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[QUOTE=Eric95;48066521]should've been twice as long tbh[/QUOTE] they barely held it together for 24 episodes, had they done 48 it would have been a total disaster.
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;48066743]they barely held it together for 24 episodes, had they done 48 it would have been a total disaster.[/QUOTE] I would've liked it to be more stretched out, honestly. I love the ways they found to fill up time, like how the filler episode was the best one If they'd made it twice as long with the same budget it would've been even better because of the ways they'd work around their lack of budget and end up making it more entertaining Trigger's the best at that shit
Jesus Christ Assroom got incredibly dumb by the end of it. Moral speeches, pans of peoples expressions towards a situation, exposition ontop of exposition with some exposition to spice things up during some exposition, the ever increasing number and difficulty of BAD GUYS INC. Yeah, that about sums this show up, it also just forgot that it was supposed to be a comedy somewhere along the way. 4/10
[QUOTE=Eric95;48066857]If they'd made it twice as long with the same budget it would've been even better because of the ways they'd work around their lack of budget and end up making it more entertaining Trigger's the best at that shit[/QUOTE] that isn't how it works at all the story hardly stuck with 24 episodes. adding more episodes does not fix the story deficit, and adding more episodes without increasing the budget means you get what we are currently getting out of ninja slayer: not good
[QUOTE=Eric95;48066857]I would've liked it to be more stretched out, honestly. I love the ways they found to fill up time, like how the filler episode was the best one If they'd made it twice as long with the same budget it would've been even better because of the ways they'd work around their lack of budget and end up making it more entertaining Trigger's the best at that shit[/QUOTE] Characters getting fleshed out more would have been good, the problem is that trigger can not do character development worth anything... However, Trigger can't do character development, they are good for action and fun but not making long series. KLK could have been 13 eps and did everything it needed to easily. It worked at 24 because they pushed a lot of shit to make it work. [editline]27th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=dgg;48066871]Jesus Christ Assroom got incredibly dumb by the end of it. Moral speeches, pans of peoples expressions towards a situation, exposition ontop of exposition with some exposition to spice things up during some exposition, the ever increasing number and difficulty of BAD GUYS INC. Yeah, that about sums this show up, it also just forgot that it was supposed to be a comedy somewhere along the way. 4/10[/QUOTE] Probably the only post I will ever agree with you on.
[QUOTE=Eric95;48066857]I would've liked it to be more stretched out, honestly. I love the ways they found to fill up time, like how the filler episode was the best one If they'd made it twice as long with the same budget it would've been even better because of the ways they'd work around their lack of budget and end up making it more entertaining Trigger's the best at that shit[/QUOTE] You sound like a blind fanboy wearing horse blinders right now.
I mean shit Trigger is the micheal bay of anime
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;48066881]Probably the only post I will ever agree with you on.[/QUOTE] Shame too, it was really good in the start.
[QUOTE=dgg;48066898]You sound like a blind fanboy wearing horse blinders right now.[/QUOTE] more like a cool guy with valid opinions about japanese animation
[QUOTE=Eric95;48066912]more like a cool guy with valid opinions about japanese animation[/QUOTE] Well... since that is a huge contradiction, sure.
[QUOTE=Eric95;48066857]I would've liked it to be more stretched out, honestly. I love the ways they found to fill up time, like how the filler episode was the best one If they'd made it twice as long with the same budget it would've been even better because of the ways they'd work around their lack of budget and end up making it more entertaining Trigger's the best at that shit[/QUOTE] Working around a low budget does not instantly make your show better than something else, had trigger had a real budget i can almost guarantee the show would be FAR BETTER for it.
You can only blame budget on so much, Like I get if the show was sold at 20+ episodes so some shit needs to be stretched at times. HOWEVER, you need to understand the difference between streching a budget and blaming author/animation faults on money.
[QUOTE=Eric95;48066912]more like a cool guy with valid opinions about japanese animation[/QUOTE] your opinions include the assumed "fact" that klk has a better colour palette than ttgl (it doesn't, unless you're colourblind), looks better than ttgl (it doesn't) and that all of the not high budget episodes of ttgl look like the one episode that had a guest director (they don't, and they look better than equivalent low budget shots in most of klk) yeah sorry nothing much valid there bro
I feel KLK might have suffered being 12 episodes, but 24 was too much for it, you can't win
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;48066949]I feel KLK might have suffered being 12 episodes, but 24 was too much for it, you can't win[/QUOTE] And there is the problem with television. You can't just make things the length they should be, it needs to fit into the broadcasting program.
16 episodes is the absolute maximum I'd have given KLK based on the story content we got. It would have scraped by on 13, but 16 would probably have been sufficient to provide it as planned.
