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The little house that could.
[QUOTE=Crimor;45128807]Probably insane water damage on that house though.[/QUOTE] The fact that you felt the need to point that out genuinely upsets me.
[QUOTE=OvB;45128622]That picture reminds me of this one after Hurricane Ike: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/aw35wIy.jpg[/IMG] It's crazy how sometimes one building is seemingly spared while everything around it is demolished.[/QUOTE] I always wondered why you don't build concrete reinforced houses in the USA like we do in europe.Instead, we should build them wooden, because there's literally no tornadoes or hurricanes... [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/JJLxaK0.gif[/thumb] uranium ore [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/P0u2neO.jpg[/thumb]
Because in a coastal town like that, looks are everything. Efficiency and safety be damned when it comes to homes; if it's not pretty then people don't want it. If they have eyesore houses, then tourism will drop because of the ugly scenery, and if the tourism drop, then the town's main industry dies and falls back to it's roots of being a nothing but a small fishing town.
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North America tried making houses entirely out of concrete in the 60's. The problem was that most of these houses tried to be ultra modern and were too expensive to mass produce or were so incredibly ugly that by the 00's they were all demolished. They still try and push new all-concrete construction but the designers still have their heads so far up their asses that they still can't make them cheap and they still look [b][i]INCREDIBLY[/b][/i] ugly. [img]http://www.900house.com/images/JD-Concrete-House-04-900x599.jpg[/img] [img]http://archpick.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/stylish-concrete-house.jpg[/img] [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UAYm1AD8T4A/UWqFJvGbMzI/AAAAAAAAAaA/hxkAkjO01w8/s1600/concrete-house2.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.banidea.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Red-House-V-4.jpg[/img] It's not fucking rocket science. Pour the foundation, walls and roof out of concrete, THEN cover the walls with 12' spaced 1" wooden strips so you can mount things like drywall or vinyl siding. Suddenly you have a house that is close to bombproof but doesn't look like a cement block.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;45131733]Because in a coastal town like that, looks are everything. Efficiency and safety be damned when it comes to homes; if it's not pretty then people don't want it. If they have eyesore houses, then tourism will drop because of the ugly scenery, and if the tourism drop, then the town's main industry dies and falls back to it's roots of being a nothing but a small fishing town.[/QUOTE] Since when has efficiency and safety meant houses have to look bad? With modern technology and materials you can create nearly anything you want and still have it be storm proof. People are pretty stupid if they don't take the power of nature into account when building. The house will always be outside so it should be build to withstand the environment.
[QUOTE=Jukka K;45131953]Since when has efficiency and safety meant houses have to look bad? With modern technology and materials you can create nearly anything you want and still have it be storm proof. People are pretty stupid if they don't take the power of nature into account when building. The house will always be outside so it should be build to withstand the environment.[/QUOTE] yea like I said, coastal towns are fucking stupid. They're built to look pretty, not survive the elements or last a century. Most of the houses built directly on the coast are going to be several decades old and made of wood. The age combined with decay from the salt-air and salt water makes for horribly flimsy buildings. If they built the home to last then it would be awfully ugly, and no yuppie would dump 2 million dollars into it to buy it if it was ugly. Gotta remember that coastal property is stupidly expensive in the US. That one remaining house in that Hurricane Ivan photo probably cost 2 or 3 million brand new, and even just the land it's built on is probably worth 1 or 2 million.
[QUOTE=pentium;45131935]North America tried making houses entirely out of concrete in the 60's. The problem was that most of these houses tried to be ultra modern and were too expensive to mass produce or were so incredibly ugly that by the 00's they were all demolished. They still try and push new all-concrete construction but the designers still have their heads so far up their asses that they still can't make them cheap and they still look [b][i]INCREDIBLY[/b][/i] ugly. [img]http://www.900house.com/images/JD-Concrete-House-04-900x599.jpg[/img] [img]http://archpick.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/stylish-concrete-house.jpg[/img] [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UAYm1AD8T4A/UWqFJvGbMzI/AAAAAAAAAaA/hxkAkjO01w8/s1600/concrete-house2.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.banidea.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Red-House-V-4.jpg[/img] It's not fucking rocket science. Pour the foundation, walls and roof out of concrete, THEN cover the walls with 12' spaced 1" wooden strips so you can mount things like drywall or vinyl siding. Suddenly you have a house that is close to bombproof but doesn't look like a cement block.[/QUOTE] Well you've gotten a bit worked up about architecture. I quite like the starkness.
