• Unpopular opinions! V2: I Don't like half life edition.
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[QUOTE=Kartoffel;41283373]I find transgenderism to be completely fucked up and unnatural.[/QUOTE] Is being gay or breathing fucked up and unnatural? (This sounds really sarcastic after rereading it, but it really isn't. It's an honest question.) [QUOTE=Kartoffel;41284486]I was actually talking full-blown sex change operations as part of transgenderism. I find it fucked up because someone would be, for all intents and purposes, willing to self mutilate to achieve what is purely a cosmetic change. I also find this to be highly unnatural and completely futile. They can feel like they are the opposite gender trapped inside their current body, but the fact remains that there is no changing what they are. Even if they change their gender and take hormones, these changes are purely cosmetic because on the genetic level, they are still their original gender.[/quote] You won't really understand it at all if you're not transgender yourself. That sounds like a stupid claim to make but honestly, with transgenderism at least, it really isn't. It's a really complicated situation that's far out of most peoples' experience so they have trouble really getting it. [quote]That said, I absolutely do not understand what it feels like to "truly believe there is something intrinsically wrong with how you were built".[/QUOTE] That sort of goes along with the above. No offense but every time I've seen you post on FP, you don't really come across as a very empathetic person at all. And if you have trouble empathizing with someone then you're obviously going to really struggle understanding their plight if it isn't something you've gone through yourself.
I normally skip cutscenes in games because I find them rather boring.
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;41284486]I think my explanation was probably a little...off.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Kartoffel;41283373]I find transgenderism to be completely fucked up and unnatural.[/QUOTE] Whoa really, never even noticed.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;41287020]Is being gay or breathing fucked up and unnatural? (This sounds really sarcastic after rereading it, but it really isn't. It's an honest question.) You won't really understand it at all if you're not transgender yourself. That sounds like a stupid claim to make but honestly, with transgenderism at least, it really isn't. It's a really complicated situation that's far out of most peoples' experience so they have trouble really getting it. That sort of goes along with the above. No offense but every time I've seen you post on FP, you don't really come across as a very empathetic person at all. And if you have trouble empathizing with someone then you're obviously going to really struggle understanding their plight if it isn't something you've gone through yourself.[/QUOTE] stop trying to argue on an 'unpopular opinions' thread
[QUOTE=NixNax123;41287571]stop trying to argue on an 'unpopular opinions' thread[/QUOTE] Since when does "It's an opinion" justify calling people fucked up, lol.
[QUOTE=NixNax123;41287571]stop trying to argue on an 'unpopular opinions' thread[/QUOTE] Just because it's an unpopular opinion doesn't mean an opinion posted here is immune to criticism.
But it does mean you're derailing the thread. There's no need to turn this into a huge argument.
[QUOTE=Skyward;41287637]But it does mean you're derailing the thread.[/QUOTE] I'm so sorry I'm not okay with being called fucked up and unnatural. You know there is such a thing as discussion, even in fast threads. That was discussion of, oh wait, an unpopular opinion. Amazing right?
There's no need to get mad at me, I'm not upset or anything, I'm just saying its probably in both of your best interests to just drop the argument. I don't see a single way for this to end well, its happened every time this topic gets brought up on this forum. People get perma'd and threads get locked. I don't think I'm alone in saying it's preferable to avoid that. I can understand your frustration, but I don't think this thread is the appropriate place to discuss this.
If you want another Unpopular Opinion then. This whole "Post That cat and get a key" is stupid as fuck and not funny.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;41287020]Is being gay or breathing fucked up and unnatural? (This sounds really sarcastic after rereading it, but it really isn't. It's an honest question.).[/QUOTE] I don't recall ever saying that gay people were fucked up or unnatural. [quote]You won't really understand it at all if you're not transgender yourself. That sounds like a stupid claim to make but honestly, with transgenderism at least, it really isn't. It's a really complicated situation that's far out of most peoples' experience so they have trouble really getting it.[/quote] Bingo, I don't understand, therefore I can't empathize. [quote]That sort of goes along with the above. No offense but every time I've seen you post on FP, you don't really come across as a very empathetic person at all. And if you have trouble empathizing with someone then you're obviously going to really struggle understanding their plight if it isn't something you've gone through yourself[/quote] That's an excellent observation. I do not empathize with people. In terms of the Meyer-Briggs personality type, I scored an INTJ which I find to be rather accurate. I do not make my decisions based on feeling, I make them based on what I judge and perceive. [quote]And if you have trouble empathizing with someone then you're obviously going to really struggle understanding their plight if it isn't something you've gone through yourself[/quote] This is a very wise and accurate statement. And honestly, I do struggle to understand their plight. That lack of understand is why I cannot allow myself to give the benefit of the doubt. To me, it is an alien and unnatural practice. I am sorry if I seem really cold, but that's how I feel. [editline]2nd July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=NixNax123;41287571]stop trying to argue on an 'unpopular opinions' thread[/QUOTE] Arguments are gonna happen. Let 'em rip. [editline]2nd July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Alice3173;41287678]I'm so sorry I'm not okay with being called fucked up and unnatural. You know there is such a thing as discussion, even in fast threads. That was discussion of, oh wait, an unpopular opinion. Amazing right?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Skyward;41287708]There's no need to get mad at me, I'm not upset or anything, I'm just saying its probably in both of your best interests to just drop the argument. I don't see a single way for this to end well, its happened every time this topic gets brought up on this forum.[/QUOTE] You both have a point, let's let it drop before tempers flare. Alice3173, if you would like to discuss this with me more, feel free to PM me. I'm willing to listen to your perspective, and then we can discuss it.