[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;48066949]I feel KLK might have suffered being 12 episodes, but 24 was too much for it, you can't win[/QUOTE] 13 episodes would have been fine for KLK, assuming you cut out the fanservice parts and that depression arc [editline]27th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=dgg;48066955]And there is the problem with television. You can't just make things the length they should be, it needs to fit into the broadcasting program.[/QUOTE] Very true but given how japan works 13 episodes is a norm
I don't know how they managed it, but Danna Ga Nani S2 was less funny, more boring and just plain worse than S1. Well done. 4/10 I'll finish Punchline and Fate/stay tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;48066918]Working around a low budget does not instantly make your show better than something else, had trigger had a real budget i can almost guarantee the show would be FAR BETTER for it.[/QUOTE] not if it's done creatively [editline]28th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Taggart;48066932]your opinions include the assumed "fact" that klk has a better colour palette than ttgl (it doesn't, unless you're colourblind), looks better than ttgl (it doesn't)[/QUOTE] both of those are completely subjective, and hey, who's the professional artist here? eh? [QUOTE=Taggart;48066932]and that all of the not high budget episodes of ttgl look like the one episode that had a guest director (they don't, and they look better than equivalent low budget shots in most of klk)[/QUOTE] never even said that
[QUOTE=Eric95;48067091]not if it's done creatively[/QUOTE] I'm not sure what you're trying to say here? working around a low budget "creatively" doesn't automatically make your show better than a show with complete freedom of budget that can do anything it wants. TTGL has objectively better animation then KLK, and it doesn't lack creatively put together cuts or scenes for it, there are times where a low budget can make something stand out in a different way (like endless scenes of nothing in eva) but KLK is doing exactly what TTGL does, only worse.
[QUOTE=Eric95;48067091]both of those are completely subjective, and hey, who's the professional artist here? eh?[/QUOTE] Subjective yet you stated them as facts over your opinion, yeah ok. The Megatokyo artist is also a "professional" artist, that doesn't mean that his word means shit, just like it doesn't mean yours means shit. [QUOTE]never even said that[/QUOTE] Sure tried your best to imply it though, what with the "oh all the low quality shots looked bad, unlike in KLK where they're deliberately bad because it's funny"! You also called the guest director episode a filler episode, despite it introducing [I]four important characters[/I].
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;48067152] TTGL has objectively better animation then KLK, and it doesn't lack creatively put together cuts or scenes for it, there are times where a low budget can make something stand out in a different way (like endless scenes of nothing in eva) but KLK is doing exactly what TTGL does, only worse.[/QUOTE] I will agree that TTGL has better animation but it still suffers the same complex, [sp]Simons depression faze sucked dick[/sp] and while you can argue it was character development it went on for far to long. However, unlike KLK TTGL managed to reinvent that experience into the story, where as KLK just forgot about it and never built on that arc.
I don't really think that (ttgl spoilers) [sp]Simon's depression[/sp] was too long or too short. Rather, my issue with that area of the arc is that in the grand scheme of things, it is utterly forgettable. It's placed between [sp]Kamina being killed, and Simon manning the fuck up and absolutely annihilating Adiane.[/sp] It's even more forgettable in the movie, which has [sp]the Dai-Gurren simultaneously attacked by three of the four Divine Generals AND Viral at the same time.[/sp] Like it's super important to his character, but it's also put between two of the most ball bustingly great moments of the arc.
I hated the arc, but I loved the fact the series built on it, they also made the arc mean something. But yeah that arc went too long...
I personally feel that Kill la Kill is much more interesting than TTGL from a creative standpoint. Like, when I watch KLK I can tell what the creators were thinking, see the tricks and techniques they used and identify with them, and get into the show on a completely different level than with TTGL, where it feels like most of the staff were simply "going through the motions" to some extent. Even though TTGL is really good, it feels much more like a standard anime production, with no struggles whatsoever, while KLK just makes me [I]feel[/I] more despite (and because of) its flaws. Having the budget problems played with and exposed by the creators makes the show feel much more accessible and inspiring to me, creatively. It makes it feel like "hey maybe i can do that", and is the kind of thing that drives me to work harder and make stuff. It's inspiring in its roughness in the same way that Kyoani stuff (Like Tamako Love Story which is fucking amazing) is inspiring in how incredibly well-made it is, and I'm constantly in awe of the animation, backgrounds and compositing when I watch that stuff. The animation in TTGL isn't bad, but it isn't anything amazing either. It's just regular TV-quality anime animation, not that interesting in either direction. i don't watch anime for the story, i watch it for creative inspiration that's probably why i'm so biased toward klk
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;48067340]I hated the arc, but I loved the fact the series built on it, they also made the arc mean something. But yeah that arc went too long...[/QUOTE] It was three episodes, it didn't go on too long at all.
So Plastic Memories was great. [sp]They didn't asspull the ending, thank God, and it was sad as fuck. I also think that the "new" girl Tsukasa has to work with is Isla's body with a different personality.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;48067397]It was three episodes, it didn't go on too long at all.[/QUOTE] 3 epsidoes would not have been to long if the series was expressing itself to be something longer.
KLK probably went on too long but it never took itself too seriously so I'm okay with it. [editline]27th June 2015[/editline] Everyone should watch FLCL though if they thought KLK went on too long. 6 episodes, 3 hours, it's really dense narratively and beautifully animated.
I think most of the people here have seen FLCL.
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