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[QUOTE=Perfumly;46141314]there's nothing immoral about eugenics in the right hands. having a baby is not a human right.[/QUOTE] You were a mod. Holy shit.
I enjoyed the film adaptations of the [I]Twilight [/I]series I'll fight all y'all
[QUOTE=TAU!;46141379]You were a mod. Holy shit.[/QUOTE] You're delusional if you think that the human race is truly better off with the unintelligent/mentally retarded/people with major hereditary disabilities breeding like rats. Personally I won't be having kids at all, not because of my genetics but I think having kids in a world that we live in now is just immoral.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46141414]You're delusional if you think that the human race is truly better off with the unintelligent breeding like rats. Personally I won't be having kids at all, not because of my genetics but I think having kids in a world that we live in now is just immoral.[/QUOTE] I (oddly) agree with a lot of shit you say fairly often, but I can't agree that giving someone/something the gift of life is immoral unless there's a wood chipper waiting just outside the womb or something. People are dealt shit hands and yet make their lives fantastic and happy all the time, it's up to them and the people who bring them into this fucked up world to do so. Life is an absolute gift and an opportunity. I see where you're coming from with the benefit of humanity as a race thing, but that doesn't change the fact that life is worth more than cold calculated consideration. [editline]3rd October 2014[/editline] Although having kids or not having kids is ultimately your choice, and I can respect your choice regardless.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46141414]You're delusional if you think that the human race is truly better off with the unintelligent/mentally retarded/people with major hereditary disabilities breeding like rats. Personally I won't be having kids at all, not because of my genetics but I think having kids in a world that we live in now is just immoral.[/QUOTE] I honestly can not believe that you were a mod. Especially after basically confessing to being an anarchist, and now you think eugenics is right as long as it's in "good hands"? Why not, instead of blaming the people who are simply procreating en masse to pass on their genes (like what most human beings have done since the dawn of our species) because most of their kids die of famine or disease, blame the people that refuse to improve the infrastructure of those they rule over? Because, y'know, there are people in the ruling class all over the globe that live in extreme luxury while their own people live like filthy peasants just struggling to survive. Why not strive for equality among the classes, instead of basically sticking to the mindset that these specific people you speak of should be bred out of humanity? Also, why not be in support of more technological advancements, so we can at least try to artificially improve our DNA? So maybe one day, cancer, children born missing limbs/having extra limbs, dwarfism, and any other defects will be out of our genetic code? These same kids could be born, just without the medical problems they would have to suffer through otherwise.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46141414]You're delusional if you think that the human race is truly better off with the unintelligent/mentally retarded/people with major hereditary disabilities breeding like rats. Personally I won't be having kids at all, not because of my genetics but I think having kids in a world that we live in now is just immoral.[/QUOTE] I think someone took Idiocracy just a little bit too seriously
[QUOTE=TAU!;46141484]I honestly can not believe that you were a mod. Especially after basically confessing to being an anarchist, and now you think eugenics is right as long as it's in "good hands"? Why not, instead of blaming the people who are simply procreating en masse to pass on their genes (like what most human beings have done since the dawn of our species) because most of their kids die of famine or disease, blame the people that refuse to improve the infrastructure of those they rule over? Because, y'know, there are people in the ruling class all over the globe that live in extreme luxury while their own people live like filthy peasants just struggling to survive. Why not strive for equality among the classes, instead of basically sticking to the mindset that these specific people you speak of should be bred out of humanity? Also, why not be in support of more technological advancements, so we can at least try to artificially improve our DNA? So maybe one day, cancer, children born missing limbs/having extra limbs, dwarfism, and any other defects will be out of our genetic code? These same kids could be born, just without the medical problems they would have to suffer through otherwise.[/QUOTE] I do agree with this as well, but we are not at that point in medical research. As far as the wealth gap and the ruling class goes, it's something I am very angry and frustrated about every day. I personally live well and do very well for myself, and I'm not a covetous person so when I have extra I'm always throwing it at my friends and family. I truly don't understand how these evil fucks at the top can pathologically hoard money and live in such excess while the whole world suffers. The world (and humanity in general) completely sickens me every day, and that is why I will not have children. Sorry brah, I'm just pretty cynical and misanthropic. I'm not a bad guy.
