Unpopular opinions! V2: I Don't like half life edition.
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[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43486299]no lol, you haven't brought up a single argument in this entire discussion, you're the one repeating yourself
if something is not going to be made illegal and there's less harmful stuff out there that cou7ld be made legal, why not do it, is the point of the argument
of course you can. but saying "coke is sweeter than iced tea" makes a lot more sense than "coke is better than lasagna"[/QUOTE]
Because it means anything
I already Showed you examples but.you keep dismissing them in grounds of being different and not understanding how analogy works
If you are not going to repeat yourself then don't say "lol is ddifrant then weed"
Employers should get out of their way to implement video game elements to their workplaces, as this would likely improve the productivity of younger employees.
[QUOTE=flashn00b;43488377]Employers should get out of their way to implement video game elements to their workplaces, as this would likely improve the productivity of younger employees.[/QUOTE]
???
[QUOTE=Mbbird;43488403]???[/QUOTE]
Pretty much, try to make younger employees' jobs feel as much like a video game as humanly possible.
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[QUOTE=thelurker1234;43485449]Zombies are a lame monster, they're only considered scary because there's like a million after you at once[/QUOTE]
Even hordes of zombies aren't really scary. There isn't anything frightening to me about a slow, shambling, rotting creature that is so slow my fat ass could outrun it, and it is too dumb to formulate any kind of strategy (you think animals hunt of physical ability alone? It is mostly about tactics, flanking the prey and laying traps/ambushes) and cannot even figure out how to use fucking doors. It just isn't very scary and I cannot suspend my disbelief enough to really think that they are a force capable of wiping out [I]America, a place where you practically trip over guns and there are just as many people waiting to use them.[/I] Combine that with our absurdly powerful military and even Romero-style zombies that need headshots would be reduced to nothing in mere hours after the start of an outbreak.
I stopped watching the Walking Dead shortly after arriving to the prison because too little was happening to hold my interest. For Christ sake, they just spent basically a whole season piddling around at Hershel's farm doing all of jack-diddly-shit. Once the more meaty bits got going, things started holding my interest more, but by then I was burned out on the concept and quite frankly none of it held a point. Unlike the first season, there was no longer any drive for evacuation or a cure or anything. Humanity lost, we're fucked. That is why most of the post-apocalyptic stories always irk me. I never feel like any of the character development or anything will matter in the end because we already lost, and all the characters and their lineage will be dead soon anyways. It doesn't bother me as much when that becomes the theme of the story, like [I]The Road[/I], but I do prefer there to be some kind of hope for the future because knowing in the end the main characters basically already lost is just... boring, and depressing.
On the topic of Walking Dead, I'd like to think the overall setting is alright since it shows just how scummy people can get when society goes south. That said, my only exposure to the universe is the first season of Telltale's game, and it's already pretty frickin' dark
Soon as they point out that you can safely,easily and efficiently kill zombies though fences... yeah. Don't realy see how humanity can loose when all it takes is a man with a screwdriver to win.
Metallica is overrated.
[QUOTE=flashn00b;43491351]On the topic of Walking Dead, I'd like to think the overall setting is alright since it shows just how scummy people can get when society goes south. That said, my only exposure to the universe is the first season of Telltale's game, and it's already pretty frickin' dark[/QUOTE]
If you think that the game is dark, you need to read the comic series.
Its way better than the show and game in my opinion.
I think the idea of zombie post-apocalypses is absolutely ridiculous. Not because of the zombies, that's like accepting Superman can fly, there wouldn't be a story without it. Just the idea that all order immediately breaks down because zombies exist and 90% of the population turns into bandits seems incredibly insulting to human intelligence. As if humanity has never had to put up with predators before, or that people somehow forget everything about basic agriculture or just building a fucking solid wall.
That's not even going into the whole idea of zombies being the worst possible predators humanity could have short of toothless, clawless kittens.
I used to be indifferent to zombies but over time I've increasingly considered how fucking outlandish the entire thing is and I've started to hate it.
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;43493492]I think the idea of zombie post-apocalypses is absolutely ridiculous. Not because of the zombies, that's like accepting Superman can fly, there wouldn't be a story without it. Just the idea that all order immediately breaks down because zombies exist and 90% of the population turns into bandits seems incredibly insulting to human intelligence. As if humanity has never had to put up with predators before, or that people somehow forget everything about basic agriculture or just building a fucking solid wall.
That's not even going into the whole idea of zombies being the worst possible predators humanity could have short of toothless, clawless kittens.
I used to be indifferent to zombies but over time I've increasingly considered how fucking outlandish the entire thing is and I've started to hate it.[/QUOTE]
I mean I'm very bored of zombies myself, but IIRC a lot of lores dodge this problem by not going with traditional "cut you with my magically grow supernails~, now you're infected" and instead going with an airborne infection. Airborne infections could feasibly throw the world into chaos, but not the total and utter chaos that 99% of all zombie fiction has.
