I was just in jail for 3 months. - General

reading this thread was like reading some motivational, poignant novel. First time a thread has moved me. Good job for getting through it so well, man.

[QUOTE=White;40946035]I would of went onto trial confirmation then jury selection if i didnt take the deal given to me today. I never went to trial because if I went to trial they would of charged me with at least one or two of the felonies I was being charged with and the ones they would of charged me with were prison time so I didn't want to take the risk and that's what my attorney told me to do.[/QUOTE] And do you know if that's actually true? Conviction rates for similar cases, perhaps?

[QUOTE=White;40946179]She isn't a terrible person, she tried leaving me and I just brushed her off by ignoring her. I will still be in my sons life because he is my world. I'm just going to be his hero on the sidelines and be their for him whenever he needs me.[/QUOTE] Will she still let you see him? I'd imagine your probation means you're not allowed to see [I]her[/I] right? Does that mean she'll drop him off at your Mum's place and then you pick him up from there or something?

[QUOTE=Megafan;40946208]And do you know if that's actually true? Conviction rates for similar cases, perhaps?[/QUOTE] I just went off what my attorney told me was best for me. If you were told that you could face prison time for 4-10 years what would you of done? It's a very difficult decision to choose Felony probation and just be releived from all that stress of possible prison time, other then fighting it in front of a jury where people could possibly judge you by your looks and by how good of an actress the victim is which would be a young mother in my case. [editline]8th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Maloof?;40946220]Will she still let you see him? I'd imagine your probation means you're not allowed to see [I]her[/I] right? Does that mean she'll drop him off at your Mum's place and then you pick him up from there or something?[/QUOTE] Sadly my attorney told me I should go through my first year of probation without seeing my son. Only because all she has to do is call the police once and I will be charged to the full extent of my charges which would be prison time. If I stay out of trouble for a year and finish my 52 weeks of domestic violance classes I can possibly get my probation exspunged on good behavior and recieve a misdemeanor.

I love you and I hope you sleep soundly tonight OP.

[QUOTE=White;40946241]I just went off what my attorney told me was best for me. If you were told that you could face prison time for 4-10 years what would you of done? It's a very difficult decision to choose Felony probation and just be releived from all that stress of possible prison time, other then fighting it in front of a jury where people could possibly judge you by your looks and by how good of an actress the victim is which would be a young mother in my case. [editline]8th June 2013[/editline] Sadly my attorney told me I should go through my first year of probation without seeing my son. Only because all she has to do is call the police once and I will be charged to the full extent of my charges which would be prison time. If I stay out of trouble for a year and finish my 52 weeks of domestic violance classes I can possibly get my probation exspunged on good behavior and recieve a misdemeanor.[/QUOTE] Though, I am curious, what about the VAWA would have gotten you convicted? No portion of that law requires or provides any kind of auto-conviction so long as a woman testifies. And besides, if your (or the attorney's) concern was over whether or not a jury would be convinced you were guilty, the VAWA would have nothing to do with that anyway.

[QUOTE=White;40946241]domestic violance classes[/QUOTE] But I thought you didn't threaten her? Or do they still believe you did?

[QUOTE=Xonax;40946324]But I thought you didn't threaten her? Or do they still believe you did?[/QUOTE] that's why he was in jail you silly billy!

Man White, you sound like the best guy ever. And you'll definitely be one of the few facepunch members that I'll remember for a long time to come. From all the posts I've read of you in this thread, I really do believe that you'll make a good father. Just hope the mother would see it this way too. The entire jail experience kind of reminds me of my own mandatory military experience. The orders, shitty food, fucked up time schedules. But the atmosphere of a jail must be completely different. How did your parents take all this?

What was the first thing you did when you got out?

[QUOTE=Megafan;40946297]Though, I am curious, what about the VAWA would have gotten you convicted? No portion of that law requires or provides any kind of auto-conviction so long as a woman testifies. And besides, if your (or the attorney's) concern was over whether or not a jury would be convinced you were guilty, the VAWA would have nothing to do with that anyway.[/QUOTE] Everyone I was in jail with told me the same thing my attorney told me, OJ fucked it up for everyone. If I took it to trial all it would take is for the jury to be convinced that I was a wifebeater and they would of convicted me guilty. All she had to do was get up their and start crying and I would of lost it would of been a done deal. It's not about rights or fairness. Watching Law & Order is no where near what the justice system is like. I don't know everything about the VAWA I just know that it is the reason why I had to take my deal or I would of been a goner.

[QUOTE=White;40946153] I'm just going to let her raise him since she is a good mother she just wanted me out of her life.[/QUOTE] That's a pretty fucking creepy way to keep someone out of your life, isn't it? I still don't clearly understand, on what basis did they file the charges? I suppose it also was your ex who did this?

