Unpopular Opinions V6 You know maybe fascism wasn't all that it was cracked up to be
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[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930512]Kid gets a good life and society benefits overall. It's just a side effect of my main point anyways.
I believe bringing a kid into the world into substandard conditions is the most selfish thing you can do in life. To pass them your mental problems or not have enough money to feed them or just straight up abuse them.
So some people benefit from shitty childhoods so that makes it okay for everyone.[/QUOTE]
"So some people didn't benefit from shitty childhoods so that makes it okay."
Shit argument.
It's already beyond extreme difficulty to perform mental health care and you want do apply a licencing law to something that is completely impracticable, that is absolutely asinine.
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If you think it's easy to diagnose mental health and that money solves all problems, take a look at Robin Williams and all the other successful and seemingly mental stable people that ended up in the gutter.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930512]Kid gets a good life and society benefits overall. It's just a side effect of my main point anyways.
I believe bringing a kid into the world into substandard conditions is the most selfish thing you can do in life. To pass them your mental problems or not have enough money to feed them or just straight up abuse them.
[editline]22nd August 2016[/editline]
So some people benefit from shitty childhoods so that makes it okay for everyone.[/QUOTE]
Even if what you're planning would arguably bring about benefits, can you imagine the nightmare that would be actually enforcing a law like that? How would you legally stop people from screwing?
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930512]
So some people benefit from shitty childhoods so that makes it okay for everyone.[/QUOTE]
Ok so how do you predict that someone might not lose a job. How do you predict that a parent might die. How do you predict if a school gets shut down. How do you predict if there's serious financial collapse. How do you predict if there's a major natural disaster. How do you predict if the child themselves will develop mental issues, regardless of upbringing.
Also, what makes you so sure that [I]your[/I] standards are so good? Whenever these arguments come up, they almost always become Neo-Nazi, niche, imaginary groups that are <1% of the population
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50930557]"So some people didn't benefit from shitty childhoods so that makes it okay."
Shit argument.
It's already beyond extreme difficulty to perform mental health care and you want do apply a licencing law to something that is completely impracticable, that is absolutely asinine.
[editline]22nd August 2016[/editline]
If you think it's easy to diagnose mental health and that money solves all problems, take a look at Robin Williams and all the other successful and seemingly mental stable people that ended up in the gutter.[/QUOTE]
Shit argument? So you think its okay? And you're arguing how hard it is to implement, not the idea itself.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930682]Shit argument? So you think its okay? And you're arguing how hard it is to implement, not the idea itself.[/QUOTE]
Ok here:
The idea is shit. It's just shit. Your idea is downright retarded. It's really fucking retarded. The idea that the government should have the right to tell someone to abandon a natural instinct is shit. It's not a "good idea", it's a Nazi idea. IT's good to stop races from breeding, or ideological groups from breeding, or whoever you just don't happen to like. It's a stupid idea because all it does is make people who maybe are trying, or will love their kids, not have that opportunity. Rich kids can be shit, poor kids can be shit, both can be good too. It's pretty obvious that this idea of yours comes from some preconception that your parents drilled into your head.
Want to stop kids from growing up in awful situations? How about instead of violating natural rights, you build up better infrastructure for those children to live in.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930682]And you're arguing how hard it is to implement, not the idea itself.[/QUOTE]
I did both.
Want to stop people from having unwanted children? How about fund better sex education? How about not defunding Planned Parenthood so people an understand waht they'd need to do to have a child?
Like the mental gymnastics to get to the idea of "parent licensing" is so immense, you'd get the gold in the special olympics.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930682]Shit argument? So you think its okay? And you're arguing how hard it is to implement, not the idea itself.[/QUOTE]
implementation is 90% of any idea
Want to whine about kids not having a good time growing up? Why are you talking about implementing it somewhere like Canada or the US?
Why not fucking Eritrea? Burma? The Congo?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50930742]Want to whine about kids not having a good time growing up? Why are you talking about implementing it somewhere like Canada or the US?
Why not fucking Eritrea? Burma? The Congo?[/QUOTE]
"Kids not having a good time growing up"
You don't have a single clue about bad childhoods. Not even remotely.
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[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;50930694]Ok here:
The idea is shit. It's just shit. Your idea is downright retarded. It's really fucking retarded. The idea that the government should have the right to tell someone to abandon a natural instinct is shit. It's not a "good idea", it's a Nazi idea. IT's good to stop races from breeding, or ideological groups from breeding, or whoever you just don't happen to like. It's a stupid idea because all it does is make people who maybe are trying, or will love their kids, not have that opportunity. Rich kids can be shit, poor kids can be shit, both can be good too. It's pretty obvious that this idea of yours comes from some preconception that your parents drilled into your head.
Want to stop kids from growing up in awful situations? How about instead of violating natural rights, you build up better infrastructure for those children to live in.[/QUOTE]
Humans have the natural instinct to fuck each other but rape is illegal. Darn that meddling government. And I said nothing nor did I have any intents about race.
You seem to know a lot despite not being able to defend your own idea.
Maybe, just maybe, it's flawed.