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;43488318]Because it means anything
I already Showed you examples but.you keep dismissing them in grounds of being different and not understanding how analogy works
If you are not going to repeat yourself then don't say "lol is ddifrant then weed"[/QUOTE]
i don't even know what you're saying anymore. i don't know if i can't understand you because of your broken english or just because you're refusing to listen to reason. if you want to see actual points go back and re-read my posts, but if you just want to get the last word in this argument then go ahead, it's been going on for far too long for me to care
[editline]11th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;43493492]I think the idea of zombie post-apocalypses is absolutely ridiculous. Not because of the zombies, that's like accepting Superman can fly, there wouldn't be a story without it. Just the idea that all order immediately breaks down because zombies exist and 90% of the population turns into bandits seems incredibly insulting to human intelligence. As if humanity has never had to put up with predators before, or that people somehow forget everything about basic agriculture or just building a fucking solid wall.
That's not even going into the whole idea of zombies being the worst possible predators humanity could have short of toothless, clawless kittens.
I used to be indifferent to zombies but over time I've increasingly considered how fucking outlandish the entire thing is and I've started to hate it.[/QUOTE]
tbh it really depends on the type of zombie, imo. i mean, if it's TWD then yeah, it makes no sense for the infection to spread that much, but if you're talking about 28 days later zombies, then it's a lot more plausible
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;43481306]have you tried any Studio Ghibli animations? they're the only pieces of japanese animation I really like personally. The cat returns, my neighbour Totoro, princess Mononoke, and Nausicaa of the valley of the wind are all really great, and porco rosso is legit funny as fuck[/QUOTE]
Ghibli does pretty good at making even boring genres interesting. A lot of people (myself for example) find slice of life extremely boring. Ghibli has a lesser known movie called Whisper of the Heart which is a slice of life movie but it's actually rather interesting and pretty decent.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;43483384]Also I wonder if this forum should make registering require either a garrysmod account, a rust account, or an invite, to keep these annoying spambots out.
Not quite saying I support it, but it's a potential solution imo.[/QUOTE]
The issue with that is that there's plenty of people who don't even have a Steam account, let alone GMod or Rust. And invitations only work if the person desiring an invitation knows someone here.
[QUOTE=darcy010;43483541]Walking Dead is the best action/drama on TV at the moment. Anyone who says otherwise is too stuck up to realise not everything on TV has to have the depth of Breaking Bad or The Wire.[/QUOTE]
I don't know anything about The Wire but I think both the others are pretty awful.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43493631]i don't even know what you're saying anymore. i don't know if i can't understand you because of your broken english or just because you're refusing to listen to reason. if you want to see actual points go back and re-read my posts, but if you just want to get the last word in this argument then go ahead, it's been going on for far too long for me to care
[editline]11th January 2014[/editline]
tbh it really depends on the type of zombie, imo. i mean, if it's TWD then yeah, it makes no sense for the infection to spread that much, but if you're talking about 28 days later zombies, then it's a lot more plausible[/QUOTE]
"actual points" thats funny
[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;43493492]I think the idea of zombie post-apocalypses is absolutely ridiculous. Not because of the zombies, that's like accepting Superman can fly, there wouldn't be a story without it. Just the idea that all order immediately breaks down because zombies exist and 90% of the population turns into bandits seems incredibly insulting to human intelligence. As if humanity has never had to put up with predators before, or that people somehow forget everything about basic agriculture or just building a fucking solid wall.
That's not even going into the whole idea of zombies being the worst possible predators humanity could have short of toothless, clawless kittens.
I used to be indifferent to zombies but over time I've increasingly considered how fucking outlandish the entire thing is and I've started to hate it.[/QUOTE]
Hell, at least some books like World War Z make it a bit less insulting.
Like, in every show/movie/game the military goes on a genocidal rampage killing basically [I]everyone[/I] for fear of infection, the government flees immediately into hiding and nothing is ever heard from them again, and the population devolves into mass panic. At least in World War Z they attempt to fight back and maintain order.
I feel like zombies miss the point. Often they are used to make statements or, in The Walking Dead's case, show how the human survivors can even be worse to each other through fear, and you're right, it is pretty insulting in just how badly it undervalues human intelligence. Hell, even The Road seem to think that the degradation of society almost instantly makes everyone evil. It just isn't true, in my opinion. In fact, I found it tends to work the opposite. When surviving gets tough, most humans start to work together even more in order to survive. People who point out "well look at Africa" miss the point too. Africa's problems aren't so much caused by the environment but by the people themselves, and even then a lot of people state that door to door people were just... friendlier. Like, in America, if someone came to your door cold, tired, and hungry, you would be panicking and calling the police. There, people welcomed them in and shared what little they had. Ancient societies had similar rules. The ancient Greeks believed one should always be kind, courteous, and invite any guest into your home. Welcome them in, share your belongings, and give them quarter on their journey. When faced with a harsh environment, the trend, from what I have seen, is that survival instincts kick in and people work together in order to make it by.
