Unpopular Opinions V6 You know maybe fascism wasn't all that it was cracked up to be
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[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;51128142]I don't want to be indebted for life in order to have something pretty much required nowadays
Also healthcare[/QUOTE]
That's the entire argument about tulip subsidies:
[QUOTE]Imagine a little kingdom with a quaint custom: when a man likes a woman, he offers her a tulip; if she accepts, they are married shortly thereafter. A couple who marries sans tulip is considered to be living in sin; no other form of proposal is appropriate or accepted.
One day, a Dutch trader comes to the little kingdom. He explains that his homeland also has a quaint custom involving tulips: they speculate on them, bidding the price up to stratospheric levels. Why, in the Netherlands, a tulip can go for ten times more than the average worker earns in a year! The trader is pleased to find a new source of bulbs, and offers the people of the kingdom a few guilders per tulip, which they happily accept.
Soon other Dutch traders show up and start a bidding war. The price of tulips goes up, and up, and up; first dozens of guilders, then hundreds. Tulip-growers make a fortune, but everyone else is less pleased. Suitors wishing to give a token of their love find themselves having to invest their entire life savings – with no guarantee that the woman will even say yes! Soon, some of the poorest people are locked out of marriage and family-raising entirely.
Some of the members of Parliament are outraged. Marriage is, they say, a human right, and to see it forcibly denied the poor by foreign speculators is nothing less than an abomination. They demand that the King provide every man enough money to guarantee he can buy a tulip. Some objections are raised: won’t it deplete the Treasury? Are we obligated to buy everyone a beautiful flawless bulb, or just the sickliest, grungiest plant that will technically satisfy the requirements of the ritual? If some man continuously proposes to women who reject him, are we obligated to pay for a new bulb each time, thus subsidizing his stupidity?
The pro-subsidy faction declares that the people asking these question are well-off, and can probably afford tulips of their own, and so from their place of privilege they are trying to raise pointless objections to other people being able to obtain the connubial happiness they themselves enjoy. After the doubters are tarred and feathered and thrown in the river, Parliament votes that the public purse pay for as many tulips as the poor need, whatever the price.
A few years later, another Dutch trader comes to the little kingdom. Everyone asks if he is there to buy tulips, and he says no, the Netherlands’ tulip bubble has long since collapsed, and the price is down to a guilder or two. The people of the kingdom are very surprised to hear that, since the price of their own tulips has never stopped going up, and is now in the range of tens of thousands of guilders. Nevertheless, they are glad that, however high tulip prices may be for them, they know the government is always there to help. Sure, the roads are falling apart and the army is going hungry for lack of rations, but at least everyone who wants to marry is able to do so.
Meanwhile, across the river is another little kingdom that had the same tulip-related marriage custom. They also had a crisis when the Dutch merchants started making the prices go up. But they didn’t have enough money to afford universal tulip subsidies. It was pretty touch-and-go for a while, and a lot of poor people were very unhappy.
But nowadays they use daffodils to mark engagements, and their economy has never been better.[/QUOTE]
Instead of paying enormous amounts for something that is mere signalling, why not change the system in a way that means we aren't all (both government and individual) held hostage by an enormous higher education industry because of the degree, despite the lack of benefits from this change, becoming a de facto requirement?
[quote]A few years later, another Dutch trader comes to the little kingdom. Everyone asks if he is there to buy tulips, and he says no, the Netherlands’ tulip bubble has long since collapsed, and the price is down to a guilder or two. The people of the kingdom are very surprised to hear that, since the price of their own tulips has never stopped going up, and is now in the range of tens of thousands of guilders. Nevertheless, they are glad that, however high tulip prices may be for them, they know the government is always there to help. Sure, the roads are falling apart and the army is going hungry for lack of rations, but at least everyone who wants to marry is able to do so.[/quote] At least for free health care, this isn't always the case. Many countries wind up spending much less on healthcare overall while still creating higher satisfaction. The US actually spends literally the most per capita
I don't know quite as much about the free education side of it, but a quick glance at wikipedia shows that many countries that do have free/extremely cheap subsidized higher education, such as Germany, Finland, Norway still don't wind up spending much more, or in the case Germany, wind up spending less than the US as a percentage of their GDP.
