Unpopular Opinions V6 You know maybe fascism wasn't all that it was cracked up to be
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I don't think voting should be mandatory but it should be much easier to go out and vote. Make the day a national holiday, have a vote by mail system, etc...
[QUOTE=EuSKalduna;49913171]Then spread the voting process over a manageable amount of time. Also, at what point do you draw the line for someone to be able to vote? Because that really is a slippery slope.[/QUOTE]
There can't be a point, because no system would be safe from corruption.
But ideally, there would be a test covering topics such as finance and history, and your score would influence your vote's weighted value. People who know more should count for more. People who don't actually know what socialism is should not be given much attention when deciding whether or not to support its practice. The system could also take into account things like community service. If someone volunteers in a soup kitchen, they probably have valuable perspectives on poverty. If they clean litter on weekends, they've earned value by showing social responsibility.
The idea is that the best people should be the ones most in charge. Unfortunately, the actual power would go to the guy who writes the test.
Anyway, my point is that democracy is not valuable because of its effectiveness as a tool, it's valuable because it gives people freedom over their own destiny - and making voting mandatory is absolutely a step backwards away from that.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49912824]while we're on the topic of insane opinions, I am absolutely bewildered by the fact that people think vaccines should be legally required. Really? you don't think giving the government the power to forcibly inject people sets a bad precedent? (I'm looking at you, reddit.)[/QUOTE]
What do you think the government is going to inject you with? And more importantly, why?
[QUOTE=Blazedol;49913377]What do you think the government is going to inject you with? And more importantly, why?[/QUOTE]
I believe human beings should have a right to bodily autonomy. I do not believe that anyone should ever be forced to receive invasive medical treatment, nor should they be prevented from doing anything to their own bodies.
Furthermore, I do not believe in the use of policy-through-force. People should be encouraged to hold a sense of social responsibility, and they should be rewarded for actions that benefit the public, but they should not be forced to take any action at the whim of the government.
As to your original question, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States]did you miss my link, wherein is detailed a staggering number of cases of people being unknowingly or forcibly subjected to everything from plutonium to dioxins to virulent diseases in the name of state-funded or state-organized research?[/url]
I am the only person I trust when it comes to making medical decisions for myself. I do not trust the same organizations that have been violating basic human decency for hundreds of years.
I do not believe that vaccination programs are secretly sinister experimentation clinics, but I am not [i]ever[/i] going to give up my ability to opt out of them, and I would not make that decision for anyone else.
Medically modifying people against their will is exactly on-par with eugenics in the category of "ideas that can be presented very nicely but are fundamentally horrifying."
[QUOTE=Bathtub;49888630]Wall-E is the best Pixar movie
Yes, even better than Toy Story[/QUOTE]
Excuse me?
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Life is Strange was extremely boring for me. There were some moments in it that caught my attention, but past that, it was kinda mediocre.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;49913518]Excuse me?
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Incredibles is tied with UP to be my 2nd favorite.
I hate it when people order boring ass pizzas, like there's more in the world of pizza than pepperoni ffs
[QUOTE=GarbageCan;49914196]I hate it when people order boring ass pizzas, like there's more in the world of pizza than pepperoni ffs[/QUOTE]
i have tried many pizza combinations and i cannot find one i like more than simple cheese and sauce
[QUOTE=GarbageCan;49914196]I hate it when people order boring ass pizzas, like there's more in the world of pizza than pepperoni ffs[/QUOTE]
My favourite one is pmuch a deep dish where someone dumped the contents of a shawarma on, it's fucking good.
Voting in the US shouldn't be compulsory, however, voting days should be national holidays and caucuses should be abolished, so that if you want to vote, you have ample time to do it, in addition to mail voting. Along with that, there should be a very cheap/or essentially free way to get a basic ID card mailed to you for states with voter ID laws, as of right now a drivers license is considered the easiest and most common kind of ID to have, but not everyone has or can even afford one. I hate compulsory voting, but feel that the process should be made as easy as possible to partake in.