Technology is always improving, and in time, it could be available to more less fortunate people around the world. We can strive for a better future if we try. [QUOTE=Perfumly;46141513]Sorry brah, I'm just pretty cynical and misanthropic. I'm not a bad guy.[/QUOTE] uh [QUOTE=Perfumly;46141414][B]You're delusional if you think that the human race is truly better off with the unintelligent/mentally retarded/people with major hereditary disabilities breeding like rats.[/B][/QUOTE] right, not a bad guy, okay.
[QUOTE=TAU!;46141535] right, not a bad guy, okay.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWcak9tZupc[/media] my thoughts on humanity in its current state
While we're at it, let's not allow gay people or racial minorities to breed either!
[QUOTE=cheetahben;46141546]While we're at it, let's not allow gay people or racial minorities to breed either![/QUOTE] that's a bit different. but alright
Perfumly, you are a joke, seek help.
[QUOTE=TAU!;46141558]Perfumly, you are a joke, seek help.[/QUOTE] At least I'm never the one to result to personal insults.
I don't know if I'm on the same page but to be perfectly honest, unless you can insure that your child we be healthy and in an average situation then maybe it isn't the smartest idea, especially in this population crisis. This is aimed moreso at families in the heavily third world countries. Sorry, but that's what I believe.
The fact that you'd generalize that all mentally retarded, handicapped, and/or unintelligent people should just stop having kids altogether is pretty damn insulting. Just my two cents. If you must know, I'm a high-performing autist and neither of my parents have any symptoms of autism. I think your theory is pretty flawed.
The people at the top are in no way representative of all of humanity. People will always be attracted to power and ruling over their fellow men, there's nothing you can do about it. Occasionally there are good guys who try to fix what the bad people do when they get the chance. But truth be told the world is a lot better off than it was say, 20 years ago. Remember that saying that in the world, gold attracts more gold, and treasure, more treasures? You're just seeing that at work because people have the tendency to equate mo' money with mo' success. If you don't want to have children it's your choice. I understand your cynicism, I used to have quite a negative worldview when I was younger myself. But the fact is here we can do something about it ourselves to the extent that we can. Complaining about stuff without doing something about it will do no good, even though I recognize that you're open-handed and love giving stuff away to those who need it. In fact, I despise people who complain about things they have no intention of trying to do something about, if they can indeed do something about it. If they can't then I only feel all the more sorry for them.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46141570]At least I'm never the one to result to personal insults.[/QUOTE] Implying that I always do that is a personal insult in itself. But seriously, you need to rethink things and seek professional help. You can't think it's okay to try to justify your views by saying you're "pretty cynical and misanthropic".
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46141570]At least I'm never the one to result to personal insults.[/QUOTE] But you're the one that wants to resort to Eugenics.
[QUOTE=RustledJimmys;46141585]I don't know if I'm on the same page but to be perfectly honest, unless you can insure that your child we be healthy and in an average situation then maybe it isn't the smartest idea, especially in this population crisis. This is aimed moreso at families in the heavily third world countries. Sorry, but that's what I believe.[/QUOTE] Exactly - I think it's a bit immoral to have a child in general that will (you are aware will most likely) require excessive amounts of medical intervention out of the regular to survive and function in the real world. People aren't meant to be dependent on hospitals and pharmaceutical companies their whole lives. It is more often a burden on society than not. I'm not saying abort babies or kill babies based on these things, but to educate and inform why it may be a bad idea to have kids under a large array of circumstances. [editline]3rd October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=cheetahben;46141588]The fact that you'd generalize that all mentally retarded, handicapped, and/or unintelligent people should just stop having kids altogether is pretty damn insulting. Just my two cents. If you must know, I'm a high-performing autist and neither of my parents have any symptoms of autism. I think your theory is pretty flawed.[/QUOTE] Then don't take it so personally. As I said, I'm not saying under my ideal worldview that you would not exist. [editline]3rd October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TAU!;46141592]Implying that I always do that is a personal insult in itself. But seriously, you need to rethink things and seek professional help. You can't think it's okay to try to justify your views by saying you're "pretty cynical and misanthropic".[/QUOTE] I wasn't implying you always do that. It's just a trend on this forum.
All the doctors thought my younger brother was going to have Down Syndrome (and wanted my parents to abort him as well), and guess what he doesn't have? So fuck off with your shitty views.