Also how do you plan on changing it in the meantime that it's basically a requirement for a lot of jobs? I will agree that a degree requirement can be quite arbitrary and necessary (though, university isn't only just there to get you a job,) and that there are many fields where you can satisfactorily teach yourself/learn elsewhere.
Yes, but the free education itself is pointless and doesn't result in higher productivity.
i think the point is higher education isn't supposed to entirely be about improving worker productivity
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;51129084]i think the point is higher education isn't supposed to entirely be about improving worker productivity[/QUOTE]
Then why is it always justified as such when we have targets at getting (for example, in the UK) 50% of people to university?
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51129115]Then why is it always justified as such when we have targets at getting (for example, in the UK) 50% of people to university?[/QUOTE]
Because it's easier to sell it to policymakers/the public or something. I think more people attending university is a good thing because presumably a more educated populace will be smarter and better at making decisions thus leading to a better society. Whether or not that's what's happening now depends on the actual quality of higher education (as well as more basic education that prepares people for higher education).
Morality is overrated
I imagine 3rd parties to be a better choice than Trump or Hillary. Every news post seems to be slamming on Johnson for "not naming a favorite international leader" and its utterly crazy. Both sides seems really keen on killing Johnson's chance of getting a large vote despite the fact that maybe, just freaking maybe, that he might be better off than both the main political party's choices.
I don't like ramen. I don't like instant ramen, and I don't like ramen from the restaurant. It's way overrated.
I like naengmyeon (Korean noodles), pho (Vietnamese) and yen ta fo (Thai)
But not ramen
[editline]29th September 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;51129348]I imagine 3rd parties to be a better choice than Trump or Hillary. Every news post seems to be slamming on Johnson for "not naming a favorite international leader" and its utterly crazy. Both sides seems really keen on killing Johnson's chance of getting a large vote despite the fact that maybe, just freaking maybe, that he might be better off than both the main political party's choices.[/QUOTE]
Libertarians are bad tho
[QUOTE=proboardslol;51129444]I don't like ramen. I don't like instant ramen, and I don't like ramen from the restaurant. It's way overrated.
I like naengmyeon (Korean noodles), pho (Vietnamese) and yen ta fo (Thai)
But not ramen
[editline]29th September 2016[/editline]
Libertarians are bad tho[/QUOTE]
do you not like the noodles or the broth or both?
[QUOTE=KillRay;51129324]Morality is overrated[/QUOTE]
Morality is a spook, you mean.
[QUOTE=maddogsamurai;51129348]I imagine 3rd parties to be a better choice than Trump or Hillary. Every news post seems to be slamming on Johnson for "not naming a favorite international leader" and its utterly crazy. Both sides seems really keen on killing Johnson's chance of getting a large vote despite the fact that maybe, just freaking maybe, that he might be better off than both the main political party's choices.[/QUOTE]
Many of his policies are fucking crazy. If we talk purely about policy, clinton is pretty okay. I only support gary johnson in that we should have more voices heard at that level, not because he's actually a decent candidate.
[QUOTE=Rudevinny;51127654]I'm about as inclined to punch a vegan chimpering at me for ordering a steak as much as I am inclined to punch a steak fanatic threatening to crucify me because I don't eat my steak rare[/QUOTE]
I think steak fanatics prefer to jerk off over medium-rare steaks over rare ones, at least from my experience of eating rare steak.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51129747][B]Morality is a spook, you mean.[/B]
Many of his policies are fucking crazy. If we talk purely about policy, clinton is pretty normal is okay. I only support gary johnson in that we should have more voices heard at that level, not because he's actually a decent candidate.[/QUOTE]
wat
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;51129848]wat[/QUOTE]
Facetious reference to a philosopher, max stirner, who thinks similarly. A spook is a ghost, i.e., an imaginary force that we allow to dictate our lives.
