[QUOTE=Yahnich;40945940]is that because of the VAWA act i've heard MRAs on tumblr complain about[/QUOTE]
Yes the VAWA is what made all DV cases impossible to fight no matter what happened. All you have to do is softly brush upon another woman and they can call the police and say you pushed them to the ground and no matter what they have to take you to jail for at least 30 days until prosecuted through a speedy trial or what your attorney recommends which could involve waiving time or just taking 3 years felony probation which is the lowest it goes.
[QUOTE=White;40945900]California. When it comes to Domestic Violence no matter what you have to take a deal. Unless It's really obvious the woman is lying you either take the deal or go to prison. That's what my attorney told me and everyone in my dorm. Believe me I tried fighting it. I plead not guilty all the way up to my pre-trial, but in the end I had to take felony probation or I would of been sent to prison because in our society 'woman dont lie and all men are bad'[/QUOTE]
I appreciate the reply. I also live in California and I hope my friend is alright. His case took place about two years ago so he's likely either in prison or still on felony probation time.
Did you make any friends?
[QUOTE=White;40945955]Yes the VAWA is what made all DV cases impossible to fight no matter what happened. All you have to do is softly brush upon another woman and they can call the police and say you pushed them to the ground and no matter what they have to take you to jail for at least 30 days until prosecuted through a speedy trial or what your attorney recommends which could involve waiving time or just taking 3 years felony probation which is the lowest it goes.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like some serious bullshit man. Glad to see you came out on the other side better than before. It's always nice to hear what could be considered a 'success story'.
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[QUOTE=Xonax;40945972]Did you make any friends?[/QUOTE]
From what I can tell, he seems to have made acquaintance with this Curry fellow.
[QUOTE=Cpl.Shepherd;40945956]I appreciate the reply. I also live in California and I hope my friend is alright. His case took place about two years ago so he's likely either in prison or still on felony probation time.[/QUOTE]
Felony probation is more of a set up than anything. He could of tried to fight it then ended up in prison or he could of took felony probation. If he took felony probation then got released and went to go see the victim then he got sentenced to all of his charges guilty or not, that's how felony probation works. They keep you a 3 year period and if you fuck up at all or speak to the victim once even in a grocery store you get charged with every charge to the maximum extent.
[editline]8th June 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Xonax;40945972]Did you make any friends?[/QUOTE]
I'll never forget my friend Curry, he is the one that put my mind to good things and steered me in the right direction. I miss him more then I have ever missed anyone in my life. He gave me all his books that he read about philosophy, inner happiness, meditation practices, the holy bible and many more. The best book he gave me was The Four Agreements. I read that book 6 times and will never forget the wise information it provided me with on how to correctly live life. He was my personal trainer and best friend at the same time. We were always talking about our families and problems and we always understood eachother as if we were brothers. I'm currently writing him a letter as we speak so we can somehow connect when he is released. He plans on moving back to sacramento with his daughter and grandmother when he is released. He told me once he is on his feet he wants to help me out financially and still be a good friend. He was spending thousands of dollars on his commisary so I don't disbelieve the stories he has told me about him living a very easy life through his animal farm and other business. Jail was a healing experience more then a bad one. It broke me. I went in a little confused man without a real heart. I'm now as strong as steel in my mind, heart and body.
[QUOTE=White;40945900]California. When it comes to Domestic Violence no matter what you have to take a deal. Unless It's really obvious the woman is lying you either take the deal or go to prison. That's what my attorney told me and everyone in my dorm. Believe me I tried fighting it. I plead not guilty all the way up to my pre-trial, but in the end I had to take felony probation or I would of been sent to prison because in our society 'woman dont lie and all men are bad'[/QUOTE]
Was it a trial by judge or jury? It seems a little preposterous that you were convicted solely on testimony.
Welcome back to society. Glad to hear you only served 3 months, sounds like you coulda been there for way longer.
[QUOTE=Megafan;40946024]Was it a trial by judge or jury? It seems a little preposterous that you were convicted solely on testimony.[/QUOTE]
I would of went onto trial confirmation then jury selection if i didnt take the deal given to me today. I never went to trial because if I went to trial they would of charged me with at least one or two of the felonies I was being charged with and the ones they would of charged me with were prison time so I didn't want to take the risk and that's what my attorney told me to do.
Do you feel stronger as a person from the experience?
And also was jail worse/better than you expected?
It starts out like this:
O/R Bail Hearing
Arrainment
Intervention
Pre-Limenary Trial
Pre-trial
Trial Confirmation
Jury Selection
Jury Confirmation
Trial
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[QUOTE=Azza;40946043]Do you feel stronger as a person from the experience?
And also was jail worse/better than you expected?[/QUOTE]
I feel stronger as a person inside and outside but mostly on the inside. It was much better then expected. The first few weeks were really tough because I had no contact with anyone on the outside and I had no idea what my son or the girl I loved was doing. I was anxious and depressed and cried myself to sleep a few times. It was a very emotionally damaging experience at first but in the long run the wounds were sealed up and made stronger then ever.