[QUOTE=White;40946360]Everyone I was in jail with told me the same thing my attorney told me, OJ fucked it up for everyone. If I took it to trial all it would take is for the jury to be convinced that I was a wifebeater and they would of convicted me guilty. All she had to do was get up their and start crying and I would of lost it would of been a done deal. It's not about rights or fairness. Watching Law & Order is no where near what the justice system is like. I don't know everything about the VAWA I just know that it is the reason why I had to take my deal or I would of been a goner.[/QUOTE] I'm by no means saying that it is like a TV drama, and there may well be some other legal precedent for being convicted on testimony alone, but I am telling you there is no provision I know of in the VAWA that would require your conviction. By the sound of it, and assuming your attorney was being honest with you, it wasn't fair, but don't blame some piece of legislation without a good reason.

[QUOTE=booster;40946341]Man White, you sound like the best guy ever. And you'll definitely be one of the few facepunch members that I'll remember for a long time to come. From all the posts I've read of you in this thread, I really do believe that you'll make a good father. Just hope the mother would see it this way too. The entire jail experience kind of reminds me of my own mandatory military experience. The orders, shitty food, fucked up time schedules. But the atmosphere of a jail must be completely different. How did your parents take all this?[/QUOTE] My parents and my family all showed up to every single one of my court dates. They were crying at my court dates because the judge would state the maximum potential of all my charges and my family and especially my parents didn't take it well. I had contact with my parents through the jail phones and they were always telling me they were praying for me and I should fight my case and take it to trial. Even my attorney spoke with my parents and eventually I accepted the fact I had no chance in trial so I took the deal and my mother was the only one present when I did and she was crying hysterically which made me shed a few tears in court today. My family is upset with me for taking the deal but they understand now how much stress I was under for thinking prison was a possibility for me If I didn't. The DA's job is to scare people into taking deals whether guilty or not. They won they scared me good and now they have me by the balls but I'll slide through this probation likes this never happened. All they care about is conviction rate and money.

[QUOTE=White;40946383]My parents and my family all showed up to every single one of my court dates. They were crying at my court dates because the judge would state the maximum potential of all my charges and my family and especially my parents didn't take it well. I had contact with my parents through the jail phones and they were always telling me they were praying for me and I should fight my case and take it to trial. Even my attorney spoke with my parents and eventually I accepted the fact I had no chance in trial so I took the deal and my mother was the only one present when I did and she was crying hysterically which made me shed a few tears in court today. My family is upset with me for taking the deal but they understand now how much stress I was under for thinking prison was a possibility for me If I didn't. The DA's job is to scare people into taking deals whether guilty or not. They won they scared me good and now they have me by the balls but I'll slide through this probation likes this never happened. All they care about is conviction rate and money.[/QUOTE] Oh man you really were in a shitty situation. But you sound like a very goodhearted person so I believe you'll make it. Godspeed man!

[QUOTE=NitronikALT;40946372]That's a pretty fucking creepy way to keep someone out of your life, isn't it? I still don't clearly understand, on what basis did they file the charges? I suppose it also was your ex who did this?[/QUOTE] We got in an arguement over our financial issues and how she wasn't getting the things she wanted and 'deserved'. I left to go vent to one of my friends about how hard my life was and then I came home to my stuff in bags so we started to argue again. She then pulled out a knife and told me I had to leave and to never come back. I didnt take her bluff and called her pathetic and many other names, she then started slashing the furniture I just bought and was yelling out how cheap and pathetic I was and how I was never a man and never will be for my son or our family. I left the apartment and told her I was going to file for custody for our son because she was lazy and was an unfit mother because shes never worked a day in her life. Later that night police showed up at my mothers house with a K9 Unit and tackled me to the ground. I was taken into custody and they recorded my statement which was the officer questioning me on what had happened. Apparently my ex told the officer I held a knife to her throat and told her I was going to kill her, then i prevented her from using her cell phone and blocked her from the doors. She also stated that I slashed the couches aggressivley and told her I was going to take her life. I was charged with: Imprisonment Child Endangerment Assault with a deadly weapon Assault to cause harm or serious bodily injury Terrorist Threats Domestic Violance Thats how it all started and thats how I'm where I'm at now. My attorney told me I had no chance with a case like this because if she was to appear at trial and testify I would of been done for because she set me up perfectly and somewhat intelligently.

