[QUOTE=Winner;39300530]I read that as "in Latin"
Of course it was a mindfuck, you were watching it in fucking Latin[/QUOTE]
Oh god, I remember watching Bible Black with german dub while being drunk.
So weird, yet so fun.
[QUOTE=Hammer7;39300357]Yet you end up full of questions by watching them.
NGE starts like some sort of Gundam but then it's all "We need to go deeper..." stuff.
25-26 ep still are some sort of overkill.
Hardly remember how it was in Lain but still it has mind blowing parts.[/QUOTE]
Uh, yes, I was left full of questions on why people think it's a mindfuck when it isn't.
Lain didn't have anything close to mind blowing parts.
[QUOTE=dgg;39300837]Uh, yes, I was left full of questions on why people think it's a mindfuck when it isn't.
Lain didn't have anything close to mind blowing parts.[/QUOTE]
Oh please, calm your elitism.
Opinions, man. Opinions.
Thank you all for the recommendations.
Since opinion was so divided, I went with Black Lagoon since it was 3 in the morning and I wasn't up for anything that required too much thinking.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;39286474]Sorry, i've always used "anime" as a shortened form of "animation", especially within this thread. The same way you would call it "cartoon" if you were in what would typically be a "western" thread. I didn't mean it exclusively as "japanese animated 2D work". And I mostly excluded 3D because 99% of the time you're working with tweens to save time. I consider 2D animation to be a subset of 2D art (traditional/digital still frames), so in my mind I didn't exactly exclude that, although I didn't add it because the post was getting too long already. [/QUOTE]
Apology accepted, now stop calling animation for anime, you're not Japanese.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;39286474]But I guess If I don't make a 10 page essay covering my ass every 2 seconds i'll get chewed out. It requires too much effort to explain everything properly and I don't really feel like doing that for a simple little thread revolving around a specific topic on a forum for a videogame. I don't have time for that.
(which is why I normally only post when I have something trivially funny to post)[/QUOTE]
Are you mocking me? I'll have you pay in your own weight of blood.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;39286474]The toolset when creating 3D animation allows for retroactive revisions to be done quickly, as you stated. The cost to re-do something that might've screwed up at any point in time takes considerably less time than other more traditional mediums. Do they have to plan it out? Yes. But there isn't as much to lose if they need to change something at the last minute. So getting it right the first time, and qualifying what is needed beforehand is basically required. [i]Could[/i] they animate it frame by frame? Sure. They usually don't though, because it often requires so much effort that it's not worth it.[/QUOTE]
And I won't argue with that at all since it's all correct. But I don't believe that makes it easier at all, it sets the standards for perfection higher and more is required for it to be good. 3D animation also suffers from a lack of flow if done improperly, it will look unrealistic, tacky and cheap. So whilst revisions and changes are possible, that also comes at the price of higher expectations evening out the pros.
Same as digital vs traditional art.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;39286474]I excluded traditional film, because there's a lot more variables involved when you add the actors in. Yes, they still need to decide the shots, and yes they need to decide what gets put into the shot. It's why they have to take hundreds of shots in order to perfect it, or just call it a wrap. The amount of variables that using live humans adds is astounding. It's possible that they could get a perfect shot for every scene in no time at all, with no divergence from the original view, and only those get put into the finished project. However i've never heard of that happening. What I have heard of is staff adding in small objects into scenes because they can't find exactly what they need on hand, time is running out, and it'll work "just fine".[/QUOTE]
And how is putting in a budget or time-restricted object in the background any different from not drawing all the frames they planned to in an animation? Not being able to finish a background drawing? Missing scenes (SHAFT being a prime example) and putting in filler visuals. Etc. It's the same shit. But in film you can't go back and re-take the scene because you need to build up the whole set again for a 5 second cut, whereas with animation you can just draw that in for the DVD/Bluray release. Woopdedoo, traditional animation against film has the same arguments as 3D vs traditional.
Having an actor move in a certain way to make up a composition whilst retaining credibility in acting and emotions as well as behaving in a proper way is a big task and is very well planned and thought out for the most part, but of course improvisation does happen, but that's no different for any other medium. Along the way as you create something you realize what you thought to do wasn't as good as it could be and you come up with a new or different solution.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;39286474]Yes stopmotion requires just as much work, and I enjoy it just as much. It's just so rare that I completely forgot about it when writing the post.
