LMAO Pics v.52 - No Pictures. Text Only. Final Destination.
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Play on hardcore, you can kill someone with the akimbo 18s with a single shot in the leg, even after the 1.07.
[QUOTE=ksenior;22255855]I'm going to completely disagree with this
100 people is approximately a small company of 3 platoons. Each platoon has 3 sections/squads of 10-12 people
In a section you have 2 machine-guns (one Minimi/m249 and one MAG58/M240), 2 grenadiers (M4's with grenade launchers), and the rest riflemen.
In a section each person carries approx 600 rounds in mags and 400 in belt for the section machine-guns, this is for a normal patrol. If their expecting a huge confrontation they can be carrying up to 2000 rounds EACH (800 in mags, 1200 in 5.56 or 7.62 belt). The grenadiers would have 6-10 grenades normally and 20 if expecting a firefight. Each man would carry 3 or more claymores, C4 and half a dozen frag grenades. So in total we're looking at 20000 rounds per section (8000 in mags, 6000 in 5.56, 6000 in 7.62) 40 or more 40mm grenades, 30 odd claymores, shitloads of C4 and 60 odd frag grenades. In total for the company your looking at 200,000 rounds, 400 40mm grenades, 300 claymores, 100 or more KG's of C4, and 600+ grenades.
A key thing to note is that this is for a soldiers expecting a massive firefight, they don't usually carry this unless their expecting.
Another note is that snipers are NOT part of a regular company, their speciality troops brought in for specific missions.
Now you say their out of range? bullshit. Most cannons were fired at 500 metres tops. Effective accurate range of 5.56mm in an M4 is 400-500 metres. That's ACCURATE fire, when you have 100 guys firing it's not going to miss. the Minimi/M249 is accurate upto 600 and can deliver suppressing fire to 1000 metres. MAG58/M240 is accurate to 1000 meters and can deliver suppressing fire to 1600 metres. The lethal range for 5.56 is about 1.5km or 1 mile, with 100 soldiers it's easy to make kills at that distance
Back in the 1800's no army had weapons effective to 1000 metres. Another key thing to note is their tactics were used against ADVANCING WAVE ARMIES. They also used advancing wave armies. Wave armies were rendered obsolete by the machine-gun. If you fired a machine-gun at a clump of a couple hundred soldiers they won't miss, pretty much every bullet would hit a soldier. If you felt like it you could lob a few 40mm grenades into the clumps, making a mess. If they got too close they run into fields of claymores and die. Your grenades could be used a booby traps in conjunction with claymores, strapping C4 to the granges then adding rocks and scraps of metal would work well. Any troop who got close would be easily taken out by a modern soldier with an M4
The poster also said cannon balls, these are OBSOLETE pieces of crap. They're designed for use against waves of troops. They're VERY inaccurate and sure as hell won't hit a few people at 500 metres. Any modern soldier knows what to do against artillery, spread out. This is even easier because they didn't explode back then. Using a hill as a staging area will make the machine-gun fire more effective but more venerable too a massive barrage of musket fire, so they answer is fighting holes or FOXHOLES. these will stop most muskets and if the soldier ducks the cannon fire will go over the top of them. Muskets use slow moving projectiles that area easily stopped by modern body armour, increasing survival rates.
All in all I predict a massive win for the rangers, 25% casualties tops. For the British I predict 95% casualties
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I'm not as informed on modern military as I am on historical one, depending on the eras, but I'm pretty sure artillery could fire for a range much longer than 500m. I couldn't find the range for cannons used in the American Revolutionary war, but in the American Civil War cannons could reach 1,700 meters. I can assume that cannons during the Revolutionary war reached at least 1,000 meters, so with 2,000 (I may have exaggerated that amount, let's say 1,500) cannons firing at the rangers' position nonstop, with a firing speed of about 1 shot per minute, for a full hour, with fire coming from the rangers destroying the cannons at (just a guess) 5 cannons per minute, I think this would severely reduce the rangers' defensive position, while the rangers would also use a lot of ammo to destroy the cannons.
Now for the battle itself: The Brits would charge from all directions, with about 100,000 troops. Now, I don't think you realize just how many troops this means. During the whole 18th century, the biggest battles (from a quick search: Cowpens, Saratoga, Plains of Abraham) never featured more than 20,000 troops. The battles of Saratoga had a wooping 7,200 vs 9,000 troops in the first battle, and 6,600 vs 12,000 troops for the second, that's a little less than 20,000, for both sides combined.
The battlefield I'm imagining is a little similar to this:
[img]http://www.infoaddict.com/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/www.ceidot.com/twtr/empire/resimler/Empire__Total_War-Alpine_battle_2.jpg[/img]
The rangers would position themselves on the top of the mountain in the background, while the Brits will bombard from a little closer than the camera's viewpoint (maybe from the closest trees to the camera). The troops with their backs to the camera are a little less than 800 in numbers (each flag is a unit, 6 units X 120 troops in each unit). Imagine all those 6 units, 125 times, that's 100,000 troops, charging from all sides on the mountain ahead.
