[QUOTE=Fredrika;47082580]im asking this thread since its the only thread about drawing i could find, what programs do you guys use?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1446278&p=47084071#post47084071[/url]
photoshop atm
Art Rage Studio.
[IMG]http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b497/GeneSarg/Juliett_zpsnrtpqpoa.png[/IMG]
[editline]6th February 2015[/editline]
just a face but whatever
isn't that from ref?
Looks like a photo with a filter over it
No filter, it was done by hand
what's the point of tediously doing that by hand when it comes out looking exactly like you put a filter over a photo
[QUOTE=Eric95;47090632]what's the point of tediously doing that by hand when it comes out looking exactly like you put a filter over a photo[/QUOTE]
Because it's an artstyle?
My girlfriend draws the exact same way, and she even explained the process to me. She sees a photo and perceives everything as a large amassment of different colored shapes rather than the photo itself. So what she does is outlines a specific shape she sees, extracts the most prominent color from that shape, and then colors over it. I personally think it's fascinating and provides a really cool effect.
Also hi, been lurking for a while because ForNoReason's drawings are wicked cute and he showed me the thread a while ago.
[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;47090718][b]Because it's an artstyle?[/b]
My girlfriend draws the exact same way, and she even explained the process to me. She sees a photo and perceives everything as a large amassment of different colored shapes rather than the photo itself. So what she does is outlines a specific shape she sees, extracts the most prominent color from that shape, and then colors over it. I personally think it's fascinating and provides a really cool effect.
Also hi, been lurking for a while because ForNoReason's drawings are wicked cute and he showed me the thread a while ago.[/QUOTE]
I don't think this answers his question, you could make things looks exactly like any crappy filter and call it an "artstyle" doesn't suddenly make it worthwhile
also it's not drawing lol
[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;47090718]Because it's an artstyle?
My girlfriend draws the exact same way, and she even explained the process to me. She sees a photo and perceives everything as a large amassment of different colored shapes rather than the photo itself. So what she does is[B] outlines a specific shape she sees[/B], extracts the most prominent color from that shape, and then colors over it. I personally think it's fascinating and provides a really cool effect.
Also hi, been lurking for a while because ForNoReason's drawings are wicked cute and he showed me the thread a while ago.[/QUOTE]
So it is traced over the image then? That's what I was wondering at when I saw it
[QUOTE=Rhenae;47090780]So it is traced over the image then? That's what I was wondering at when I saw it[/QUOTE]
that's not the same guy who posted it
[QUOTE=Lordgeorge16;47090718]Because it's an artstyle?
My girlfriend draws the exact same way, and she even explained the process to me. She sees a photo and perceives everything as a large amassment of different colored shapes rather than the photo itself. So what she does is outlines a specific shape she sees, extracts the most prominent color from that shape, and then colors over it. I personally think it's fascinating and provides a really cool effect.
Also hi, been lurking for a while because ForNoReason's drawings are wicked cute and he showed me the thread a while ago.[/QUOTE]
oh that reminds me, i should do some more for here
[QUOTE=Eric95;47090632]what's the point of tediously doing that by hand when it comes out looking exactly like you put a filter over a photo[/QUOTE]
because you can't, there is not filter i've seen that lets you control the size shape, colour and direction of the blocks to the same extend, or even at all
[editline]7th February 2015[/editline]
same with these, done by hand:
[thumb]http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b497/GeneSarg/wolfbright4_zpsab2cd2ef.png[/thumb]
[thumb]http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b497/GeneSarg/Bird3_zpsf617d8f7.png[/thumb]
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;47091084]because you can't, there is not filter i've seen that lets you control the size shape, colour and direction of the blocks to the same extend, or even at all
[editline]7th February 2015[/editline]
same with these, done by hand:
[thumb]http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b497/GeneSarg/wolfbright4_zpsab2cd2ef.png[/thumb]
[thumb]http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b497/GeneSarg/Bird3_zpsf617d8f7.png[/thumb][/QUOTE]
One of the big problems with the face is that the color choice isn't good. You should take some artistic liberty with it like you've done with those two to make it more visually appealing. In some spots it just looks like you've color picked from within the area, but you have not captured the essence of what that area should be with that color pick and then you didn't go back and change it to something that works.
There is also the fact that animals have fur/feathers so that style seems to embody that aesthetic, but I just don't think it works for faces.
Also it looks like you started out fairly detailed on her left eye with small shapes and then as you went on you got lazier and lazier until the shapes were much larger than they were when you first started. The further you get away from that point, the larger the shapes get.
