eh
[IMG]http://puu.sh/9hSx8/126c4203a7.jpg[/IMG]
Things I can't draw:
hands
shoes
hair
any perspective other than that one
Oh christ, the more I look at it the more things I see wrong with it
[QUOTE=Waffle Lord;45018546]
Things I can't draw:
hands
shoes
hair
any perspective other than that one
Oh christ, the more I look at it the more things I see wrong with it[/QUOTE]
I can't really say anything on the perspective bit, but, if you wanna make cartoony shit, I think I can help you with the hands, shoes, and hair,
First off, your hair looks just fine. Not great, but not DA appreciation Station quality. If you want to make it better you should put more or the right side of her head, and I'd also recommend putting it all behind her head, since that's just easier to draw. With shoes, you're going to want to start out drawing a random shape, I'd recommend a triangle or oval, but whatever works, and then add onto it, like give it laces and stuff. Also, make them look like they're sticking out. And thirdly, with hands I can understand because hands are fucking hard to draw. What I do is I'll either make an arm with fingers just stuck on the end, or make an arm, usually skinny, and draw a mixture of a circle and a square, then add fingers onto that and get rid of any strange overlapping lines
Here's some Mcbess so you kinda get an idea
[IMG]http://eshop.sergeantpaper.com/176-211-thickbox/semin-naked-in-the-wood-mcbess.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Blazedol;45019246]advice[/QUOTE]
I usually do the thumb first, then draw a triangle for the fingers. I guess I could try the finger/arm thing though, But I'm trying to keep some anatomy, don't really want the spaghetti limbs like adventure time or something.
Example
[t]http://puu.sh/9hZAF/2a73a95b0c.png[/t]
(Excuse the quality, I am too lazy to do it on paper-you get the idea)
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wbZQTCy.png[/img]
the first picture i ever completed on my tablet.... it is glorious~
Such a beautiful face.
(just finished 5 mins ago)
[QUOTE=nuttyboffin;45020331][img]http://i.imgur.com/wbZQTCy.png[/img]
the first picture i ever completed on my tablet.... it is glorious~
Such a beautiful face.
(just finished 5 mins ago)[/QUOTE]
I'd recognize that face anywhere.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCgADqInX8[/media]
[QUOTE=Blazedol;45019246]I can't really say anything on the perspective bit, but, if you wanna make cartoony shit, I think I can help you with the hands, shoes, and hair,
First off, your hair looks just fine. Not great, but not DA appreciation Station quality. If you want to make it better you should put more or the right side of her head, and I'd also recommend putting it all behind her head, since that's just easier to draw. With shoes, you're going to want to start out drawing a random shape, I'd recommend a triangle or oval, but whatever works, and then add onto it, like give it laces and stuff. Also, make them look like they're sticking out. And thirdly, with hands I can understand because hands are fucking hard to draw. What I do is I'll either make an arm with fingers just stuck on the end, or make an arm, usually skinny, and draw a mixture of a circle and a square, then add fingers onto that and get rid of any strange overlapping lines
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I'm not trying to be a jerk but that is absolutely [I]not[/I] the way to learn how to draw, especially telling people to draw the way it's easiest
[QUOTE=krten_2x 4b;45015270]I guess this counts as borderline cute. Kahgarak also gave me permission to post it soo
[B]nsfw[/B] [URL="http://i.imgur.com/UwSaK6s.png"]nsfw nudie drawing with thigh high socks[/URL] [B]nsfw[/B][/QUOTE]
Incoming cartoon porn boom now that kahgarak has ok'd it
[QUOTE=Bynine;45021303]I'm not trying to be a jerk but that is absolutely [I]not[/I] the way to learn how to draw, especially telling people to draw the way it's easiest[/QUOTE]
Welp I tried
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;45021774]Incoming cartoon porn boom now that kahgarak has ok'd it[/QUOTE]
Is this a threat or a promise?
Hah, not from ME
I just reasoned that the thread's shadier clientele (everyone else) would get right on that
I can't into flat skin tones
[img]http://i.imgur.com/hmK0k7B.jpg?2?3143[/img]
Trying to find a little balance on this lady.
[t]http://24.media.tumblr.com/ca5b83504ff015d5b8878a987dddbfa8/tumblr_n6tjvk0Vca1rc2okpo1_1280.png[/t]
Gotta practice on chubbier character. I find it a lot easier to see proportions on them.
Might want to check on those two new ladies Gastric drew. I love their physique!
[QUOTE=Waffle Lord;45018546]eh
[IMG]http://puu.sh/9hSx8/126c4203a7.jpg[/IMG]
Things I can't draw:
hands
shoes
hair
any perspective other than that one
Oh christ, the more I look at it the more things I see wrong with it[/QUOTE]
For what it's worth, you didn't try hiding the hands or anything.
