• Why are there no shooters where you play from the German side?
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[QUOTE=Silent Bang;44020089][IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WLIP0X2kdeQ/T6Z-IAFN6fI/AAAAAAAAAMM/ZSmyNfiOQQ0/s1600/rybfsmkj.jpg[/IMG] I sware in sniper elite V2 you get to sniper Hitler in a DLC[/QUOTE] that isn't the same as playing as a german soldier in the least
[QUOTE=seano12;44020026]The game would get so much negative attention that the publishers would be forced to drop the game entirely. With no monetary support, many of the developers would leave the team leaving only a handful to finish the game while indefinitely searching for a new publisher. This is what happened to a game by the name of Six Days in Fallujah: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Days_in_Fallujah[/URL][/QUOTE] That's slightly different, it's about a recent event which I think would be more controversial than a WW2 game. However I don't think a big name company could pull it off, it would have to be a new indie company that bring it in as they don't have the fear of all the bad publicity.
[QUOTE=racerfan;44020096]Why did this game in specific get so much controversy? In CoD:4/MW2 and the newer Medal of Honor games, you're shooting at arabs for at least part of the time. Plus, there are/were actual soldiers and Iraqi civilans that are helping out with this game.[/QUOTE] I don't know... it's just like that School Shooter 20(11?) game that came out several years ago: It gets media attention and then you have soccer moms and anti-video game people focusing all of their energy to try and stop the game from being released. It's a real shame because the game was supposed to be somewhat educational. Anyway if a game were to be released where there is a strong nazi storyline where you play as a nazi I am positive that this would occur. [editline]23rd February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Frustration96;44020143] However I don't think a big name company could pull it off, it would have to be a new indie company that bring it in as they don't have the fear of all the bad publicity.[/QUOTE] Of course, after all WW2 games aren't profitable anymore.
[QUOTE=seano12;44020026]The game would get so much negative attention that the publishers would be forced to drop the game entirely. With no monetary support, many of the developers would leave the team leaving only a handful to finish the game while indefinitely searching for a new publisher. This is what happened to a game by the name of Six Days in Fallujah: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Days_in_Fallujah[/URL][/QUOTE] I just looked into the link more and holy shit [QUOTE]"Considering the enormous loss of life in the Iraq War, glorifying it in a video game demonstrates very poor judgement and bad taste... It's entirely possible that Muslim families will buy the game, and for them it may prove particularly harrowing. Even worse, it could end up in the hands of a [B]fanatical young Muslim and incite him to consider some form of retaliation or retribution[/B].[/QUOTE] Firstly, WW1 and WW2 also have had enormous losses of life, yet they have plenty of games about them. What pisses me off the most is that he imply's some "fanatical Muslim" would be incited by this video game. If they were that easy to set off on a quest for some form of retaliation then they were going to do something anyway, they make it sound like the second it's released they will have hordes of Muslims blowing up borders, it's ridiculous. Not to mention it's totally fine to make movies/books about these subjects, but let's not even get into that.
Honestly if there did a game as the wehrmacht during the latter half of the war and it just showed the absolutely desperate (sad almost) situation that the average soldier was in, I'd buy it. It'd be one hell of an invert from the "murica fuck yeah" games that dominate FPS's
I don't see any games coming out soon where you play as Germans killing Americans or Brits, the same way where I don't see any games where you play as the NVA or Taliban. However if there was a game where there was a squad of Germans who defect and fight against the Nazis from within their own ranks, I'd buy the shit out of that.
[QUOTE=noneshallpass;44020229]Honestly if there did a game as the wehrmacht during the latter half of the war and it just showed the absolutely desperate (sad almost) situation that the average soldier was in, I'd buy it. It'd be one hell of an invert from the "murica fuck yeah" games that dominate FPS's[/QUOTE] But if you play the game then it makes you an anti-semite!