[QUOTE=pentium;45131935]North America tried making houses entirely out of concrete in the 60's. The problem was that most of these houses tried to be ultra modern and were too expensive to mass produce or were so incredibly ugly that by the 00's they were all demolished. They still try and push new all-concrete construction but the designers still have their heads so far up their asses that they still can't make them cheap and they still look [B][I]INCREDIBLY[/I][/B] ugly. [IMG]http://www.banidea.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Red-House-V-4.jpg[/IMG] It's not fucking rocket science. Pour the foundation, walls and roof out of concrete, THEN cover the walls with 12' spaced 1" wooden strips so you can mount things like drywall or vinyl siding. Suddenly you have a house that is close to bombproof but doesn't look like a cement block.[/QUOTE] Might be because Finland is so fucking cold and everything we have is from the 70's, but my experience with concrete is that it cracks after a couple of years. But my money is on the weather doing that.
I'd do a house of concrete, the only thing you have to worry about is that bacteria that eats concrete. Other than that, fire proof, and flood proof.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;45131733]Because in a coastal town like that, looks are everything. Efficiency and safety be damned when it comes to homes; if it's not pretty then people don't want it. If they have eyesore houses, then tourism will drop because of the ugly scenery, and if the tourism drop, then the town's main industry dies and falls back to it's roots of being a nothing but a small fishing town.[/QUOTE] Yeah but you could use concrete and still look good. Like literally the ones I've seen are made out of plywood in US. like even after hurricanes the houses still look like they are made out of plywood. Maybe stronger. [IMG]http://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/images/648261.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/GLOB/crop/4405x2414+396+675/resize/604x327!/format/jpg/quality/85/http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/adam/9171f1b5b9f79269f9cd41b855ddd063/70a3a982c45b4b90b42ef964f77b0556.jpeg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;45133208]Yeah but you could use concrete and still look good. Like literally the ones I've seen are made out of plywood in US. like even after hurricanes the houses still look like they are made out of plywood. Maybe stronger[/QUOTE] For some places, it's cheaper to just keep rebuilding the house every few decades rather than to try to build an unbreakable house, especially since even in a concrete house most of your belongings will get destroyed.
[QUOTE=pentium;45131935] [img]http://archpick.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/stylish-concrete-house.jpg[/img] [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UAYm1AD8T4A/UWqFJvGbMzI/AAAAAAAAAaA/hxkAkjO01w8/s1600/concrete-house2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] these look pretty cool tho
Guys we build houses out of wood because its safer than concrete. You're thinking survive-ability of the house rather than occupants.
i flew myself to des moines to get a good burger last week and took a cool photo. thought i'd share [t]http://i.imgur.com/f9neOZ1.jpg?1[/t]
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;45134613]i flew myself to des moines to get a good burger last week[/QUOTE] That sentence is just badass on its own
[QUOTE=TheHANGOVER;45134597]Guys we build houses out of wood because its safer than concrete. You're thinking survive-ability of the house rather than occupants.[/QUOTE] High winds and waves aren't going to collapse a small house made of reinforced concrete.
[QUOTE=God of Ashes;45134613]i flew myself to des moines to get a good burger last week and took a cool photo. thought i'd share [t]http://i.imgur.com/f9neOZ1.jpg?1[/t][/QUOTE] Sunrays are beautiful. I always try and snap a shot when I see them. Here's a pic of Epsom race course from a couple of years ago [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14208311/photo%288%29.JPG[/t]
[QUOTE=Jukka K;45134724]High winds and waves aren't going to collapse a small house made of reinforced concrete.[/QUOTE] You got to understand anything you build on the beach is just fucked when a major hurricane comes around. It doesn't matter what you build the structure out of the foundations made of sand, and those waves will rip that sand right out from under that building making it unlivable. Now if you go inland a bit away from the beach, I know this is true in places like Orlando, the first floor is made out of concrete block to offer some hurricane protection with floors above still made of a wood structure.
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[QUOTE=TheHANGOVER;45135158]You got to understand anything you build on the beach is just fucked when a major hurricane comes around. It doesn't matter what you build the structure out of the foundations made of sand, and those waves will rip that sand right out from under that building making it unlivable. Now if you go inland a bit away from the beach, I know this is true in places like Orlando, the first floor is made out of concrete block to offer some hurricane protection with floors above still made of a wood structure.[/QUOTE] That is why you always make the foundation to contact with the bedrock or other supporting layer via pillars or other means. Letting the house just sit on the sand is of course a stupid idea.
[QUOTE=Jukka K;45135720]That is why you always make the foundation to contact with the bedrock or other supporting layer via pillars or other means. Letting the house just sit on the sand is of course a stupid idea.[/QUOTE] wouldnt that cost a shitload of money though? if you were to do it for most beach houses that is
Deep foundations are very common here. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_foundation[/url]
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;45135751]wouldnt that cost a shitload of money though? if you were to do it for most beach houses that is[/QUOTE] Depends on how much there is sand before some form of supporting layer. But really, which costs more: building one good house that can withstand a storm or two, or building one that will definitely get totally blown away when the first serious storm hits, meaning you have to build another one.