Thats crazy I was just thinking how cool it'd be if someone who just got out of jail came and told their story.
Jeez, I can't even comprehend what that must have been like.
When you were released, what was the process of release like, and what did it feel like when it was totally official that you were no longer in jail?
What are you going to do now, now that you've gotten out?
What was your impression of the staff that worked there? Were they the stereotypical douchebags?
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;40946055]Thats crazy I was just thinking how cool it'd be if someone who just got out of jail came and told their story.
Jeez, I can't even comprehend what that must have been like.
When you were released, what was the process of release like, and what did it feel like when it was totally official that you were no longer in jail?[/QUOTE]
Well if it wasn't for my friend curry telling me how a Cruise waiver worked and how I could get one I would of been sitting in their until July 8th just to get released by my probation officer they selected. I was standing in court in front of a lot of other inmates being charged with other crimes and my attorney spoke with the judge telling him why I should be released on my own recognance. My attorney told the judge I was planning on attending a parenting classes and domestic violance classes and I had a place to stay and a job waiting for me and I was also a full time college student. The judge saw all that and proposed that I be released on a cruise waiver which means I still have to show up to court on the 8th to be sentenced to 3 years felony probation and pay up to $15,000 in court fees which I don't have. After that I went through what is called "The Walk of Shame" which is a really long concrete hallway that is very depressing, you have to walk this walk everytime you go to court which is your arrainment all the way to trial. I walked that walk of shame 5 times while in jail and let me tell you its very intimidating and depressing with handcuffs and baliefs escorting you. I was then let back into my dorm and everyone hopped on me and asked me what happened in court. Having my 3 months of experience I knew that if I told everyone I was getting out they would all try to get my dinner tray and remaining commisary(top ramens and honey buns etc) So what I did was tell everyone I wasnt getting out and I was taking it to trial. I then slipped a note to curry saying I was getting out and then sneakily passed him my commisary and gave him a bro hug and waited for the gaurd to say "Ward Roll it UP!" After the gaurd says that you roll up all your blankets and belongings you wish to keep and leave the dorm and go downstairs to remove your jail clothing and they give back to you the clothes and items you had when your were brought to jail. I then walked for 1 and a half hours to my mothers house and believe me being in jail for 3 months then going on a walk is a weird and good experience.
Did the time pass on quick or did it feel like the longest 3 months in your life? Would you be able to imagine how a much longer sentence (years) would be?
[QUOTE=Smashing Good;40946057]What are you going to do now, now that you've gotten out?[/QUOTE]
I'm now looking for work to pay off my court fines and child support. Once my probation is over with I will look into moving to another state or even another country. I honestly don't know what I'm going to do with my life from this point. I've been living a lie under the power of a succubus(my ex). I just want the best for my son and myself. I want to pursue college further and build my resume. I want to do things I've never done before. I don't fear death as much as I used to and I want to start talking to people more and be more open. I want to make as many friends as possible and try my best to make my life and the world I live in a better place.
[QUOTE=White;40946096]Well if it wasn't for my friend curry telling me how a Cruise waiver worked and how I could get one I would of been sitting in their until July 8th just to get released by my probation officer they selected. I was standing in court in front of a lot of other inmates being charged with other crimes and my attorney spoke with the judge telling him why I should be released on my own recognance. My attorney told the judge I was planning on attending a parenting classes and domestic violance classes and I had a place to stay and a job waiting for me and I was also a full time college student. The judge saw all that and proposed that I be released on a cruise waiver which means I still have to show up to court on the 8th to be sentenced to 3 years felony probation and pay up to $15,000 in court fees which I don't have. After that I went through what is called "The Walk of Shame" which is a really long concrete hallway that is very depressing, you have to walk this walk everytime you go to court which is your arrainment all the way to trial. I walked that walk of shame 5 times while in jail and let me tell you its very intimidating and depressing with handcuffs and baliefs escorting you. I was then let back into my dorm and everyone hopped on me and asked me what happened in court. Having my 3 months of experience I knew that if I told everyone I was getting out they would all try to get my dinner tray and remaining commisary(top ramens and honey buns etc) So what I did was tell everyone I wasnt getting out and I was taking it to trial. I then slipped a note to curry saying I was getting out and then sneakily passed him my commisary and gave him a bro hug and waited for the gaurd to say "Ward Roll it UP!" After the gaurd says that you roll up all your blankets and belongings you wish to keep and leave the dorm and go downstairs to remove your jail clothing and they give back to you the clothes and items you had when your were brought to jail. I then walked for 1 and a half hours to my mothers house and believe me being in jail for 3 months then going on a walk is a weird and good experience.[/QUOTE]
Ah I was actually going to ask how much family contact you'd had since you got out. I imagine your mother was very emotional.
Well I'm happy for you dude, Your story is incredibly inspiring and I wish you the best in the world.