[QUOTE=seano12;44020265]But if you play the game then it makes you an anti-semite![/QUOTE] your also forgot that every single german in ww2 was a nazi
[QUOTE=noneshallpass;44020229]Honestly if there did a game as the wehrmacht during the latter half of the war and it just showed the absolutely desperate (sad almost) situation that the average soldier was in, I'd buy it. It'd be one hell of an invert from the "murica fuck yeah" games that dominate FPS's[/QUOTE] Maybe make the first part of the game play from the Allied POV, as they are getting beaten by the Germans. Then the second part as members of the local resistance groups (Maybe two levels during the Warsaw uprising), culminating in the last part of the game showing the Germans and Japanese attempting to resist the Allied advance in Germany, Manchuria and the Japanese islands.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;44017255]I assume he means for a single player experience. It's possible yes, but it would take time to make it marketable to people. They just won't like the idea that you play as a Nazi, as the main character. [editline]23rd February 2014[/editline] Same with the Imperial Japanese, especially in Korea and China. The only Axis member we could make a game out of that could be marketable, is a game where you play as an Italian.[/QUOTE] Playing as a Finnish soldier would be cool
[QUOTE=Riller;44017463]I think it's less the part of portraying the Germans as good guys that's the problem; and more the part of portraying the Allies as bad. We've gotten past the every-german-soldier-was-a-terrible-person fad a while back, there's a couple of movies, TV series, books and such that portray the war from the German side. The thing that'd be hard for a wider audience would be justifying shooting Brits and Americans for no good reason. Soviets would be doable, maybe, kinda, sort of.[/QUOTE] The Soviets would be easy to portray as bad, almost as easy as the Germans. The Eastern Front was essentially 2 totalitarian dictators fighting each other. You could have the player arrive at a burned village, and note how they're destroying their own country just so you don't have a roof to sleep under, or arrive at a gulag where all the prisoners have been executed so they can't escape, or even a Stalingrad level where you witness pinned conscripts breaking down trying to decide how they want to die (By the German, or by the Commissar). The Western Allies would be quite a bit more difficult to put in a bad light, they were no white knights but they were way better than the Soviets. I suppose you could bring up the utter humiliation of the Treaty of Versailles, painting the westerners as the ones who gutted Germany in the first place. [QUOTE=bungholioo;44019846]I'd love to see a game where you play as Hitler himself leading the Nazi army during WW2 and attempt to take over the world. The campaign of the Third Reich would be long and epic spanning numerous large battles and conquests. You'd also have to continue the Holocaust and manage the concentration camps. Of course in this game Hitler's suicide wouldn't have happened and there would be a happy ending where Hitler ends up taking over the world. I'd buy this.[/QUOTE] And diplomatic relations! Remember kids, Hitler actually wanted to [I]ally[/I] with the Westerners to fight Communism. The problem was, he felt they wouldn't listen as long as they thought they could beat him, so he tried to put up the image of controlling an unstoppable force. Judging with the types of people the Americans allied with during the Cold War to do the same, perhaps Hitler should have just waited 20 years.. [editline]23rd February 2014[/editline] Actually they could also use the game to show the viewpoint of the German Soldier as well, he could start off supporting his Government in all they do, but near the end he realises the Third Reich's propaganda has tricked him and begins to lament all that he has done, his Nationalism was ms-directed and he should be fighting the Nazi's. If you want to end on a more positive note, the final battle could be the Battle for Castle Itter, where your squad of anti-Nazi Wehrmacht Soldiers joins the Americans to fight off the 17th SS Panzergrenadier Division. This also happens 5 days after Hitler's death, so that could also serve as an excuse for his surrender to the allies prior to the final fight against his true enemy, the Nazis.
I think it'd actually sell pretty well if they market it decently. Like dungeon keeper was loved because it let you be the bad guy. A story that basically shows you and your team as actual you know, humans, and going through tragedy as the war turns against the germans could be really effective.
[URL="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/05/12/world-war-ii-s-strangest-battle-when-americans-and-germans-fought-together.html"]This[/URL] would make for a great game, methinks.
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