[QUOTE=GarbageCan;49914196]I hate it when people order boring ass pizzas, like there's more in the world of pizza than pepperoni ffs[/QUOTE]
I'm an extremist, it better be cheese only, or you better do something interesting.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49913475]Medically modifying people against their will is exactly on-par with eugenics in the category of "ideas that can be presented very nicely but are fundamentally horrifying."[/QUOTE]
what's horrifying is that someone would take a bunch of fringe cases from before the 80s as the natural conclusion to mandatory vaccination
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49914341]what's horrifying is that someone would take a bunch of fringe cases from before the 80s as the natural conclusion to mandatory vaccination[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49913475][sp]I do not believe that vaccination programs are secretly sinister experimentation clinics[/sp][/quote]
well, you skipped over most of the post and put words in my mouth, but I'm gonna give you a B for effort
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49914423]well, you skipped over most of the post and put words in my mouth, but I'm gonna give you a B for effort[/QUOTE]
So you're not a conspiracy nut, just someone who uses the same arguments born out of the same unwarranted fear to achieve the same ends. Wow yeah that sure changes everything
[QUOTE=GarbageCan;49914196]I hate it when people order boring ass pizzas, like there's more in the world of pizza than pepperoni ffs[/QUOTE]
A meat pizza with pineapple is the best kind.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;49914878]A meat pizza with pineapple is the best kind.[/QUOTE]
:sick:
The one time I liked pineapple on pizza is when I tried a pizza with barbecue sauce, chicken, pineapple, and no cheese. It came together surprisingly well.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;49914587]So you're not a conspiracy nut, just someone who uses the same arguments born out of the same unwarranted fear to achieve the same ends. Wow yeah that sure changes everything[/QUOTE]
Let me put it this way: I think the right to self-determination is ideologically more important than human lives.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49915474]Let me put it this way: I think the right to self-determination is ideologically more important than human lives.[/QUOTE]
"The right for me to endanger fellow human lives for no reason better than because I can is more important than the very life I have, as well as the one's shared by millions of others."
Am not putting words in your mouth mate; you literally just admitted it. You are morally bankrupt
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49915474]Let me put it this way: I think the right to self-determination is ideologically more important than human lives.[/QUOTE]
is this right more important than the lives of millions?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49915560]is this right more important than the lives of millions?[/QUOTE]
everyone dies, no matter what. they should have the right to write their own story before they do.
[QUOTE=Sector 7;49915644]everyone dies, no matter what. they should have the right to write their own story before they do.[/QUOTE]
write their own story? nigga we're talking about a public program used to stop the spread of infectious disease not a creative writing class
why should the right of a few retards who don't want to be vaccinated trump the right of millions of people who could die from these diseases?
The Wire has to be one of the most boring shows I've ever seen in my life.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;49912931]Mandatory voting is an atrocious idea. You can't force people to care and forcing them to vote when they don't care will just end up with a lot more people voting randomly or badly just to spite the system. An actual solution would be giving people a reason to care. Making them feel like their vote actually does matter for example.[/QUOTE]
While you can't force everyone to care you can capture all the people who would have voted for a candidate who reflects their values but were unable to for [I]xyz[/I] reasons.
Essentially the idea behind mandatory voting is that the benefit of compelling everyone to vote means that the instances of people voting randomly/donkey-voting is outweighed by the people who vote correctly but typically wouldn't if it were voluntary.
What ends up happening is a higher amount of informal voting offset by a 90%+ turnout, resulting in an election which more closely reflects the values of the country.
controversial opinion: mandatory voting actually owns
[QUOTE=RichyZ;49915762]i'm sure the children and toddlers that died from an easily avoidable disease had quite the story written by the time they succumbed to it
i'm sure the parents did too "dear diary, i didn't let evil gubberment put POISON in my childs veins and now they're dead :("[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;49915679]write their own story? nigga we're talking about a public program used to stop the spread of infectious disease not a creative writing class
why should the right of a few retards who don't want to be vaccinated trump the right of millions of people who could die from these diseases?[/QUOTE]
the... millions? roughly 30,000 people die from flu-related complications (usually respiratory inhibition) yearly, the vast majority of which are older than 65. This isn't "millions" of innocent toddlers dropping dead from an easily preventable disease;
the number of annual childhood flu-related fatalities is about 97.
so: flu vaccination is already very popular; deaths are very low, and almost all of them are among the demographic which is already looking for an excuse to clock out.
You're saying we should give one of the most unpopular governments in the Western world - the one which was knowingly performing crimes against humanity only forty years ago - the power to [i]force medical procedures on people,[/i] in order to save .2 out of every 100,000 children?
how about this: educate the public about vaccines, make them easily available, and let nature take its course. we already do that, and the system works completely fine.
There's this thing called "Herd immunity" that we need for the very very important vaccines like measles. Not everyone can safely get a vaccine medically and it's everyone else duty to vaccinate themselves so those who can't get vaccinated won't have to suffer and potentially die. Flu vaccine is different from stuff like measles which we could easily wipe out if people just got vaccinated.
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while we're on the topic of insane opinions, I am absolutely bewildered by the fact that people think vaccines should be legally required. Really? you don't think giving the government the power to forcibly inject people sets a bad precedent? (I'm looking at you, reddit.)[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot but I hope you change your mind in the future after educating yourself.
[QUOTE=Badballer;49916792]You're an idiot[/QUOTE]
I agree with this.
Sorry for the flaming, but anti vaxxers are where I lose it a bit. I'll edit my post.
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