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;41287726]I don't recall ever saying that gay people were fucked up or unnatural.[/quote] I didn't mean to imply that at all. It was more meant as a comparison. For someone like me, being transgender is as much a choice as being gay is for someone who is gay or being straight it for someone who is straight. [quote]That's an excellent observation. I do not empathize with people. In terms of the Meyer-Briggs personality type, I scored an INTJ which I find to be rather accurate. I do not make my decisions based on feeling, I make them based on what I judge and perceive.[/quote] Unfortunately that isn't always the best way you can deal with things. When it comes to subjects like this one, having such an abrasive opinion on the matter, especially when you don't really understand the subject very well, can hurt peoples' feelings very easily. And just because you don't make your decisions based on feelings that doesn't mean that the feelings of others are suddenly irrelevant or anything. [quote]This is a very wise and accurate statement. And honestly, I do struggle to understand their plight. That lack of understand is why I cannot allow myself to give the benefit of the doubt. To me, it is an alien and unnatural practice. I am sorry if I seem really cold, but that's how I feel.[/QUOTE] It's something that's honestly really hard to explain. I have a number of supportive friends and family members but no matter how I explain these things to them, it just doesn't sink in for them. It's a really alien subject for them to wrap their minds around, and understandably so. But with these people the fact they don't understand doesn't stop them from being supportive. You don't have to understand something perfectly to be able to accept it. (Ie: I don't have a perfect understanding of physics but that doesn't mean I should simply reject physics because of it.) [QUOTE=Skyward;41287708]There's no need to get mad at me, I'm not upset or anything, I'm just saying its probably in both of your best interests to just drop the argument. I don't see a single way for this to end well, its happened every time this topic gets brought up on this forum.[/QUOTE] I don't even see why people are making a big deal in the first place. This isn't even the first time someone has posted an opinion similar to Kartoffel's in this thread and it's not the first time said opinion has been criticized either. The criticism was fairly mild compared to usual as well. [editline]2nd July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Kartoffel;41287726]You both have a point, let's let it drop before tempers flare. Alice3173, if you would like to discuss this with me more, feel free to PM me. I'm willing to listen to your perspective, and then we can discuss it.[/QUOTE] It probably is a good idea to just drop it for the most part, these sorts of discussions rarely end well even if those directly involved are being amiable about it. And I'm really bad at getting my point across in a way that allow people to understand things from my perspective anyways.
I'm just trying to avoid an incident, but I can't force either of you to stop.
Let's get back to unpopular opinions: I think it would be in the best interests if the United States ditched both the Democratic and Republican party.
[QUOTE=Tomo Takino;41287720]If you want another Unpopular Opinion then. This whole "Post That cat and get a key" is stupid as fuck and not funny.[/QUOTE] What exactly is the story behind that cat image?
[QUOTE=Swiket;41288846]What exactly is the story behind that cat image?[/QUOTE] As far as I know it just started as some picture a guy posted that was super huge and everyone thought it was funny and reposted it a dozen times. So eventually it just became bannable, and the rest is history. Unless I'm wrong its nothing interesting.
Kerbal Space Program is Minecraft V2. I bet in 2 years there will be a big back lash against it too.
[QUOTE=The golden;41290460]How is a space-program simulator even comparable to Minecraft in any way?[/QUOTE] It's an indie game that's become a huge hit and he thinks it's only a matter of time before the hipsters decide it's overrated crap because it's "gone mainstream".
He didn't mean the games were the same in mechanics, he meant they were the same in terms of reception. And I never said I supported his argument, I was just explaining the logic behind it, and taking a jab at the bandwagon hate against Minecraft. Also on that subject, I really don't get said hate, yeah Mojang made some bad moves that they deserve to be called out on, but just acting all high and mighty and saying the whole game was never any good and you always hated it etc. etc. is just dumb. I don't even play Minecraft anymore (the appeal just wore off for me) and I still think it doesn't deserve more than 25% of the hate it actually gets.