In short, I believe that anime (traditional animation/art) and stopmotion (frame by frame traditional/digital) require more attention to detail and planning than other mediums. Is that really the case? I haven't researched it enough to know. If someone ever performs a detailed study on the subject i'd be interested in reading it.[/QUOTE]
Stopmotion requires more work actually, it has all the cons of movie, drawing and 3D animation all at once. And there isn't any pros if you were to try and compare it to all of them. You have to make a set and characters, then you need a camera to take pictures of it, then you need to move the camera frame for frame in a perfectly calculated axis whilst moving the characters in a proper manner between each shot. And those characters can move on their own, fall over and all sorts of hellish shit at the slightest mistake, nullifying hours of work because of one single frame went wrong and ruined the consistency of all the previous ones.
[QUOTE=HeroicPillow;39286474](After revising a fair amount of this post multiple times over to try and explain it properly, i've spent enough time on this to stop caring about it. And because I need to go study, i'm not going to try and revise it any more. At this point i'd normally just save it on my harddrive and try to revisit it later, but fuck it i'm posting it as it is.)[/QUOTE]
Faygot, revisions are silly. Just streamline your thought process into the post and leave it at that, at's what I do. Correct yourself with edits after posting as you see something you want formulated differently, or take it back on a reply to your post.
[editline]21st January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Hammer7;39300916]Oh please, calm your elitism.
Opinions, man. Opinions.[/QUOTE]
It's not an opinion and it's not elitism. I'll just spoiler tag all the following text to be sure I won't get a ban.
Neon Genesis Evangelion has a straightforward message [sp]that is made sound and clear by the show through dialogue and interactions. Shinji is a depressed as fuck loner who doesn't think he's loved by anyone. As people start loving him and he realizes that he starts being able to do things he couldn't before. That's basically the gist of it. The applause at the end is given because he starts accepting the love given to him.
There is all sorts of symbolic religious bullshit going on in the background, but it's all nonsensical and not thought through beyond "this is symbolic and looks deep". This is what so many people start obsessing over and forget to actually pay any attention to what they're being told by the series and the people in it.[/sp]
Serial Experiements Lain is really just fucking straightforward, [sp]it's a shut-in computer fanatic in a world where Virtual Reality exists, she plays games and browses the internet and gets in trouble because of it, getting hacked and dwindling down in the depths of internet hell with all sorts of conspiracies and lunatics.[/sp]
[QUOTE=dgg;39300918]
Stopmotion requires more work actually, it has all the cons of movie, drawing and 3D animation all at once. And there isn't any pros if you were to try and compare it to all of them. You have to make a set and characters, then you need a camera to take pictures of it, then you need to move the camera frame for frame in a perfectly calculated axis whilst moving the characters in a proper manner between each shot. And those characters can move on their own, fall over and all sorts of hellish shit at the slightest mistake, nullifying hours of work because of one single frame went wrong and ruined the consistency of all the previous ones.
[/QUOTE]
Ye, Chicken Run has 118,080 frames in it and it used 2,380 kg of plasticine
I'm up to Spice and wolf S2E3 and wow it didn't disappoint though I feel fucking stupid for spoiling myself :saddowns:
Finished Baccano&Durarara
Both very good shows, 8/10. Though Baccano was much better than Durarara in my opinion.
[QUOTE=notlabbet;39299147]I tried reading toriko and i just couldn't handle it
I my opinion I thought it was bad.[/QUOTE]
I only watch Toriko when I order Pizza.
Watching the show makes my mouth water.
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;39299726]first stage was one big cliffhanger though[/QUOTE]Nah, [sp]just the center nova near-disappearance[/sp] in the last ep, there isn't much of a cliffhanger aside from that.
it is time for
[img]http://puu.sh/1NjTP[/img]
we finns are up against the god-asian-team of hong kong in the very first match with all their players globally ranked ~100, (i'm just ~1200 in taiko) so this cup isn't gonna take very long.