If, in the future, you need help with court fees... shoot me a PM. I can't provide very much but I'll do all I can.
[QUOTE=pansarkurt;40946078]What was your impression of the staff that worked there? Were they the stereotypical douchebags?[/QUOTE]
I witnessed Correctional Officers beat handcuffed inmates and trash talk inmates many times. The system is very corrupt and filing any type of grievance or complaint wont do any good because they all get paid by the same person and its a very small county that I live in. I live in Humboldt County and the justice system around here is a group effort and they all look out for eachother. Most of the gaurds were short, scrawny, fat, stalky and had really small voices and felt they had to prove themselves by being disrespectful and taking advantage of their power.
You mentioned you have children, how old are they? Guessing your ex has custody over them now?
[QUOTE=White;40946096]Well if it wasn't for my friend curry telling me how a Cruise waiver worked and how I could get one I would of been sitting in their until July 8th just to get released by my probation officer they selected. I was standing in court in front of a lot of other inmates being charged with other crimes and my attorney spoke with the judge telling him why I should be released on my own recognance. My attorney told the judge I was planning on attending a parenting classes and domestic violance classes and I had a place to stay and a job waiting for me and I was also a full time college student. The judge saw all that and proposed that I be released on a cruise waiver which means I still have to show up to court on the 8th to be sentenced to 3 years felony probation and pay up to $15,000 in court fees which I don't have. After that I went through what is called "The Walk of Shame" which is a really long concrete hallway that is very depressing, you have to walk this walk everytime you go to court which is your arrainment all the way to trial. I walked that walk of shame 5 times while in jail and let me tell you its very intimidating and depressing with handcuffs and baliefs escorting you. I was then let back into my dorm and everyone hopped on me and asked me what happened in court. Having my 3 months of experience I knew that if I told everyone I was getting out they would all try to get my dinner tray and remaining commisary(top ramens and honey buns etc) So what I did was tell everyone I wasnt getting out and I was taking it to trial. I then slipped a note to curry saying I was getting out and then sneakily passed him my commisary and gave him a bro hug and waited for the gaurd to say "Ward Roll it UP!" After the gaurd says that you roll up all your blankets and belongings you wish to keep and leave the dorm and go downstairs to remove your jail clothing and they give back to you the clothes and items you had when your were brought to jail. I then walked for 1 and a half hours to my mothers house and believe me being in jail for 3 months then going on a walk is a weird and good experience.[/QUOTE]
So you have to stay in Prison/Jail for 3 years? Wow, the girl you had children with is a bitch, ruining your life. Unless I read that wrong. But either way, she is a bitch. No offense of course.
[QUOTE=Donkie;40946117]Did the time pass on quick or did it feel like the longest 3 months in your life? Would you be able to imagine how a much longer sentence (years) would be?[/QUOTE]
The first few days felt like weeks, the next few weeks felt like months then everything started panning out on its own.
No, probation is when you have to be a good boy for a certain amount of time and cause no trouble.
[QUOTE=Xonax;40946144]So you have to stay in Prison/Jail for 3 years? Wow, the girl you had children with is a bitch, ruining your life. Unless I read that wrong. But either way, she is a bitch. No offense of course.[/QUOTE]
Felony probation, not prison.
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[QUOTE=O'Neil;40946141]You mentioned you have children, how old are they? Guessing your ex has custody over them now?[/QUOTE]
I have a son that's 1 years old. She hasn't filed for any type of custody yet, if she would of I would of received paperwork by now. I'm just going to let her raise him since she is a good mother she just wanted me out of her life. I've accepted that and am moving on.
[QUOTE=White;40946153]I have a son that's 1 years old. She hasn't filed for any type of custody yet, if she would of I would of received paperwork by now.[B] I'm just going to let her raise him since she is a good mother[/B] she just wanted me out of her life. I've accepted that and am moving on.[/QUOTE]
I would be careful with that position
[QUOTE=White;40946121]I'm now looking for work to pay off my court fines and child support. Once my probation is over with I will look into moving to another state or even another country. I honestly don't know what I'm going to do with my life from this point. I've been living a lie under the power of a succubus(my ex). I just want the best for my son and myself. I want to pursue college further and build my resume. I want to do things I've never done before. I don't fear death as much as I used to and I want to start talking to people more and be more open. I want to make as many friends as possible and try my best to make my life and the world I live in a better place.[/QUOTE]
If I could, I would rate this winner ten times over.
OP you are a good man, I wish you all the best in your life.
Best prison thread since that guy came back to /b/ after being in prison. Thanks, OP.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;40946161]I would be careful with that position[/QUOTE]
She isn't a terrible person, she tried leaving me and I just brushed her off by ignoring her. I will still be in my sons life because he is my world. I'm just going to be his hero on the sidelines and be their for him whenever he needs me.
I think what she did was a bit too extreme to get you out of her life. I hope everything turns out well for you from now on.
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