Maybe I am just optimistic, but the trend seemed opposite from what TV shows and movies seems to think it is. It feels like the further we get into society, the more violent humans themselves become and the more detached from hardships, and therefore their fellow man, they are. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to be one of those "society is evil" hippies because society is great and it has brought many very, very awesome things, but I do think that a tough environment forces people to cooperate. Maybe it isn't true for people in parts of the world that don't have to really deal with natural hardships as opposed to man made ones -such as the United States- and that we would have a harder time banning together in times of hardship due to it not being the norm, but I think survival instinct is what drives it anyways.
Once again, maybe that is just optimism, but honestly for every cruel and horrible bastard on Earth, there seems to be at least 10 kind ones. Think about it next time you go in public. Yeah, maybe one guy was kind of an asshole to you, or someone cut you off driving, but also think about how many other individuals you interacted with that day that were nice or at the very least cordial. You'll find most people, at least publicly, tend to be nice. We just spend so much time dwelling on the assholes that it colors our perceptions and makes us into a cynical, bitter asshole ourselves.
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I feel like zombies miss the point. Often they are used to make statements or, in The Walking Dead's case, show how the human survivors can even be worse to each other through fear, and you're right, it is pretty insulting in just how badly it undervalues human intelligence. Hell, even The Road seem to think that the degradation of society almost instantly makes everyone evil. It just isn't true, in my opinion. In fact, I found it tends to work the opposite. When surviving gets tough, most humans start to work together even more in order to survive. People who point out "well look at Africa" miss the point too. Africa's problems aren't so much caused by the environment but by the people themselves, and even then a lot of people state that door to door people were just... friendlier. Like, in America, if someone came to your door cold, tired, and hungry, you would be panicking and calling the police. There, people welcomed them in and shared what little they had. Ancient societies had similar rules. The ancient Greeks believed one should always be kind, courteous, and invite any guest into your home. Welcome them in, share your belongings, and give them quarter on their journey. When faced with a harsh environment, the trend, from what I have seen, is that survival instincts kick in and people work together in order to make it by.
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Are you saying call the police in a bad way, or a good way? Because it HAS happened to where people come to your door "oh I'm sick let me in please", or "my car needs towed", and then bang, home invasion. I'd offer call the police or the towing company for them, if they refuse and seem somewhat suspicious I'd probably call anyways.
If people are pregnant and find out their child has severe disabilities, I'd rather them abort the child rather than spend the next 30 years looking after them.
I believe having a huge ego is nothing to be ashamed of.
[QUOTE=Robman8908;43491893]Metallica is overrated.[/QUOTE]
Their first three albums are good.
[QUOTE=Chains!;43496790]If people are pregnant and find out their child has severe disabilities, I'd rather them abort the child rather than spend the next 30 years looking after them.[/QUOTE]
On the somewhat opposite side of this: I think someone should need a pretty substantial reason to have an abortion, IE severe mental disability, major health risks, impregnation from rape, etc.
[QUOTE=Kljunas;43496977]Their first three albums are good.[/QUOTE]
I love the 80's and 90's stuff
What the fuck even is Lulu and St Anger
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;43497201]What the fuck even is Lulu and St Anger[/QUOTE]
Metallica's greatest albums of course.
[QUOTE=Secrios;43496897]I believe having a huge ego is nothing to be ashamed of.[/QUOTE]
as if to say people with huge egos are actually ashamed of it. Don't think so.
Assassin's Creed III's combat system is just as simple, if not better than that of its predecessors.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;43494898]Are you saying call the police in a bad way, or a good way? Because it HAS happened to where people come to your door "oh I'm sick let me in please", or "my car needs towed", and then bang, home invasion. I'd offer call the police or the towing company for them, if they refuse and seem somewhat suspicious I'd probably call anyways.[/QUOTE]
I don't mean it in any way; I am just saying that is what we would all probably do, as Americans.
It just makes sense though. If you live in a society with many hardships and there isn't much to take, there wouldn't be much to steal. Granted, they still do, with armed militias and whatnot. I am just talking about people in your community. They just seem to be closer knit; tighter. I think this is due on reliance on one another to survive due to their precarious situation.
Even the worst of foes will work together if their circumstances are bad enough. Look at the Christmas Truce in the First World War. All the troops gathered in No Man's Land under a ceasefire, played football, exchanged gifts and letters, and shared food. Even World War II, the most brutal, bloody, and terrible thing to happen to human civilization, forced two firm enemies (US and Russia) to work together against a common enemy.
Books like [I]The Road[/I] and shows like [I]The Walking Dead[/I] may show that the hardest of times brings out the worst of humanity, but they fail to realize that they also bring out the best.
There is something wrong with balance when the top people on the leaderboards are using the same few weapons/character/car ect
[QUOTE=Secrios;43496897]I believe having a huge ego is nothing to be ashamed of.[/QUOTE]
I don't mind ego as long as it isn't in your face. Otherwise, it's obnoxious and toxic.
Mirror's Edge gets a lot more praise than it deserves.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;43505771]Mirror's Edge gets a lot more praise than it deserves.[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna create a church in honor of you.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;43501351]There is something wrong with balance when the top people on the leaderboards are using the same few weapons/character/car ect[/QUOTE]
Some weapons are made for newbies to use but aren't the best, i.e, the grenade launcher in call of duty.
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