The British would lose, the problem in this case is simple... the British would have absolutely no clue where the Rangers are. They could go shoot into the brush or whatever, but if the rangers are in decent camouflage and have silenced snipers firing fragment, hollow, or anti material rounds, they will annihilate a good portion of the British force whilst still remaining invisible. Eventually they would have to open up with assault weapons, which would get a significantly better range and accuracy than the muskets, even with machine guns.
They would dance around the outside of the range of the muskets. How the British would call very "cowardly", as they were being picked off.
Also, horses are VERY fragile things, so cavalry is invalid.
You do not need to blow a cannon up, rockets would be a waste. The easiest way to attack these would be to destroy their mainly wood base pieces, thus immobilizing them.
This would win without cheating and using UAV's or air support or tanks/artillery. No need for anything but guns, ammunition, maybe land mines or traps of some kind.
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Chingsters... My school has so many of them. haha... such ridiculous haircuts.
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Jesus is the Trinity.
Gotta love Benji
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fuck me, I notice this EVERY time I go to Ocho Lounge (One near me) it gets me justa bout every time.
[QUOTE=A_flyboy;22253510]The British would lose, the problem in this case is simple... the British would have absolutely no clue where the Rangers are. They could go shoot into the brush or whatever, but if the rangers are in decent camouflage and have silenced snipers firing fragment, hollow, or anti material rounds, they will annihilate a good portion of the British force whilst still remaining invisible. Eventually they would have to open up with assault weapons, which would get a significantly better range and accuracy than the muskets, even with machine guns.
They would dance around the outside of the range of the muskets. How the British would call very "cowardly", as they were being picked off.
Also, horses are VERY fragile things, so cavalry is invalid.
You do not need to blow a cannon up, rockets would be a waste. The easiest way to attack these would be to destroy their mainly wood base pieces, thus immobilizing them.
This would win without cheating and using UAV's or air support or tanks/artillery. No need for anything but guns, ammunition, maybe land mines or traps of some kind.
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Soldiers in that era didn't actually aim, they just stood in a big line, and were trained to fire directly ahead even if they can't see the enemy. You can't really aim wit ha musket, but with a unit of 20 men firing together at once in a line, you could easily kill about 5 men who are about 70-120 meters away. If they're hiding behind stuff however or in different heights then the muskets would most probably miss a lot of them, but I don't think the rangers can "dance around them" seeing as there are 100,000 troops. 100,000 isn't a force you would bring to a single battle, it's enough to go on a campaign, for example in the 30 years war, each side had about 450,000 troops, not for a single battle, but for 30 years worth of war, so if each side had about 100,000 troops, it would've been a 5 years war or maybe a little longer.
With 100,000 troops, all standing in a single-line or two-line formation, it would take several hours for 100 rangers to kill, even if the would just stand there and let them kill them. The best position for the rangers to be in is on a mountain or something where the Brits have to go several lines deep, where it would take about 20% of the time it would take if they had been standing in a single line or two-line formation.
In warfare, quality is usually better than quantity, but the Brits' army is 100 times bigger than the rangers' army, I don't think there ever even was such a battle, and if there was, it would be over quickly.
Change the 100,000-troops army to a Roman-era army of that size, and then maybe the rangers would have a chance.
[QUOTE=jiggu;22253233]We already knew that.[/QUOTE]
Nobody wrote as much as I did and nobody mentioned cannons.
But it was pretty obvious already, and if each picture like that results in 2 pages of discussion of the most unimportant unrelated shit possible then god there will be no LMAO pics.
Maybe there could be a "history discussion" section? :aaa:
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Why is there a broccoli on the wing of the jet?
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A bit late but, what am i supposed to see?
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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightmare_at_20,000_Feet[/url]
A little homage to this?
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;22254304]A bit late but, what am i supposed to see?[/QUOTE]
If you cover the dark line on the cube at the center, both sides will be the same color.
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Ong-Bak (first one) before anyone asks.
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Good bit's start at about 3:50
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On a side note, she's awesome.
That is a fucking awesome film
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I don't get it why so many people choose the US rangers, they don't have that many bullets!
Rage comics, some might be late but hey, this wouldn't be a LMAO thread without the clocks
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Agree
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22253131]The Brits will win, almost 100% sure.
Let's give the Rangers the best odds possible: They are positioned in a way, maybe over a rocky hill or a mountain or something, where all 100 of them are in range to hit an advancing British army, which can only advance through a narrow pass and can encounter only 1 ranger every 2 minutes (so if the army gets to the hill, it would take it 2 minutes to be in range to hit the first ranger, and once he's dead, it would take another 2 minutes to get in range of the next ranger, and so on).
The rangers are each equipped with a few grenades, an assault rifle, and a gun. A few of them also have specialty weapons like snipers or machine guns or rocket launchers.
