altered and no longer work. Of course, the uniformed on both sides today can still make the same mistake [editline]1st April 2013[/editline] I'll clean that up later...maybe...I need to find my pants atm
[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;40112590]Well there exists a tranny AND a homo thread in gd where is the threads of traditional lifestyle choices[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=N0 WAR;40112889]Ignoring that 'traditional' bullshit wording for a moment. There's no rule that says you can't make a thread like that, it just doesn't seem like a topic that would spark much conversation.[/QUOTE] gays are the only people i know who think its a good idea to make a thread to talk about them being gay or talk about gay things and no, it never even gets close to being a support thread where gays help other gays get through their struggles it's just stupid and pointlessly flamboyant you know why it wouldn't spark much conversation, because straight people don't go around talking about how straight they are [editline]1st April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=N0 WAR;40112889]Ignoring that 'traditional' bullshit wording for a moment.[/QUOTE] lol yeah it's not traditional at all or anything, right guys? why would he use that term, wow, so offensive considering gay marriage cant even be comparatively traditional yet, so pls stop using that word sheesh [editline]1st April 2013[/editline] this is the type of bullshit that makes facepunch seem stupidly liberal i can't imagine meeting half of the people from facepunch in real life, because they're so hopelessly out of touch with reality
gay chat thread is just a place for gays to chat not really a problem since we got finnish chats and polish chats for people if we had one big chat this would make problems
[QUOTE=acpm;40115391]gays are the only people i know who think its a good idea to make a thread to talk about them being gay or talk about gay things and no, it never even gets close to being a support thread where gays help other gays get through their struggles it's just stupid and pointlessly flamboyant you know why it wouldn't spark much conversation, because straight people don't go around talking about how straight they are[/QUOTE]explain why like minded people talking to each other is bad? "gamers are the only people i know who think its a good idea to make a thread to talk about them being gamers or talk about games" guess what!! they have similar interests!! (penises or vaginas or the fact that they're transgendered) they want a place where they wont be judged (like you're doing)!! you are are the reason!! woah! why is it pointlessly flamboyant? what does that even mean? they're not taking out banner ads linking people to the threads asking them to chat about dicks, it's literally a thread title that you don't even have to click. people on the internet never stop updating people on the status of their dicks so idk what you're talking about saying straight people don't talk about how they're straight. what do you mean by that anyway, it's not a competition. why are you getting so upset about lgbt people? [editline]1st April 2013[/editline] are you being satirical
facepunch is full of annoying white male-to-female trannies who think they're always right and complain because their utopia will never become real and would never even work if it'd be real.
[QUOTE=Garik;40116075]facepunch is full of annoying white male-to-female trannies who think they're always right and complain because their utopia will never become real and would never even work if it'd be real.[/QUOTE] hey now, don't generalize. [sp]sure, as true as that might be[/sp], you're making yourself look a twat with that wording.
[QUOTE=Ban Camp;40116104]hey now, don't generalize. [sp]sure, as true as that might be[/sp], you're making yourself look a twat with that wording.[/QUOTE] "oh dont generalize plz" you guys always say that when someone speaks the truth about this forum whats the point in a forum if you're all completely different. [editline]1st April 2013[/editline] i don't care if i sound like a twat, its the truth and just because i come off as a god damn twat doesn't make it any less true
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