Instead of presenting prohibitions and restraints, how about providing a better world for civilization, now that's a good idea.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50930710]I did both.[/QUOTE]
"Some people turn out okay so therefore its a non issue"
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930752]Humans have the natural instinct to fuck each other but rape is illegal. Darn that meddling government. And I said nothing nor did I have any intents about race.[/QUOTE]
Humans have the natural instinct to fuck each other when they have a mutual agreement, what the fuck is wrong with you lmao
when someone rapes a person, that's only one person's actions, the other didn't agree, natural instinct didn't act up and say, "this guy wants to fuck me so i'll let him." you goof
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930752]
Humans have the natural instinct to fuck each other but rape is illegal[/QUOTE]
Hahaha what the fuck is wrong with you
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930771]"Some people turn out okay so therefore its a non issue"[/QUOTE]
I wrote that robin williams fit into your criteria and still fucking killed himself and you say this?
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930752]"Kids not having a good time growing up"
You don't have a single clue about bad childhoods. Not even remotely.
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you're supposed to nail yourself to the cross WAY earlier in the argument
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930752]"Kids not having a good time growing up"
You don't have a single clue about bad childhoods. Not even remotely.
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[b]Humans have the natural instinct to fuck each other but rape is illegal[/b]. Darn that meddling government. And I said nothing nor did I have any intents about race.[/QUOTE]
:why:
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930771]"Some people turn out okay so therefore its a non issue"[/QUOTE]
Just cause somebody doesn't agree with your radical unethical "solution" doesn't mean they're saying it's a non issue.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930771]"Some people turn out okay so therefore its a non issue"[/QUOTE]
I didn't say it wasn't an issue. Quote me where I said children growing in bad conditions was not an issue.
I'm arguing that your idea is impracticable.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50930773]Humans have the natural instinct to fuck each other when they have a mutual agreement, what the fuck is wrong with you lmao
when someone rapes a person, that's only one person's actions, the other didn't agree, natural instinct didn't act up and say, "this guy wants to fuck me so i'll let him." you goof[/QUOTE]
There were over 80 thousand rape charges in the US in 2013. You say everyone thinks its a mutual agreement? There's a reason why the government has to set laws for this shit, because some people can't control themselves. Some people need to be governed.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930861]There were over 80 thousand rape charges in the US in 2013. You say everyone thinks its a mutual agreement? There's a reason why the government has to set laws for this shit, because some people can't control themselves. Some people need to be governed.[/QUOTE]
where are you even going with this? people do rapes, so fuck it, open season on human rights? your misanthropy is starting to show.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;50930846]I didn't say it wasn't an issue. Quote me where I said children growing in bad conditions was not an issue.
I'm arguing that your idea is impracticable.[/QUOTE]
There are going to be cases, like Robin Williams and others where a positive upbringing maybe wouldn't guarantee anything later in life.
But I feel like you're giving them a much better chance when they do grow up with all their needs met and emotional stability. I added mental illness because who wants to grow up with schizophrenia or some other awful problem that plagues your existence?
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930861]There were over 80 thousand rape charges in the US in 2013. You say everyone thinks its a mutual agreement? There's a reason why the government has to set laws for this shit, because some people can't control themselves. Some people need to be governed.[/QUOTE]
Explain how you plan to hold people accountable for having an unregistered pregnancy. Does the government forcefully abort the child? What if the child is already born? What are the requirements for being a parent, too? How do you judge a good parent or a bad one? Is it by income or criminal record? Or maybe by IQ?
You're not really saying much and being combative when questioned, which gives me the idea that you don't really have much of an argument and just think "Make some laws, that'll fix child abuse"
[QUOTE=Sector 7;50930877]where are you even going with this? people do rapes, so fuck it, open season on human rights? your misanthropy is starting to show.[/QUOTE]
Not everyone should be unihibted to act on "instincts".
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930861]There were over 80 thousand rape charges in the US in 2013. You say everyone thinks its a mutual agreement? There's a reason why the government has to set laws for this shit, because some people can't control themselves. Some people need to be governed.[/QUOTE]
I understand you're completely lost when you're using a person sexually violating another as an argument for restricting a couple mutually deciding to have a child.
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930894]Not everyone should be unihibted to act on "instincts".[/QUOTE]
So a pair of loving, caring individuals are now no longer to have a child because the government says they don't meet some arbitrary rules?
Good lord what is wrong with you
Some questions for you.
1. Who decides on the criterias for being allowed to have kids?
2. How do you enforce it?
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;50930892]Explain how you plan to hold people accountable for having an unregistered pregnancy. Does the government forcefully abort the child? What if the child is already born? What are the requirements for being a parent, too? How do you judge a good parent or a bad one? Is it by income or criminal record? Or maybe by IQ?
You're not really saying much and being combative when questioned, which gives me the idea that you don't really have much of an argument and just think "Make some laws, that'll fix child abuse"[/QUOTE]
Because even I think it would be impossible to implement and cause uproar so whats the point of going into details. It's the idea itself which I support, I have no idea how it would be implemented.
I don't think a bit of control would hurt
A lot of children don't deserve the fucked up families they're born into, a lot of people aren't good enough to be parents, and each year we're shorter on resources to keep our standards
[QUOTE=No_Excuses;50930915]Because even I think it would be impossible to implement and cause uproar so whats the point of going into details. It's the idea itself which I support, I have no idea how it would be implemented.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't that launch an alarm in your brain saying that your idea is bad then
"I don't have any clue how this works but I support it."
what the fuck
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