So, the entire British army surrounds the hill\mountain, while there's only 1 way to climb it, the Brits would then bring heavy artillery (cannons and the like) from all sides, note that they'd be too far away for assault rifles to hit, only sniper rifles and rocket launchers could hit them. So the Brits begin bombarding the hill on all sides, and even if they aren't hitting the rangers, they could still either make new ways for them to get up the hill, or change it in a way that it blocks some of the rangers' view or reduces their cover. The rangers would obviously use snipers and rocket launchers to destroy the cannons or kill their operators, but there will be too many cannons to kill.
(in a 100,000 men army, at least 10% of it would be in charge of artillery, so we've got 10,000 men operating the cannons, with each cannon needing maybe 5 men to operate, that's 2,000 cannons, minimum).
Anyway, after enough bombardment, which could last an hour easily depending on how much ammunition the Brits would have (typically battles in that era would last a few hours and artillery would fire from the beginning to the end).
After the bombardment, we can assume that some of the cannons would be destroyed, the rangers' defensive position would be drastically weakened, and perhaps a few of them would die too, and let's take the worst possible outcome for this: there's 1 extra way now to climb up th hill\mountain. Now, all of the British army would charge. It wouldn't take as long for them to reach each ranger, and some of the rangers' view would be obscured.
I think the Brits would win the battle in about two hours, with several thousand casualties, 20,000 tops, but they'd win, that's almost 100% sure.
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I'm going to completely disagree with this
100 people is approximately a small company of 3 platoons. Each platoon has 3 sections/squads of 10-12 people
In a section you have 2 machine-guns (one Minimi/m249 and one MAG58/M240), 2 grenadiers (M4's with grenade launchers), and the rest riflemen.
In a section each person carries approx 600 rounds in mags and 400 in belt for the section machine-guns, this is for a normal patrol. If their expecting a huge confrontation they can be carrying up to 2000 rounds EACH (800 in mags, 1200 in 5.56 or 7.62 belt). The grenadiers would have 6-10 grenades normally and 20 if expecting a firefight. Each man would carry 3 or more claymores, C4 and half a dozen frag grenades. So in total we're looking at 20000 rounds per section (8000 in mags, 6000 in 5.56, 6000 in 7.62) 40 or more 40mm grenades, 30 odd claymores, shitloads of C4 and 60 odd frag grenades. In total for the company your looking at 200,000 rounds, 400 40mm grenades, 300 claymores, 100 or more KG's of C4, and 600+ grenades.
A key thing to note is that this is for a soldiers expecting a massive firefight, they don't usually carry this unless their expecting.
Another note is that snipers are NOT part of a regular company, their speciality troops brought in for specific missions.
Now you say their out of range? bullshit. Most cannons were fired at 500 metres tops. Effective accurate range of 5.56mm in an M4 is 400-500 metres. That's ACCURATE fire, when you have 100 guys firing it's not going to miss. the Minimi/M249 is accurate upto 600 and can deliver suppressing fire to 1000 metres. MAG58/M240 is accurate to 1000 meters and can deliver suppressing fire to 1600 metres. The lethal range for 5.56 is about 1.5km or 1 mile, with 100 soldiers it's easy to make kills at that distance
Back in the 1800's no army had weapons effective to 1000 metres. Another key thing to note is their tactics were used against ADVANCING WAVE ARMIES. They also used advancing wave armies. Wave armies were rendered obsolete by the machine-gun. If you fired a machine-gun at a clump of a couple hundred soldiers they won't miss, pretty much every bullet would hit a soldier. If you felt like it you could lob a few 40mm grenades into the clumps, making a mess. If they got too close they run into fields of claymores and die. Your grenades could be used a booby traps in conjunction with claymores, strapping C4 to the granges then adding rocks and scraps of metal would work well. Any troop who got close would be easily taken out by a modern soldier with an M4
The poster also said cannon balls, these are OBSOLETE pieces of crap. They're designed for use against waves of troops. They're VERY inaccurate and sure as hell won't hit a few people at 500 metres. Any modern soldier knows what to do against artillery, spread out. This is even easier because they didn't explode back then. Using a hill as a staging area will make the machine-gun fire more effective but more venerable too a massive barrage of musket fire, so they answer is fighting holes or FOXHOLES. these will stop most muskets and if the soldier ducks the cannon fire will go over the top of them. Muskets use slow moving projectiles that area easily stopped by modern body armour, increasing survival rates.
All in all I predict a massive win for the rangers, 25% casualties tops. For the British I predict 95% casualties
/Counter rant
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Made this to put it in some perspective:
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British army has muskets and horses.
Rangers have tactical warfare and tanks.
This isn't even the same tactic, one of the group will just charge and scream like hell and lose a lot of men, though reaching the objective, while the other will just sit down and watch the firework.
This literally happened to me, I unlocked the akimbo model 18s and went to town all night long and finally went to sleep. The next morning I woke up and downloaded the patch and was sad when the guns sucked cock. I made this rage comic myself.
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