[QUOTE=The golden;41290569]I think Minecraft gets backlash in that regard because it is sitting on potential that was never realized and never will be. KSP is an incredibly complex simulation game which is gaining new mechanics every update. KSP now is nothing like what it was when it first was available to the public as a beta. It has grown and matured with tons of new mechanics and full mod support. Minecraft is full of added mechanics that don't do anything or were ripped from modders. On top of that - they're both played by very different audiences. KSP isn't a pick-up-and-play game by any means.[/QUOTE] The audience was basically the same from my experience. All of my friends who were deep into Minecraft started hating it and went to Kerbal, and as it would seem most of the community was formerly steeped in Minecraft. The mechanics are very different but still of a similar mindset, I.E. building things that make you think you're cool. And Minecraft changed quite a bit early in its development. It is only now that the useless updates have been flooding in, every since Notch fucked it up with the Halloween update. I am not saying Kerbal is on that level or ever will be, I am just saying that one should brace for it all things considered. And yes, I would say KSP is very pick-up-and-play. It is quite literally just that. It doesn't have a story or a vast and impenetrably complex system or anything. I played it myself, and it is easy to get into and doesn't require prior knowledge or preparation (unless you want to actually be good at it, but watching the ships fail utterly is part of the fun)
I don't like Daft Punk at all, and I'm sure half the people who say they like Daft Punk say it because they've listened to five of their popular songs and they think their robot helmets are cool.
The most unpopular opinion appears to be that My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is an acceptable show for Men of all ages to watch and enjoy. I however beg to differ. Do we hate on older women who enjoy shows like Ben 10, or Bob the Builder? Maybe they like Play School? That is enough from me, I'm beginning to cross lines here... and I can almost guarantee that I will get banned if a grumpy moderator see's this post.
[QUOTE=BananaFoam;41290448]Kerbal Space Program is Minecraft V2. I bet in 2 years there will be a big back lash against it too.[/QUOTE] People hate Minecraft now because it's still an unfinished game and it's really shit compared to what it could have been. KSP is already pretty solid, and the devs seem to know what they're doing (unlike Notch) so I doubt that will happen.
I thought that get lucky daft punk song was awful and wondered why they would reveal such a bad song as their first song in the new album. Then I heard the rest...
[QUOTE=Redfiend;41292012]The most unpopular opinion appears to be that My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is an acceptable show for Men of all ages to watch and enjoy. I however beg to differ. Do we hate on older women who enjoy shows like Ben 10, or Bob the Builder? Maybe they like Play School?[/QUOTE] Did you miss a word or word this badly? The only way it really makes sense to me is if either of those are the case.
[QUOTE=zombojoe;41293340]I thought that get lucky daft punk song was awful and wondered why they would reveal such a bad song as their first song in the new album. Then I heard the rest...[/QUOTE] it's really not what I expected from a "long in the making" daft punk song, that's for sure I mean it's pretty OK, but it's really shallow, basic, and built to be popular as hell - there was a fuckton of hype for it, then it came out, everyone got a listen, then it turned out to be addictive and appropriate for all situations and safe to play on radio, and tadaaaaa, it's fucking everywhere
[QUOTE=Alice3173;41287020]Is being gay or breathing fucked up and unnatural? (This sounds really sarcastic after rereading it, but it really isn't. It's an honest question.) You won't really understand it at all if you're not transgender yourself. [/QUOTE] In that case, you won't really understand our sentiments if you're not straight yourself. Unless you are straight and are just lacking empathy, in which case you're obviously going to really struggle understanding someone's point of view if all you can do is deride them for having an opinion different than yours. Meaning, I don't think Kartoffel is the unsympathetic bastard that you paint him to be.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;41296674]Meaning, I don't think Kartoffel is the unsympathetic bastard that you paint him to be.[/QUOTE] Lol, what? He himself admitted he does have trouble empathizing with people. And I never made him out to really be a bastard or anything. His first post was horribly written, it calls me fucked up and unnatural for something I have absolutely zero control over. (Trust me, I tried not being this way for the majority of my life only to crash and burn because of it.) Also this part: [quote]In that case, you won't really understand our sentiments if you're not straight yourself. Unless you are straight and are just lacking empathy, in which case you're obviously going to really struggle understanding someone's point of view if all you can do is deride them for having an opinion different than yours.[/quote] Is worded really strangely and makes little actual sense to me. It appears to be attempting to use what I said to Kartoffel against me but very badly because it doesn't really make sense.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;41296718]:words:[/QUOTE] But wasn't he talking more about the act of getting surgery to remove genetalia rather than transgenderism itself?
[QUOTE=BFG9000;41297368]But wasn't he talking more about the act of getting surgery to remove genetalia rather than transgenderism itself?[/QUOTE] Yes, after he corrected his original post. His original post was very abrasively, and fairly offensively, worded and didn't at all get across what he meant. I can even understand why he would hold that opinion even, I understand why a transgender person would want that being transgender myself but it's something I really can't put into words. At least not in a way that would be able to help someone like Kartoffel understand it. And a good chunk of that stems from him not empathizing with people. A good chunk of empathizing with someone comes from being able to put yourself in their shoes and understand why they feel the way they do. But yeah, really his first post didn't at all get his point across. What he said came across more as calling transgender people as a whole fucked up and unnatural which is why I took offense to it.
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