The rangers could fire machine guns nonstop, but they won't be able to kill such a huge amount of troops, charging on all directions possible, there is also the factor of ammo which needs to be reloaded and will be gone after a while (I'm not really sure how many bullets do machine guns fire in a second or how many each magazine can hold). By the time the British army would reach the top of the mountain, at best the rangers could kill about half of them, even with best use of grenades and other explosives.
please, make a thread about it, don't post about it in here, even though it's interesting and shit like that
[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22256395]Huge ass post[/QUOTE]
Remember there would also be a shitload of cavalry running out and charging from every possible side.
[QUOTE=Gurant;22256475]please, make a thread about it, don't post about it in here, even though it's interesting and shit like that[/QUOTE]
agree'd
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I can tell you first hand a drummer in a band, nothing gives me more joy than this.
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[QUOTE=Political Gamer;22256820][IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/19lfv8.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I would so read X-Men if Cyclops used his blade-eyes to headbutt people to death.
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I dont understand sudoku either.
[QUOTE=Political Gamer;22256820][IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/19lfv8.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Laserine and Cyclaw!
Also here is an idea for the 100,000 British riflemen vs 50 US rangers.
Go play Empire Earth 2 or Empire Earth 3.
Create a custom battle about that. Pit a modern 21st century riflemen vs a 17th century musketeers
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No cheats. Just battle
[QUOTE=BCell;22257266]Laserine and Cyclaw!
Also here is an idea for the 100,000 British riflemen vs 50 US rangers.
Go play Empire Earth 2 or Empire Earth 3.
Create a custom battle about that. Pit a modern 21st century riflemen vs a 17th century musketeers
[editline]11:25PM[/editline]
No cheats. Just battle[/QUOTE]
Empire Earth was so much fun. Especially playing online and everyone was friendly, and you just built. Until somebody wanted to be a bad guy and attack, and everyone would just rape them.
[QUOTE=Political Gamer;22256820][IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/19lfv8.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I think Wolverine benefits from this trade quite a bit more than Cyclops.
[QUOTE=BCell;22257266]Laserine and Cyclaw!
Also here is an idea for the 100,000 British riflemen vs 50 US rangers.
Go play Empire Earth 2 or Empire Earth 3.
Create a custom battle about that. Pit a modern 21st century riflemen vs a 17th century musketeers
[editline]11:25PM[/editline]
No cheats. Just battle[/QUOTE]
Depends on how realistic the battles there are, BTW the pic is 100,000 vs 100.
I played on EE2 today for about 3 hours.
Shit's fun.
Deutschland uber alle
last warning
Hey how about a new battle!
Let's say 100 US troops
[img]http://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/american-soldiers.jpg[/img]
vs.
10 British SAS snipers.
[img]http://www.nps.gov/slbe/planyourvisit/images/maple_beach_forest_556x400.jpg[/img]
take care
You can't ban him for making that good of a joke
Is this late?
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[QUOTE=Dapwnner;22257700]Is this late?
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I was there on that exact date, right under the eiffel tower
EDIT:
I was also with a friend of mine, I was in a coat, wearing a white t-shirt and sporting jeans. I went there to conquer my fear of heights. We then went to a local cafe (I had to rely on my friend because I can't speak a lick of french) and we ate there and went on a bus back to the hotel we were staying in. I enjoyed Paris; even though I dislike the french.
How about this kid
[img]http://i.imgur.com/MvNxa.gif[/img]
vs all the jackasses using this thread to discuss shit.
Is Imageshack suddenly really, really fucking slow for everybody now?
For the past few weeks, every image I've seen that's been uploaded on Imageshack loads ridiculously slow for me, while other image hosts are perfectly fine.
[QUOTE=gmaster;22257545]Hey how about a new battle!
10 British SAS snipers.
[IMG]http://www.nps.gov/slbe/planyourvisit/images/maple_beach_forest_556x400.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Are the any people there :confused:
I need more boxes
Alright, Now how about this? Who would win
10000 U.S Troops?
[IMG]http://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/american-soldiers.jpg[/IMG]
or 10 mother fucking Chaos Space Marines
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[QUOTE=gmaster;22257545]Hey how about a new battle!
Let's say 100 US troops
[img]http://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/american-soldiers.jpg[/img]
vs.
10 British SAS snipers.
[img]http://www.nps.gov/slbe/planyourvisit/images/maple_beach_forest_556x400.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
50 dollars on the snipers. Us troops Cant even fire guns. Sas Snipers kill 4 of your Comrads before you even notice
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[QUOTE=ica|kvantum;22257905]Are the any people there :confused:[/QUOTE]
Nope
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