[QUOTE=White;40946436]We got in an arguement over our financial issues and how she wasn't getting the things she wanted and 'deserved'. I left to go vent to one of my friends about how hard my life was and then I came home to my stuff in bags so we started to argue again. She then pulled out a knife and told me I had to leave and to never come back. I didnt take her bluff and called her pathetic and many other names, she then started slashing the furniture I just bought and was yelling out how cheap and pathetic I was and how I was never a man and never will be for my son or our family. I left the apartment and told her I was going to file for custody for our son because she was lazy and was an unfit mother because shes never worked a day in her life. Later that night police showed up at my mothers house with a K9 Unit and tackled me to the ground. I was taken into custody and they recorded my statement which was the officer questioning me on what had happened. Apparently my ex told the officer I held a knife to her throat and told her I was going to kill her, then i prevented her from using her cell phone and blocked her from the doors. She also stated that I slashed the couches aggressivley and told her I was going to take her life. I was charged with: Imprisonment Child Endangerment Assault with a deadly weapon Assault to cause harm or serious bodily injury Terrorist Threats Domestic Violance Thats how it all started and thats how I'm where I'm at now. My attorney told me I had no chance with a case like this because if she was to appear at trial and testify I would of been done for because she set me up perfectly and somewhat intelligently.[/QUOTE] Will you ever be able to see your son again?

[QUOTE=Sommoch;40946468]Will you ever be able to see your son again?[/QUOTE] You know honestly I thought It would be better If I just stayed out of his life. Why? Because I didn't want to have to witness my ex with another man. I didn't want to witness my son calling this man dad. It would of killed me. Now I've realized the bigger picture, It's not about my feelings or stuipd jealousy. It's about my son knowing who is real father is and being happy. It's about not living a lie and staying true in what I believe is right.

[QUOTE=White;40946490]You know honestly I thought It would be better If I just stayed out of his life. Why? Because I didn't want to have to witness my ex with another man. I didn't want to witness my son calling this man dad. It would of killed me. Now I've realized the bigger picture, It's not about my feelings or stuipd jealousy. It's about my son knowing who is real father is and being happy. It's about not living a lie and staying true in what I believe is right.[/QUOTE] Just make sure his mother isn't spewing lies about you to him. Because that shit just would just be ugly.

Prison seems really childish.. especially the racism parts. Your new friends seem really cool though.

[QUOTE=booster;40946523]Just make sure his mother isn't spewing lies about you to him. Because that shit just would just be ugly.[/QUOTE] Hopefully we can reconsile as friends and push this hard time behind us like mature adults. I hope she doesn't do anything like that because it would only make it harder on him other then helping anybody. I'm sure we can work things out as friends. [editline]8th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Errorproxy;40946531]Prison seems really childish.. especially the racism parts. Your new friends seem really cool though.[/QUOTE] It's just the ignorant people that make it childish, the men only care about respect.

[QUOTE=White;40946436] Thats how it all started and thats how I'm where I'm at now. My attorney told me I had no chance with a case like this because if she was to appear at trial and testify I would of been done for because she set me up perfectly and somewhat intelligently.[/QUOTE] Is it okay for you to talk about it outside of court?

[QUOTE=Warriorx4;40946564]Is it okay for you to talk about it outside of court?[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter anymore my case is closed since I plead guilty to domestic violance.

I like Curry, he wants to fight racist people. What in the world did you do to push your ex into reporting you to the police. Even worse, making up lies.

[QUOTE=Errorproxy;40946575]I like Curry, he wants to fight racist people. What in the world did you do to push your ex into reporting you to the police. Even worse, making up lies.[/QUOTE] A very unhealthy relationship and denying it wasn't going to work. I just wanted my son to have his real parents unlike I did, turns out that's not going to happen for the best. The way I look at it is things happen for a reason sometimes and this was something that had to happen before something worst happened. Just have to keep moving forward and forget about the past.

[QUOTE=White;40946596]A very unhealthy relationship and denying it wasn't going to work. I just wanted my son to have his real parents unlike I did, turns out that's not going to happen for the best. The way I look at it is things happen for a reason sometimes and this was something that had to happen before something worst happened. Just have to keep moving forward and forget about the past.[/QUOTE] Didn't the cops take prints on the fucking knife? Seriously.

Why vent to facepunch?

[QUOTE=Warriorx4;40946604]Why vent to facepunch?[/QUOTE] I don't think White has many friends. He just got out of prison.. If I ever go to prison. I'm going to so swole, if not dead.. You guys didn't have workout time?

Got any interesting stories you heard from other inmates?

[QUOTE=Keyblockor;40946602]Didn't the cops take prints on the fucking knife? Seriously.[/QUOTE] there was no need, it's easier to just say "well, he must have done it" than spend time and resources to find out if it was really him [sp]and that's really fucked up[/sp]