Then there is the composition itself, a cropped closeup of a face for me at least is generally an unappealing thing unless it is done incredibly well.
Another thing is that for those two animals the different shapes do not appear to create "planes" in an overall form (look at 3d wireframe models if you don't know what I mean,) whereas on the woman's face they do look like they [B]are[/B] trying to create planes, which results in something that looks misshapen because the shapes to not seem to follow the form. A similar concept would be like with crosshatching, following the contour vs. creating only horizontal and vertical lines:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/LsIWwWv.jpg[/IMG]
For something like a face in this style I think that the shapes should be smoother, like include some C and S shapes, not just polygons, and have them follow the form of the shape.
I am not saying this is the case for those other two examples you've posted, but for the face it really does look like you've just placed an image in illustrator and then used live trace on it and then posted it here. Reading into something that you yourself have said, "there is not filter i've seen that lets you control the size shape, color and direction of the blocks to the same extend," It just doesn't look like you have controlled the creation of these shapes to create something that is visually appealing. It looks like it was created by a machine, and it doesn't seem like you have taken the same amount of care in the placement of the shapes as you have in those two animal pieces.
I know this all might seem harsh if you've never received criticism before, but it is all meant to help.
edit: also another thing to look at is the color value:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/dikIJfe.jpg[/img]
You can see with the two animals there is a large variation in the values of the colors that have been picked, but with the face all of the values are very similar, there is no contrast which results in colors that appear very flat.
Hmmmm I see what you're saying, the funny thing is for the bird and the wolf, I took no artistic liberty at all, those are the real colours, just super saturated, its with the face I had to try and colour correct for an otherwise very orange lit photo
[editline]7th February 2015[/editline]
And yes, I see what you mean about the contouring, though It wasn't actually laziness that drive the peices bigger, I realised they were on the small size
[editline]7th February 2015[/editline]
It was a little lazy overall however
wrong thread for this dudes
esp. since the original picture was traced so that doesn't belong here in the first place
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;47091826]wrong thread for this dudes
esp. since the original picture was traced so that doesn't belong here in the first place[/QUOTE]
How is receiving feedback not the purpose of an art thread? This isn't in fast threads where you can post a yes or no response to the question of whether or not you would have sex with the above users avatar, this is in General [I]Discussion[/I], and previously in the creative section of this forum, areas devoted to discussion. The entire purpose of this thread is not simply for people to post pictures that they made with no expectations of meaningful responses, the purpose it to receive feedback or create discussion.
feedback is generally a good thing but we're approaching a full page of feedback and discussion which is getting a bit off topic.
[QUOTE=For No Reason;47091855]feedback is generally a good thing but we're approaching a full page of feedback and discussion which is getting a bit off topic.[/QUOTE]
If we were talking about something unrelated to drawing, cute girls, or a combination of those things, then it would be off topic. But we are not. We are discussing both of those things at the same time.
Well yknow actually, Skwee I was thinking maybe we could be posting some pictures in between feedback
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/p3HUtVg.png[/IMG] Like that
drawn just now cause I have a soft spot for winter wear. I'd clean it up, but its 3 am here
[QUOTE=For No Reason;47091926]Well yknow actually, Skwee I was thinking maybe we could be posting some pictures in between feedback[/QUOTE]
That's fine, but I don't really have any control over what people post between an image i chose to give feedback to, and my feedback post itself. Perhaps the amount of non-helpful "feedback" responses without break for other pieces of work is what lead me to create such a post in the first place, to actually try and help the guy in a way that wasn't just saying whether I liked it or not or whether I thought it was good/bad.
[QUOTE=Skwee;47091850]How is receiving feedback not the purpose of an art thread? This isn't in fast threads where you can post a yes or no response to the question of whether or not you would have sex with the above users avatar, this is in General [I]Discussion[/I], and previously in the creative section of this forum, areas devoted to discussion. The entire purpose of this thread is not simply for people to post pictures that they made with no expectations of meaningful responses, the purpose it to receive feedback or create discussion.[/QUOTE]
There's another art thread for general non-3D art and feedback, this thread is for specific content. you don't go into the stalker thread and start discussing TF2 just because they're laterally related to one another
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;47092031]There's another art thread for general non-3D art and feedback, this thread is for specific content. you don't go into the stalker thread and start discussing TF2 just because they're laterally related to one another[/QUOTE]
Art feedback is art feedback, in one art thread or another it is still an art thread, and feedback has it's place in every one of them. Feedback is a general thing that is as much a part of art as a first person point of view is to the FPS genre of games. (Oh and also feedback applies to literally everything, from your mom's casserole to the toilet seat you bought last week, I don't have to be in an art thread to state my opinion about something.) A better comparison would be me going into a game's thread and saying what I like and dislike about the game. With that in mind comparing one "game" to another is just as much a part of gaming as comparing one piece of "art" to another. You go into one games thread and talk about how you like/dislike some mechanic and then you compare it to another games version of that mechanic. Your argument doesn't make sense because you are trying to imply something that is simply not true.