Try drawing through this:
[url]http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Andrew%20Loomis%20-%20Fun%20WIth%20a%20Pencil.pdf[/url]
And after that, this:
[url]https://d1e0u2actw4eb3.cloudfront.net/edu/src/Michael%20Hampton-%20Figure%20Drawing%20-%20Design%20and%20Invention.pdf[/url]
[QUOTE=alpha00zero;45028932]
Might want to check on those two new ladies Gastric drew. I love their physique![/QUOTE]
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67144542/Drawings/2014/Scraps/232_Jun7_TalentedArtist.png[/img]
amazing
For the people who like their qts robotic, I got this silly thing with a CRT monitor head
[B]NSFW[/B][URL="http://i.imgur.com/Vrodvk2.png"]http://i.imgur.com/Vrodvk2.png[/URL][B]NSFW[/B]
I have little experience with stuff such as proportions and whatever, but i made something of a proto-OC at least...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/L7K6DfY.png[/img]
Would it be cheating to use images in images just for the sake of adding depth? i was sort of going from a half turn stand with her holding the pen rightwards, couldn't really imagine how she'd hold her pad if facing towards you. the colors in the corner was a part of something, but i couldn't really figure it out, came up with the idea for her whilst playing Pokemon X/Y and New Leaf though. sorry about the lack of color mostly though, white pants worked, but getting skin down is sorta difficult, had to cover any unused areas white just so other things couldn't bleed through, so overall it's a complicated sandwich...SAI is fiddly. (hard to work with pen scale, but that could be for another day.)
[QUOTE=Plucky;45031763]I have little experience with stuff such as proportions and whatever, but i made something of a proto-OC at least...
Would it be cheating to use images in images just for the sake of adding depth? i was sort of going from a half turn stand with her holding the pen rightwards, couldn't really imagine how she'd hold her pad if facing towards you. the colors in the corner was a part of something, but i couldn't really figure it out, came up with the idea for her whilst playing Pokemon X/Y and New Leaf though. sorry about the lack of color mostly though, white pants worked, but getting skin down is sorta difficult, had to cover any unused areas white just so other things couldn't bleed through, so overall it's a complicated sandwich...SAI is fiddly. (hard to work with pen scale, but that could be for another day.)[/QUOTE]
Please, tell us [I][B]more[/B][/I]
We purple detective chick now
[img]http://i.imgur.com/qAZ9knO.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;45032526]Please, tell us [I][B]more[/B][/I][/QUOTE]
It's just i have no sense of proportion, i attempted to straighten it out based on how large the feet were in comparison to the rest of her body, but like i said, the pose made perspective difficult. logically it feels like legs are more like 4 (and a bit) heads large and arms are more like 3, a torso seems somewhat in between both...logically feet should be a head or below, right? *shrugs*
The drawing process itself just feels so rough, it's just hard to correct without lines looking haphazardly erased without lines matching up, probably most obvious in the breast area, though i didn't really indented for it to be so visual. otherwise i'll probably have to trace over the same thing 10's of times, even the work itself took over an hour. and even then, drawing just feels uncomfortable.
feels a bit low, for over 14 hours that only 7 or so people passed by without much. you have things ranging from realistic, cartoony, MSP Adventures-ish and animesque things which are usually liked, then i just slip by. maybe it's the unfinished nature, but it still feels easy to get discouraged.
[IMG]http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/149/8/c/more_alien_cop_by_megadrivesonic-d7kami0.jpg[/IMG]
Just thought i'd show off this piece i made, what do you think?
link to picture:
[url]http://megadrivesonic.deviantart.com/art/More-Alien-Cop-457351272[/url]
[QUOTE=Plucky;45036567]It's just i have no sense of proportion, i attempted to straighten it out based on how large the feet were in comparison to the rest of her body, but like i said, the pose made perspective difficult. logically it feels like legs are more like 4 (and a bit) heads large and arms are more like 3, a torso seems somewhat in between both...logically feet should be a head or below, right? *shrugs*
The drawing process itself just feels so rough, it's just hard to correct without lines looking haphazardly erased without lines matching up, probably most obvious in the breast area, though i didn't really indented for it to be so visual. otherwise i'll probably have to trace over the same thing 10's of times, even the work itself took over an hour. and even then, drawing just feels uncomfortable.
feels a bit low, for over 14 hours that only 7 or so people passed by without much. you have things ranging from realistic, cartoony, MSP Adventures-ish and animesque things which are usually liked, then i just slip by. maybe it's the unfinished nature, but it still feels easy to get discouraged.[/QUOTE]
Well first you seriously need to study proportion from a book then. You shouldn't need to just "sense" proportion, you should be able to measure it. After that I would recommend looking into shapes :) Your lengths arn't tooooo far of now, and once you know that you need to learn what shape each part should be. Best way to learn that (and to internalize your knowledge of proportion on a more instinctive level) is to do figure studies and draw from life.
