• Unpopular Opinions V6 You know maybe fascism wasn't all that it was cracked up to be
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[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51117669]Compared to Trump? Not really.[/QUOTE] Clinton is an extremely unpopular candidate that would lose against pretty much any competent republican candidate. People treated bernie more like Jesus than they treated clinton.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51117634]Still better than fucking Trump.[/QUOTE] i'd argue that's like comparing stalin to hitler who cares who's worse they're both [I]shit[/I]
[QUOTE=Blazedol;51117722]i'd argue that's like comparing stalin to hitler who cares who's worse they're both [I]shit[/I][/QUOTE] Almost everybody except the hardcore supporters of both Clinton and Trump agree with this sentiment, they're both shit, but one is clearly less shit than the other, this being Clinton
[QUOTE=RichyZ;51117732]it matters because one of them is going to be elected president regardless[/QUOTE] i'm talking about johnson and trump
Being the best of a bad situation is a good way to get laid, get a promotion, and get elected.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51117609]Had it been Johnson v. Hillary, the election would be hilariously one-sided in Johnson's favor. But, unfortunately, he didn't gunrun against the other Republicans so he's fucked[/QUOTE] Just makes me wish Biden had had the energy and will to run, policy-wise he's similar-ish to clinton but the difference is he's a likable guy. Also he probably would have been stomped in the republican primaries, rand paul was also a libertarian-ish and never got past even 5% I think
SH please go Edit: I don't know why it is unpopular to think so, but I would've rather had New Vegas continue after the end of the main quest then send you back to before you started the finale
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51118596]SH please go Edit: I don't know why it is unpopular to think so, but I would've rather had New Vegas continue after the end of the main quest then send you back to before you started the finale[/QUOTE] Normally i'd disagree... but i'm really starting to lean
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51118596]SH please go Edit: I don't know why it is unpopular to think so, but I would've rather had New Vegas continue after the end of the main quest then send you back to before you started the finale[/QUOTE] I actually like the way it ends. Gives the ending more finality, and makes you wonder what happened to the Courier, wandering away into the wastes.
on the subject of fallout, bethesda is such a frustrating company on one hand they clearly have a commitment to building huge interactive worlds but on the other hand they're just so [i]bad[/i] at it
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;51117276]Hillary Clinton ain't as bad as people make her out to be and compared to Trump, she's basically Jesus.[/QUOTE] Both of the main candidates are such human garbage in my opinion that I ended up deciding that the personal stress of hounding election news and worrying about the election was not worth the time or stress it was taking from my life, and just stopped caring or paying much attention. That'll piss off the anti-voter apathy people
Empathy towards sentient beings solely because of sentience is overrated.
When does empathy ever become a bad thing?
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51119610]When does empathy ever become a bad thing?[/QUOTE] It's not so much a bad thing as it is just that I do think that sentience just isn't really a good enough excuse for us to end various events that directly benefit humanity, such as animal farming, hunting, and more controversially, animal experimentation. Fur trapping for the sake of the fur alone and experiments for cosmetics and other luxury products is bullshit, however, and just doesn't deserve to be. I think at this point we should've just gone with synthesising what we can and "authenticity" is a poor excuse to preserve completely unnnecessary activities for the sake of money.
[QUOTE=EuSKalduna;51119629]It's not so much a bad thing as it is just that I do think that sentience just isn't really a good enough excuse for us to end various events that directly benefit humanity, such as animal farming, hunting, and more controversially, animal experimentation. Fur trapping and experiments for cosmetics and shit like that though is bullshit, and just doesn't deserve to be.[/QUOTE] Well empathy doesn't get in the way of that, it just forces you to weigh the consequences of your actions.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51119640]Well empathy doesn't get in the way of that, it just forces you to weigh the consequences of your actions.[/QUOTE] But wouldn't you say things like vegetarianism and veganism for non-medical purposes, and objections to animal testing for products that are actively beneficial are morals born out of empathy alone?
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51119696]And? We don't want to forget our humanity in our actions, do we? Part of being human is empathy.[/QUOTE] Of course, I want to make it clear I'm not some kind of emotionless drone; cruelty for the sake of cruelty is totally wrong and I firmly believe that while animal experimentation should go on, cosmetics and otherwise luxury and non-essentials don't deserve to be on the list of things that need animal testing, and instead should just find human volunteers. BUT, while I can sort of sympathise with people who want to reduce animal experimentation in extremes, and actively abstain from animal products in favour of a more complicated diet are really giving animals too much credit, and even with empathy it doesn't change the fact that we are still animals, just as much a part of the great circle of life that gave rise to strict carnivores, who subsist solely on other sentient beings, and the means to consume them are most likely far less pleasant than anything the average farm will do.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51118596] I don't know why it is unpopular to think so, but I would've rather had New Vegas continue after the end of the main quest then send you back to before you started the finale[/QUOTE] The entire reason this isn't already the case as far as I'm aware is that Obsidian just didn't have the time or money to change all the things that would need to be changed if you had completed the main quest, so if bethesda hadn't shafted them you'd have your wish [editline]e[/editline] it really annoys me because I like to try to aim to do everything in RPGs, but usually if you try to do it in a sidequest then finish with main quest order, you just end up never beating the game, but if you do it main quest then side quests you can stop and continue whenever you want and hey you already beat the game, but since New Vegas doesn't let you continue after the ending it fucks that up
When I was a child, I got to see two mentally challenged kids argue about the existence of Santa Claus. They almost got into a fist fight over it. I feel the current election cycle is like that.