The posting, creation, and consumption of art creates an environment of feedback and criticism, which is what you are directly trying to oppose.
If I wanted to show my art to someone and have them tell me nothing about it other than it was good then I would show it to my mother, not the internet. I especially wouldn't post it in a thread that is in the discussion section of a popular online forum.
that's a whole lot of words to say very little and a very elaborate way to miss the point
I'm not saying don't give feedback, feedback is great. What I'm saying is if someone posts off-topic content, criticism and discussion of it is off-topic as well. the other thread is perfect for the above, pictures of eagles and wolves and photostudies all fit comfortably in there, while none of them are on topic here
[IMG]http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2015/038/b/a/ba252a4c599c3139a8686256174c63f1-d8gzuh3.png[/IMG]
!!!
decided to do a pixel of my dead character <33
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;47092250]that's a whole lot of words to say very little[/QUOTE]
Sorry that I can use words that all stand on the same concept. I could write, "you are wrong," or I could write [I]how[/I] you are wrong.
[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;47092250]and a very elaborate way to miss the point
[B]I'm not saying don't give feedback, feedback is great.[/B] What I'm saying is if someone posts off-topic content, criticism and discussion of it is off-topic as well. the other thread is perfect for the above, pictures of eagles and wolves and photostudies all fit comfortably in there, while none of them are on topic here[/QUOTE]
The animals were posted in relation to the discussion of style and trying to show the effect that he was going for with his "drawing of a cute girl," and they were also not at all what I was talking about (if you don't know what I was talking about i'll give you a hint, "feedback.") However, since you happen to mention them, they are still completely related... To say that his "photostudy" of a girl he finds to be cute is not on topic here is completely opinion based. I do not find beheaded women holding their own heads to be cute, but for me to say that they are off-topic doesn't make sense. It's like me visiting a religion thread and then posting about how I think some religion someone has posted about is off-topic, or with that analogy in mind, for someone to criticize a religion and then to say that criticism is off topic.
He drew a girl, and he obviously thinks she is cute, or else this whole thing would never have happened because it wouldn't have been posted here in the first place.
I completely understand what you are saying if you have come in here, seen 2 pictures of animals in a thread about cute girls, and then said that they weren't related, but if you came in here and actually saw the context with which they were posted, then you are pretty wrong about it not being related. I have the benefit of being able to go all the way back to the beginning of this thread though, where I can see that you have been active here before, so I know you are not simply posting based off of your view of a single page, so you must be able to see the context of his images, right?
But seriously though, that bolded bit is all I actually care about, so if you are trying to argue against something else then odds are that you are actually arguing something that I haven't even talked about at all up until this post, because all I have talked about before this post is feedback. But what you have told me so far is that you think that his style examples are off-topic when they were clearly on-topic within the context of the discussion, so you're wrong.
[QUOTE=kitten44332;47092302][IMG]http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2015/038/b/a/ba252a4c599c3139a8686256174c63f1-d8gzuh3.png[/IMG]
!!!
decided to do a pixel of my dead character <33[/QUOTE]
She kinda looks like a zombie Tomoko Kuroki.
[QUOTE=SSK100;47092417]She kinda looks like a zombie Tomoko Kuroki.[/QUOTE]
Aha, I forgot her horns, fuck. lD
But, thank you, I suppose. ;v;
[QUOTE=Skwee;47092326]blahblahblah[/QUOTE]
lmao you could have said that in one sentence
"but he posted a girl?" would have had every bit as much substance as your new Odyssey on how you are right and I am wrong
anyway if you have gone back and read the whole thread you ought to know that photostudies, traces and whatever else in that vein don't belong in here. It came up several times early on, everyone agreed on it and the OP confirmed that the thread is meant for girls that you draw out of your head, not real women rendered into 2D. draw the cutest girl you can, not draw from a picture of a girl you think is cute.
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