Unpopular Opinions V6 You know maybe fascism wasn't all that it was cracked up to be - General

also "the feels" is a really annoying phrase that I wish would go away

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51081408]Most people who claim to have anxiety actually don't and just are weak people who can't handle normal stress. Oh you get anxiety when you have to talk infront of others? So does literally everyone else in the world[/QUOTE] this is an excellent way to tell the world that you do not understand anxiety/any form of mental illness in the slightest

Kojima is overrated

[QUOTE=redBadger;51081760]Kojima is overrated[/QUOTE] love him or hate him, kojima is a true innovator, which makes him a fucking treasure. 90% of video games are complete creative garbage, whether they take the form of yearly-release franchise AAA titles or worthless unfinished indie minecraft clones; any game that sticks its neck out for a creative payoff is automatically upgraded to a higher tier of the art, and all of Kojima's games do that.

[QUOTE=Maddog's Here;51080690]Deadpool was good, better then antman imo[/QUOTE] I haven't watched Antman but I thought Deadpool was kinda boring honestly. They chose a fantastic actor to fill the role of Deadpool and the premise of the story was interesting but the majority of the movie ended up feeling far too aimless.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51081823]I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm saying a lot of people like to use it as an excuse not to overcome basic stress. I think it stems from not being used to stress, so when you do have it, you don't know how to overcome or manage it.[/QUOTE] there is a massive difference between what you are saying here and what your original post said. people romanticizing mental illness (anxiety too if you count it) is an actual issue, i dont think many would disagree with you on that.

democracy as a whole is almost entirely nonfunctional in a modern environment.

[QUOTE=Bathtub;51081877]there is a massive difference between what you are saying here and what your original post said. people romanticizing mental illness (anxiety too if you count it) is an actual issue, i dont think many would disagree with you on that.[/QUOTE] It's not so much romanticizing as using the fact that mental illness exists as an excuse for actual failings in one's actions without necessarily having or even knowing the effects of the mental illness one is citing. Chronic anxiety is a real and extremely debilitating thing to have, but if everyone who refused to do something stressful citing this kind of anxiety then that would make it much more common than it's actually found to be. Actual anxiety disorders don't just manifest as not wanting to talk to people, if you actually had one you'd be in a constant state of tense nervousness and having normal thought and emotional patterns would be extremely difficult. Basically, having anxiety is an actual thing that should be respected, however just being a pussy is also a thing (though assuming the latter is more harmful than assuming the former)

I feel like words like humane and dehumanizing are kinda stupid, but it's less to do with their general meanings and more to do with how "human" seems forced and hamfisted in these words. Not all humans tend to show much empathy, and it's not like there's no possibility that some other species are capable of empathy. Similarly, I think it's sad that people feel the need to call someone subhuman for doing something abhorrent when calling them out on said action and condemning them for it should have been perfectly sufficient for them.

I think the horseshoe theory is total ass

[QUOTE=Solomon;51081886]democracy as a whole is almost entirely nonfunctional in a modern environment.[/QUOTE] Direct democracy is definitely a terrible thing

[QUOTE=Matthew0505;51082580]Half-assed attempts at direct democracy are definitely a terrible thing. Referendums are only as good as the education provided by whichever party is voted in.[/QUOTE] How can you make a half-assed attempt at direct democracy?

[QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;51082190]I think the horseshoe theory is total ass[/QUOTE] both the sickle and the swastika are stained with blood

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;51082765]both the sickle and the swastika are stained with blood[/QUOTE] This is the stupid mindset I was exactly talking about. Both sides have completely different theory, one advocates abolishment of capitalism entirely and the other advocates corporatism. One advocated total genocide of almost every other single race on this planet, and the other just advocates for a new economic system in the future. Saying both are the same because they 'killed people' is completely stupid. Neoliberal capitalism has killed far more than the state capitalist regimes of the USSR or China, and neoliberal capitalism has most certainly killed more than actual socialist societies that existed. Point me to a part of Marx's theory where it directly says "murder millions of people" then point me to a text of Hitler that says "remove the jews" Then you can see why the horseshoe theory is ass.

[QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;51083034]This is the stupid mindset I was exactly talking about. Both sides have completely different theory, one advocates abolishment of capitalism entirely and the other advocates corporatism. One advocated total genocide of almost every other single race on this planet, and the other just advocates for a new economic system in the future. Saying both are the same because they 'killed people' is completely stupid. Neoliberal capitalism has killed far more than the state capitalist regimes of the USSR or China, and neoliberal capitalism has most certainly killed more than actual socialist societies that existed. Point me to a part of Marx's theory where it directly says "murder millions of people" then point me to a text of Hitler that says "remove the jews" Then you can see why the horseshoe theory is ass.[/QUOTE] It really isn't Saying "blacks are inferior and should be separated from the whites" and "blacks are a minority to be protected therefore lets make black only campuses" is exactly the same: promoting segregation

[QUOTE=Solomon;51081886]democracy as a whole is almost entirely nonfunctional in a modern environment.[/QUOTE] People don't know what they want. Politics is such a huge and nuanced subject with hundreds of conflicting ideas and plans, and its hard to get that all through the head of the average johnny.

[QUOTE=Samiam22;51083352]People don't know what they want. Politics is such a huge and nuanced subject with hundreds of conflicting ideas and plans, and its hard to get that all through the head of the average johnny.[/QUOTE] It's not just about what they want, but what they need as well and you can't expect a populace to make an informed decision about everything

[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;51083364]and you can't expect a populace to make an informed decision about everything[/QUOTE] I know, and that's why democracy doesn't really work. This is actually why the electoral college first came into being, if I recall correctly. They'd vote for the presidential candidates instead of the people themselves because they actually knew what they were doing, and thus would be able to avoid any obvious bad choice. Kinda backfired when these days, they will always vote for what their state votes for, and it just ended up in a mathematically unfair voting system.

[QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;51083034]This is the stupid mindset I was exactly talking about. Both sides have completely different theory, one advocates abolishment of capitalism entirely and the other advocates corporatism. One advocated total genocide of almost every other single race on this planet, and the other just advocates for a new economic system in the future. Saying both are the same because they 'killed people' is completely stupid. Neoliberal capitalism has killed far more than the state capitalist regimes of the USSR or China, and neoliberal capitalism has most certainly killed more than actual socialist societies that existed. Point me to a part of Marx's theory where it directly says "murder millions of people" then point me to a text of Hitler that says "remove the jews" Then you can see why the horseshoe theory is ass.[/QUOTE] The issue isn't necessarily that they're both evil, it's just that at their extremes they use the same tactics to accomplish their goals. I.E. creating seperate dorms for black students and white students for "promoting racial equality" vs "promoting racial purity" or more recently Trump's Skittle analogy which is the exact same analogy used by the extreme left.

[QUOTE=Firefox42;51083390]The issue isn't necessarily that they're both evil, it's just that at their extremes they use the same tactics to accomplish their goals. I.E. creating seperate dorms for black students and white students for "promoting racial equality" vs "promoting racial purity" or more recently Trump's Skittle analogy which is the exact same analogy used by the extreme left.[/QUOTE] Neoliberal aren't "extreme-left" Most far leftists (Anarchists or Communists etc) care very little about race identity politics , and instead focus on the economic side of the world. [QUOTE=SebiWarrior;51083298]It really isn't Saying "blacks are inferior and should be separated from the whites" and "blacks are a minority to be protected therefore lets make black only campuses" is exactly the same: promoting segregation[/QUOTE] You're confusing actual leftists and neoliberal tards.

[QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;51083407]Neoliberal aren't "extreme-left" Most far leftists (Anarchists or Communists etc) care very little about race identity politics , and instead focus on the economic side of the world. You're confusing actual leftists and neoliberal tards.[/QUOTE] And you're confusing the horseshoe theory It doesn't say "left and right issues are the exact same" but "if you go far enough in whichever way, you'll end up in the same place"

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51081408]Most people who claim to have anxiety actually don't and just are weak people who can't handle normal stress. Oh you get anxiety when you have to talk infront of others? So does literally everyone else in the world[/QUOTE] congrats on actually posting an unpopular opinion for once unfortunately it's also really stupid, oh well

[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;51083424]And you're confusing the horseshoe theory It doesn't say "left and right issues are the exact same" but "if you go far enough in whichever way, you'll end up in the same place"[/QUOTE] I see. Most context I've seen it in is when people say "Socialism!=Hitler" I'll try looking into it further however.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;51082765]both the sickle and the swastika are stained with blood[/QUOTE] Just blood is a bad metric tho, western capitalist societies have plenty as well. Many might handwave it away as "that's cronyism using the state to violently achieve corporations' goals!" but a lot of leftists and fascists will do the same.

[QUOTE=EdvardSchnitz;51083034]This is the stupid mindset I was exactly talking about. Both sides have completely different theory, one advocates abolishment of capitalism entirely and the other advocates corporatism. One advocated total genocide of almost every other single race on this planet, and the other just advocates for a new economic system in the future. Saying both are the same because they 'killed people' is completely stupid. Neoliberal capitalism has killed far more than the state capitalist regimes of the USSR or China, and neoliberal capitalism has most certainly killed more than actual socialist societies that existed.[/QUOTE] "capitalism" (whatever that is) is just a set of broadly associated economic policies - it is a useful tool for administering an economy things like communism and fascism have in common that both are inherently political ideologies. the economic system of most of the western world is apolitical because the concept of trading things for other things isn't political - it's a piece of social technology political ideologies meanwhile advocate reforms that explicitly advocate the restructuring of a society and its laws to better fit the ideology. capitalism can exist in a dictatorship or a democracy, in a leftwing or a rightwing nation. fascism and communism can't exist in all of those [editline]21st September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=thelurker1234;51083732]Just blood is a bad metric tho, western capitalist societies have plenty as well.[/QUOTE] it's pointless to argue this as though it somehow absolves the communists of their crimes

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;51083775]"capitalism" (whatever that is) is just a set of broadly associated economic policies - it is a useful tool for administering an economy things like communism and fascism have in common that both are inherently political ideologies. the economic system of most of the western world is apolitical because the concept of trading things for other things isn't political - it's a piece of social technology political ideologies meanwhile advocate reforms that explicitly advocate the restructuring of a society and its laws to better fit the ideology. capitalism can exist in a dictatorship or a democracy, in a leftwing or a rightwing nation. fascism and communism can't exist in all of those [editline]21st September 2016[/editline] it's pointless to argue this as though it somehow absolves the communists of their crimes[/QUOTE] Communism does inherently have a state, but socialism is just like capitalism in that it's an economic theory. No word on anarcho-fascists though (I'm sure it exists, there's an anarcho-everything) I said that because a lot of people who like horseshoe theory look at it that way, stalinism killed lots of people, fascism killed lots of people.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51083786]Communism does inherently have a state, but socialism is just like capitalism in that it's an economic theory. [/QUOTE] socialism is inherently political though. the economic policies and institutions broadly classified as "capitalist" are not political - they're more like tools. they're apolitical because every functioning society utilizes them in order to administer a complex economy (or has it existing in some capacity) the soviet union couldn't even function without those very same tools, and in some way was dependent upon them (arbitrarily choosing to eschew some of them for political reasons) - as were many other complex societies ranging from the roman empire to song china and now most of the modern world

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51083786]No word on anarcho-fascists though (I'm sure it exists, there's an anarcho-everything)[/QUOTE] How in the world could that even work?

[QUOTE=Alice3173;51084549]How in the world could that even work?[/QUOTE] the same way as anarcho-capitalism [sp]it wouldn't[/sp]

the USA isn't a preposition nation