[QUOTE=bdd458;46141656]All the doctors thought my younger brother was going to have Down Syndrome (and wanted my parents to abort him as well), and guess what he doesn't have? So fuck off with your shitty views.[/QUOTE] So perhaps a more accurate diagnosis by doctors is the correct solution to your problem with my views. It seems all of the people disagreeing are doing so because of your personal reasons. Drop the ego, mankind is one. And you guys should try to stop getting so angry on the internet, we can keep the conversation civil
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;46141699]I'm literally one of the TWO people in the world with fever induced dystonia. They didn't think I was gonna make it far, either. Graduated high school, got a job and I'm almost living on my own with my girlfriend. I think bdd458 hit it on the head.[/QUOTE] You're all completely missing what I'm trying to get across. Stop acting like I want to euthanize everyone who has a medical issue lmao.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46141729]You're all completely missing what I'm trying to get across. Stop acting like I want to euthanize everyone who has a medical issue lmao.[/QUOTE] You're not really proving otherwise with the way you're talking.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46141729]You're all completely missing what I'm trying to get across. Stop acting like I want to euthanize everyone who has a medical issue lmao.[/QUOTE] But that's legitimately what you said. You're arguing for killing off people, or preventing people from having children based off genes. You're a completely shitty person, and it takes a lot for me to think that about someone. I'm glad you're not having children, we don't need you influencing them. [quote]You're delusional if you think that the human race is truly better off with the unintelligent/mentally retarded/people with major hereditary disabilities breeding like rats. Personally I won't be having kids at all, not because of my genetics but I think having kids in a world that we live in now is just immoral.[/quote] [quote]Having babies is not a human right[/quote]
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46141729]You're all completely missing what I'm trying to get across. Stop acting like I want to euthanize everyone who has a medical issue lmao.[/QUOTE] except you said you want to euthanize everyone with a hereditary medical issue
[QUOTE=bdd458;46141780]But that's legitimately what you said. You're arguing for killing off people, or preventing people from having children based off genes. You're a completely shitty person, and it takes a lot for me to think that about someone. I'm glad you're not having children, we don't need you influencing them.[/QUOTE] Right, it would be the slow implementation of preventing them from having kids. Obviously not through legislation at first. Never would I advocate straight out abortions or killing babies, but no harm no foul if there was never a conception. It is possible to lead a fully happy and fulfilling life without shitting out another useless baby, and there are millions of babies that could do with better homes in better countries already. Why not adopt if you want to raise a child? [editline]3rd October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Bathtub;46141796]except you said you want to euthanize everyone with a hereditary medical issue[/QUOTE] Can you show me where I said that please? You can't. Because I didn't say it.
[QUOTE=Perfumly;46141797]Right, it would be the slow implementation of preventing them from having kids. Obviously not through legislation at first. Never would I advocate straight out abortions or killing babies, but no harm no foul if there was never a conception. It is possible to lead a fully happy and fulfilling life without shitting out another useless baby, and there are millions of babies that could do with better homes in better countries already. Why not adopt if you want to raise a child? [editline]3rd October 2014[/editline] Can you show me where I said that please? You can't. Because I didn't say it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]You're delusional if you think that the human race is truly better off with the unintelligent/mentally retarded/people with major hereditary disabilities breeding like rats. Personally I won't be having kids at all, not because of my genetics but I think having kids in a world that we live in now is just immoral.[/QUOTE]
There is nothing in there about euthanization. Please learn what words mean before you try to argue with me about something. [editline]3rd October 2014[/editline] Though, I will chalk this up as a victory considering all you have to resort to is putting words in my mouth, personal insults, and dumb ratings. Ciao fast threads [img]http://i.imgur.com/vajzVeH.png[/img] If anyone cares to have a civil conversation or debate without ad hominem and shit flinging, feel free to PM me.
[QUOTE=TAU!;46141379]You were a mod. Holy shit.[/QUOTE] And a mod's opinions on politics matters whether they're a good mod or not? As long as they keep from abusing their power to silence others it doesn't matter at all.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46141913]And a mod's opinions on politics matters whether they're a good mod or not? As long as they keep from abusing their power to silence others it doesn't matter at all.[/QUOTE] Of course, but I'm still surprised that he was a mod with views like that. But at least he didn't get into politics. He could also not involve his political views with the way he operates, but it's still surprising.
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