Screw Comp Sci I wanna be an architect now.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;45131733]Because in a coastal town like that, looks are everything. Efficiency and safety be damned when it comes to homes; if it's not pretty then people don't want it. If they have eyesore houses, then tourism will drop because of the ugly scenery, and if the tourism drop, then the town's main industry dies and falls back to it's roots of being a nothing but a small fishing town.[/QUOTE] So every coastal town and city makes their living from tourism, when nearly 50% of the earth's population lives in less than 150km from coast? So we go from our coastal town to see another coastal town, because why not? In reality majority of the coastal cities and towns base their economy on trade, harbors, industry, fisheries, agriculture... Only some paradise islands and other smaller places have their economy mostly based on tourism. And how does efficiency and safety come with price of beaty? People have built their homes for centuries from stone and brick, and they tend to be more beatifull than wooden ones... [IMG]http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Travel/Tours/England/Cotswolds/BurfordHouse2.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://blog.mipimworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Copenhagen-Europes-greenest-major-city_credit-JamesZ.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.rakentaja.fi/artikkelit/img/20102/20319_p_ver-1.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.suomela.fi/wp-content/uploads/Global/Finland/Muut-kuvat/2011/rakentaminen/09/tiilitalo-energiatehokkaasti/tiilienergia-espoo.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;45131978]yea like I said, coastal towns are fucking stupid. They're built to look pretty, not survive the elements or last a century. Most of the houses built directly on the coast are going to be several decades old and made of wood. The age combined with decay from the salt-air and salt water makes for horribly flimsy buildings. If they built the home to last then it would be awfully ugly, and no yuppie would dump 2 million dollars into it to buy it if it was ugly. Gotta remember that coastal property is stupidly expensive in the US. That one remaining house in that Hurricane Ivan photo probably cost 2 or 3 million brand new, and even just the land it's built on is probably worth 1 or 2 million.[/QUOTE] Coast provides trade, food and wealth, why they're stupid? Nearly every European coastal city has centuries of old stone/brick buildings, and they're often really beatiful. They may require bit more upkeep (paintjob) than inland ones, but the difference is not crucial. I wouldn't spend 2M home just for couple of decades and then demolish it from the way of new one. I would want to sell it after the couple of decades with 2M+. Also not every inhabitant on the coastline are wealthy, only in the vicinity of major cities... [QUOTE=Binladen34;45132916]I'd do a house of concrete, the only thing you have to worry about is that bacteria that eats concrete. Other than that, fire proof, and flood proof.[/QUOTE] And wood doesn't have anything damaging it? :v: Termites, bacteria, fungi... [QUOTE=TheHANGOVER;45135158]You got to understand anything you build on the beach is just fucked when a major hurricane comes around. It doesn't matter what you build the structure out of the foundations made of sand, and those waves will rip that sand right out from under that building making it unlivable. Now if you go inland a bit away from the beach, I know this is true in places like Orlando, the first floor is made out of concrete block to offer some hurricane protection with floors above still made of a wood structure.[/QUOTE] Deep foundations are must in sandy areas. Unless you want your house to sink in the sand even without hurricanes? [QUOTE=TheHANGOVER;45134597]Guys we build houses out of wood because its safer than concrete. You're thinking survive-ability of the house rather than occupants.[/QUOTE] What makes wood safer than concrete, brick or stone? In hurricane wood will splinter and those flying splinters can cause serious injury or even kill. Also light structures can collapse much much much more easily and crush the inhabitants.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;45134710]That sentence is just badass on its own[/QUOTE] if you're ever in that area go to zombie burger it's pretty delicious [editline]17th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=FDiz;45135129]Sunrays are beautiful. I always try and snap a shot when I see them. Here's a pic of Epsom race course from a couple of years ago [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14208311/photo%288%29.JPG[/t][/QUOTE] they're pretty incredible. pictures never quite do them justice
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;45131733]Because in a coastal town like that, looks are everything. Efficiency and safety be damned when it comes to homes; if it's not pretty then people don't want it. If they have eyesore houses, then tourism will drop because of the ugly scenery, and if the tourism drop, then the town's main industry dies and falls back to it's roots of being a nothing but a small fishing town.[/QUOTE] The houses that were there were all built on stilts at least 10 feet up. Typically the stilts were about 10x10 wood pilings driven into the ground. The problem is the storm surge was well over that. The houses were picked up off the stilts and the stilts eroded away. Now days all the new build replacements are twice as high, with stilts twice as thick and sometimes out of concrete. They're also planning on building an "Ike Dike" that would be one of the biggest barriers in the world.
I still don't get it.You think wooden is pretty; and I agree, especially if it looks like this: [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/bSZ0c0o.jpg[/thumb] Ok so if you live in the west I'll agree with you, it's ok to build wooden. But if you live in an area prone to tornatoes/hurricanes, would you rather die in a wooden house or live in a reinforced brick/concrete house? Concrete is VERY fragile and breakable on its own, but add these babies to the mix and it's hundreds of times harder: [thumb]http://www.hop.uk.com/services-specialist/images/rc/1.JPG[/thumb] same story with brick
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