Even if your drawing your OC, working from a photo for a reference of how things should look and such would be a good idea
[QUOTE=Rhenae;45038744]Well first you seriously need to study proportion from a book then. You shouldn't need to just "sense" proportion, you should be able to measure it. After that I would recommend looking into shapes :) Your lengths arn't tooooo far of now, and once you know that you need to learn what shape each part should be. Best way to learn that (and to internalize your knowledge of proportion on a more instinctive level) is to do figure studies and draw from life.
Even if your drawing your OC, working from a photo for a reference of how things should look and such would be a good idea[/QUOTE]
Well said.
Another thing that is great about shapes is that you could take the reference and deconstruct it into shapes. It's a similar technique to the grid one, where you place a grid on a reference (often of lower resolution) and draw each square of the grid one by one. In this case, take your ref, put a 50% opacity layer over it and draw the shapes you see. From there, you have a more simpler version of what could be a little harsh for the eyes of younger artists (by that I mean with little experience. Not age wise).
In other words, simplify your reference into easy things to draw. Then redraw them into the proportions of you OC's, if that's what your going for. They might look weird at first but keep working on them, shaping them, chiseling them, refining them. If you think you aren't progressing, look back.
Always look back. You'll feel the improvement.
And maybe you'll notice that one detail you missed from your character that you loved so much, like I often do.
[QUOTE=alpha00zero;45041976]you place a grid on a reference (often of lower resolution) and draw each square of the grid one by one.[/QUOTE]
Don't do this
[QUOTE=alpha00zero;45041976]In this case, take your ref, put a 50% opacity layer over it and draw the shapes you see. From there, you have a more simpler version of what could be a little harsh for the eyes of younger artists (by that I mean with little experience. Not age wise).
In other words, simplify your reference into easy things to draw. Then redraw them into the proportions of you OC's, if that's what your going for. They might look weird at first but keep working on them, shaping them, chiseling them, refining them. If you think you aren't progressing, look back.
Always look back. You'll feel the improvement.
And maybe you'll notice that one detail you missed from your character that you loved so much, like I often do.[/QUOTE]
You're better off studying and understanding the body rather than building it from tracing shapes off a photograph. Shapes are not really what you should be learning, forms are what you're after. Shapes will change drastically based on your viewpoint or disappear entirely. If you know forms from within to without you can draw good approximations of them from any angle, and then build upon your approximations with your knowledge gained from study. What you're talking about above is an attempt at fast-tracking a way into stylised characters - while it's true that you will improve doing something like that, that doesn't indicate the soundness of a method. When you start from nothing, you'll get better doing almost anything. With a half-assed learning approach you'll always be limited, your improvement will be slow and won't go past a certain (pretty rudimentary) point, for every drawing you do you'll discover more blind spots you have. You REALLY do not want to be stuck in a scenario where you've been drawing for a few years and you still rely on direct reference for each thing you do.
i drew rosaglundo
[IMG]http://37.media.tumblr.com/79b9b7cb1d5e0d968f184d4e79957357/tumblr_n6v5vnchD71rzx4geo1_1280.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;45043213]Don't do this
You're better off studying and understanding the body rather than building it from tracing shapes off a photograph. Shapes are not really what you should be learning, forms are what you're after. Shapes will change drastically based on your viewpoint or disappear entirely. If you know forms from within to without you can draw good approximations of them from any angle, and then build upon your approximations with your knowledge gained from study. What you're talking about above is an attempt at fast-tracking a way into stylised characters - while it's true that you will improve doing something like that, that doesn't indicate the soundness of a method. When you start from nothing, you'll get better doing almost anything. With a half-assed learning approach you'll always be limited, your improvement will be slow and won't go past a certain (pretty rudimentary) point, for every drawing you do you'll discover more blind spots you have. You REALLY do not want to be stuck in a scenario where you've been drawing for a few years and you still rely on direct reference for each thing you do.[/QUOTE]
Well, thanks for correcting me. That explains why it took me so long to learn basic stuff on my own and how I only improved drastically in the past 5 years when I actually got people sending me in the right ways, a bit like you are doing.
I was always praised (or mocked) for being there, drawing endlessly. Now I actually get criticized and improved accordingly.
So yeah, listen to Mako. It's good for you. Like vitamin C or something.
[IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/8HXueK2.png[/IMG_thumb]
Worked on it,on and off for a few hours.
I think it came out ok.
I think the head needs to be a bit bigger though, but looks good.
Popped this up today.
[t]https://24.media.tumblr.com/431975b13b8e5207319321f12bc9aad2/tumblr_n74inbm6VJ1rc2okpo1_1280.png[/t]
[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67144542/Drawings/2014/222_Jun13_LosEyeView.png[/img]
i did the thing again
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