He's funny because of the lengths you can take his ideas to, where you can call basically anything a spook
nice try but I've seen Gran Torino and I don't approve of you using "spook"
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51129115]Then why is it always justified as such when we have targets at getting (for example, in the UK) 50% of people to university?[/QUOTE]
The same reason why physicists always have to explain the "practical" benefits of new research to people: most people who aren't already convinced don't care if you say something is a worthwhile endeavor in itself, even if that is the real reason.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51129906]nice try but I've seen Gran Torino and I don't approve of you using "spook"[/QUOTE]
I refuse to let racists or Grand Tostito ruin the word spook for me
its kinda funny that guys that literally dress like ghosts call black guys "spooks"
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51129963]its kinda funny that guys that literally dress like ghosts call black guys "spooks"[/QUOTE]
Well of course it's funny
racism is a spook
[URL="http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/09/late1.jpg"]DmC[/URL] is the best Devil May Cry game. While I think the old character design of Dante and the new one are too similar to strongly prefer one over the other (imo), DmC sorta blows the other games out of the water.
I'm a pretty jaded guy these days when it comes to entertainment as a whole (just the way the chips fall, I guess) so when something manages to really immerse/entertain me I'm really impressed with it. Playing DmC for the first time I was incredibly surprised at just how AAA it felt. Gameplay was exactly what you'd want a modern DMC to feel like, story and characters crazy as all get out, great pacing, and an overall really smooth experience that doesn't leave you a lot of time to think. Had it's flaws, but it felt like the most fleshed out DMC game yet.
I like both of them equally. v:v:v
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51129887]Facetious reference to a philosopher, max stirner, who thinks similarly. A spook is a ghost, i.e., an imaginary force that we allow to dictate our lives.
He's funny because of the lengths you can take his ideas to, where you can call basically anything a spook[/QUOTE]
It's also one of the many reasons why I love going to /his/
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I feel like some people hate blurred pillarboxing, but I think it's a genius solution.
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I feel like some people hate these blurred pillarboxes, but I think they're a genius solution.
Maybe it's just my parents or something.[/QUOTE]
i think they're practical, but i don't think they're visually appealing
Pillarboxing isn't attractive at all, but this is usually better than black bars imo.
[QUOTE=Talvy;51132615]I feel like some people [B]hate[/B] blurred pillarboxing[/QUOTE]
That's an underestimation, I feel[B][I] extremely [/I][/B][I]annoyed[/I] by the waste of precious bandwidth and it isn't an acceptable solution for badly cropped videos. It feels bad, it looks bad, and I wouldn't put this bullshit into any of my videos.
I think I saw this first in National Geographic, but to be fair, I never liked how National Geographic presented anything. The way they word everything and the way they make the videos are annoying by themselves. An epitome of clickbait journalism with everything bad that comes with it.
[QUOTE=ichiman94;51132698]That's an underestimation, I feel[B][I] extremely [/I][/B][I]annoyed[/I] by the waste of precious bandwidth and it isn't an acceptable solution for badly cropped videos. It feels bad, it looks bad, and I wouldn't put this bullshit into any of my videos.
I think I saw this first in National Geographic, but to be fair, I never liked how National Geographic presented anything. The way they word everything and the way they make the videos are annoying by themselves. An epitome of clickbait journalism with everything bad that comes with it.[/QUOTE]
The way NatGeo has gone lately is so, so sad considering that they have one hell of a legacy. NatGeo is fucking legendary.
[QUOTE=AtomicSans;51134864]The way NatGeo has gone lately is so, so sad considering that they have one hell of a legacy. NatGeo is fucking legendary.[/QUOTE]
Yep, they went hip and cool all while leaving good content behind. The same goes to Discovery Pawn Shop Channel.
I dislike people who lowkey brag about their system and go 'Can this game run on my [some really good rig]'
[QUOTE=Zotobom;51137356]I dislike people who lowkey brag about their system and go 'Can this game run on my [some really good rig]'[/QUOTE]
not as bad as people that when someone comments about bad optimization they're like
lol wtf im running this fine on my 2 1080's and 40 gigs ram i7 watercool computer, get gud
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