[editline]21st January 2013[/editline]
last year in the osu world cup we were up against korea in the first match, so our luck continues as usual.
finland for first
[editline]21st January 2013[/editline]
Are there any big differences between 720 and 1080? Lets say your dl speeds are capped per month (Mine aren't), is the 1080 worth the extra quality
[QUOTE=titopei;39303218]is the 1080 worth the extra quality[/QUOTE]
Only if it's a proper bluray release for something that's really good.
I'm a quality freak so I choose 1080p for anything if I can, but no, the difference is not super amazing unless it's done properly which it hardly ever is.
Crunchyroll's 1080p stream quality is just an upscaled 720p video, which means the quality is actually better if you watch it in 720p.
[QUOTE=titopei;39303218]finland for first
[editline]21st January 2013[/editline]
Are there any big differences between 720 and 1080? Lets say your dl speeds are capped per month (Mine aren't), is the 1080 worth the extra quality[/QUOTE]
shouldn't bother with it unless blu-ray release. but sometime the blu-ray release is only an upscale making it worthless anyway
[QUOTE=titopei;39303218]finland for first
[editline]21st January 2013[/editline]
Are there any big differences between 720 and 1080? Lets say your dl speeds are capped per month (Mine aren't), is the 1080 worth the extra quality[/QUOTE]
Most anime is animated at sub-720p resolutions so there is pretty much no advantage in most cases.
Kyoto Animation is one of the few studios which animate in 955p which is higher than 720p but still lower than 1080p. For more info, [url]http://ultimatemegax.wordpress.com/2012/11/28/animation-quality-and-anibin/[/url]
One thing to keep in mind is the compression. Lower resolution usually means more artifacting but in a good encode the difference in negligible. Also, do you really care that much about the quality of your chinese cartoons?
[QUOTE=Joppu;39303843]Most anime is animated at sub-720p resolutions so there is pretty much no advantage in most cases.
Kyoto Animation is one of the few studios which animate in 955p which is higher than 720p but still lower than 1080p. For more info, [url]http://ultimatemegax.wordpress.com/2012/11/28/animation-quality-and-anibin/[/url]
One thing to keep in mind is the compression. Lower resolution usually means more artifacting but in a good encode the difference in negligible. Also, do you really care that much about the quality of your chinese cartoons?[/QUOTE]
Duh, I need to pay attention to every pixel and if one looks ugly I have to delete the whole series and rate it a 1/10. GFX means everything nowadays yo. What are some good examples where the 1080 is clearly superior to the 720?
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;39291448]Currently uploading that scene to Youtube, albeit without subs.
[editline]20th January 2013[/editline]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKE-34KWFnA[/media]
1:30 for the best one.[/QUOTE]
Just a quick heads-up that since my stupid ass found Handbrake, you can now watch this with subs!
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVGWMSuRqc4[/media]
toradora
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/e564SbI.jpg[/IMG]
yeah um
caught up with robotics;notes
[thumb]http://i.imgur.com/xbtuYVI.jpg[/thumb]
10 bucks says this is how some h-doujin will start
"Why don't you eat my "footlong"."
Just finished "Is this a zombie?" anime (and the second season), what next?
[QUOTE=hogofwar;39304605]Just finished "Is this a zombie?" anime (and the second season), what next?[/QUOTE]
want more supernatural girl hijinks?
magipoka is good
[QUOTE=koeniginator;39304623]want more supernatural girl hijinks?
magipoka is good[/QUOTE]
I would prefer to go with similar humour, the show actually made me laugh which I haven't done in a while to a show.
dammit toradora [sp]stop making me miss christmas even more[/sp]
[QUOTE=titopei;39304769]dammit toradora [sp]stop making me miss christmas even more[/sp][/QUOTE]
I thought you had posted about having seen Toradora before?
[QUOTE=l l;39304899]I thought you had posted about having seen Toradora before?[/QUOTE]
I don't think so
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;39304518]"Why don't you eat my "footlong"."[/QUOTE]
but is your footlong actually a foot long?
i downloaded a footlong
[QUOTE=titopei;39305947]i downloaded a footlong[/QUOTE]
warez
you wouldn't download a car
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