[QUOTE=EuSKalduna;51119731]Of course, I want to make it clear I'm not some kind of emotionless drone; cruelty for the sake of cruelty is totally wrong and I firmly believe that while animal experimentation should go on, cosmetics and otherwise luxury and non-essentials don't deserve to be on the list of things that need animal testing, and instead should just find human volunteers. BUT, while I can sort of sympathise with people who want to reduce animal experimentation in extremes, and actively abstain from animal products in favour of a more complicated diet are really giving animals too much credit, and even with empathy it doesn't change the fact that we are still animals, just as much a part of the great circle of life that gave rise to strict carnivores, who subsist solely on other sentient beings, and the means to consume them are most likely far less pleasant than anything the average farm will do.[/QUOTE] For me one of the reasons I'm interested in vegetarianism eventually is not merely animals being killed and eaten, that's natural and fine, but what pisses me off is the garbage conditions they're raised in. We could all stand to reduce our meat consumption, it doesn't have to go away completely, but we eat a looooooot. That is essentially unnecessary cruelty. Animal testing is also bad, but it's worth an exception for the purposes you mentioned because we just have to be practical.
This is probably a bit nitpicky, but I kinda feel like we should start referring to animals as something equivalent to "non-human animals" (maybe without the elitist connotation, though it's likely inevitable regardless of how such a term is spelt) since humans are already scientifically animals anyway.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51120023]For me one of the reasons I'm interested in vegetarianism eventually is not merely animals being killed and eaten, that's natural and fine, but what pisses me off is the garbage conditions they're raised in. We could all stand to reduce our meat consumption, it doesn't have to go away completely, but we eat a looooooot. That is essentially unnecessary cruelty. Animal testing is also bad, but it's worth an exception for the purposes you mentioned because we just have to be practical.[/QUOTE] I don't think vegetarianism will ever grow to a point that it forces food companies to redo their animal treatment policies. I personally feel like it's just a way to make yourself feel better about yourself [sp]or morally superior[/sp] while doing nothing but starving yourself of good-tasting food.
[QUOTE=IcyTruth;51120708]I don't think vegetarianism will ever grow to a point that it forces food companies to redo their animal treatment policies. [b]I personally feel like it's just a way to make yourself feel better about yourself[/b] [sp]or morally superior[/sp] while doing nothing but starving yourself of good-tasting food.[/QUOTE] To be fair, it seems like the same thing/something similar to that could be said about any other moral belief. Also, I would imagine that at least half of the vegans/vegetarians doing it for moral reasons see it as a bare minimal thing rather than as a huge accomplishment that one should be proud of. They're obviously going to need to do more than refuse to eat meat if they want change in that field, though.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51120023]For me one of the reasons I'm interested in vegetarianism eventually is not merely animals being killed and eaten, that's natural and fine, but what pisses me off is the garbage conditions they're raised in. We could all stand to reduce our meat consumption, it doesn't have to go away completely, but we eat a looooooot. That is essentially unnecessary cruelty. Animal testing is also bad, but it's worth an exception for the purposes you mentioned because we just have to be practical.[/QUOTE] I think we need to focus on making vat-grown beef a thing at the very least. Cows take up a lot of resources and produce a lot of pollution (CO2 or methane, I forget which gas) so getting rid of beef farms in favor of alternatives would be a good idea.
[QUOTE=IcyTruth;51120708]I don't think vegetarianism will ever grow to a point that it forces food companies to redo their animal treatment policies. I personally feel like it's just a way to make yourself feel better about yourself [sp]or morally superior[/sp] while doing nothing but starving yourself of good-tasting food.[/QUOTE] I do agree that individual action is usually just a way to stroke your ego, but I think one should at least try to live consistently with their beliefs.
Nah the whole world should be vegan like literally animal agriculture is utterly destroying our entire planet and is if u ask me humanity's greatest crime
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51121277]I do agree that individual action is usually just a way to stroke your ego, but I think one should at least try to live consistently with their beliefs.[/QUOTE] This right here. I make my beliefs around how the world is. Not according to something that is against the grain like most people. If one does not examine their ideas, morals and views, they shall end up being the tool of unscrupulous persons and other misfortunes.
on the topic of vegetarians and vegans, i feel like they get too much flack. there's definitely no shortage of pretentious vegans but i've seen people who act just as obnoxious (or even more so at times) about meat.
[QUOTE=Swiket;51124598]on the topic of vegetarians and vegans, i feel like they get too much flack. there's definitely no shortage of pretentious vegans but i've seen people who act just as obnoxious (or even more so at times) about meat.[/QUOTE] people who are obsessed with bacon are 10x more annoying than your average vegetarian
Extremists in general are annoying. Be it: left, right, vegan, meaters, Ford, GM, Audi, BMW, islam, christianity, atheism, etc...
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