Do you believe in E.T. life? - General

The Higgs boson? We know that bosons in general exist.

Yeh HB.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28566697]If you there was never a flood in your house then yes that is proof that there will most likely not be one the next day.[/QUOTE] Yes, it is proof that there's will most likely not be a flood. But that doesn't mean it's proof that there won't be one. Just like how life is likely, but there's no evidence of it.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28566697]If you there was never a flood in your house then yes that is proof that there will most likely not be one the next day.[/QUOTE] Uh, no it isn't. That is called evidence.

[QUOTE=Jookia;28566759]Yes, it is proof that there's will most likely not be a flood. But that doesn't mean it's proof that there won't be one. Just like how life is likely, but there's no evidence of it.[/QUOTE] Well yes that's the whole point really. The problem is he is forcing everyone to believe one option (to be 100% sure there is life somewhere) and tries to convince people with invalid arguments, while saying the other option (Wich is really 50/50 if there is no evidence) is stupid. That just doesn't make sence.

Stop with the arguments. Many of us believe that because there is so many planets in the Universe and because Earth can support life that at least one other has to be similar, BUT we do not have any proof to support this.

Wel yes, none of us said that's bad. We were talking to pal670 really.

There's one way to discover it: OP phone home.

[QUOTE=Jookia;28566759]it is proof that there's will most likely not be a flood. But that doesn't mean it's proof that there won't be one. [/QUOTE] Just like there is proof that there is most likely life out there. Now do you get it? its not a fact but its logical to believe there most likely is. [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28566777]Uh, no it isn't. That is called evidence.[/QUOTE] past events can be used to calculate the probability of something.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28568017]Just like there is proof that there is most likely life out there. Now do you get it? its not a fact but its logical to believe there most likely is. [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] past events can be used to calculate the probability of something.[/QUOTE] It's not logical when the chances are 50/50. Then it's choosing the one [B]you[/B] like. (Since it can't be proven/disproven black on white)

[QUOTE=Cornelisjuh;28568157]It's not logical when the chances are 50/50. Then it's choosing the one [B]you[/B] like. (Since it can't be proven/disproven black on white)[/QUOTE] 50/50? whats 50/50?

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28568017]Just like there is proof that there is most likely life out there. Now do you get it? its not a fact but its logical to believe there most likely is. [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] past events can be used to calculate the probability of something.[/QUOTE] Proof implies that something can be shown to be true with absolute metaphysical certainty. "My house has ever flooded, therefore it will never flood," is not a valid proof.

I never said it will never but the likely hood of it happening the next day goes down. We use this to tell the chances of a disaster happening. Past events can be used to tell how likely something is.

There is no evidence that extraterrestial life exists, but it is not illogical to assume that it probably does.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28568312]I never said it will never but the likely hood of it happening the next day goes down. We use this to tell the chances of a disaster happening. Past events can be used to tell how likely something is.[/QUOTE] So you don't have proof that extraterrestrials exist?

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28568312]I never said it will never but the likely hood of it happening the next day goes down. We use this to tell the chances of a disaster happening. Past events can be used to tell how likely something is.[/QUOTE] Not really. That's called the gambler's fallacy. Say you flip a coin. The chance of it being heads is 50%. You flip it three times in a row and get tails every time. Does that mean you're probably going to get tails next time?

[QUOTE=Jookia;28568386]I'm not talking about probability, I'm talking about evidence.[/QUOTE] It can count as evidence. This is what I was explaining. Something can have evidence but still not be a complete theory. Knowing that your someone stole your gameboy and the only 2 people who were around where a crack head who takes stuff all the time or your friend who doesn't you know that because of past events you have proof that the crack head was the one who took it. [editline]12th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28568397]Not really. That's called the gambler's fallacy. Say you flip a coin. The chance of it being heads is 50%. You flip it three times in a row and get tails every time. Does that mean you're probably going to get tails next time?[/QUOTE] Yes I thought about that but if there is a difference between the 2 choices (unlike heads or tails) then its different.

That's not proof.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28568446]It can count as evidence. This is what I was explaining. Something can have evidence but still not be a complete theory. Knowing that your someone stole your gameboy and the only 2 people who were around where a crack head who takes stuff all the time or your friend who doesn't you know that because of past events you have proof that the crack head was the one who took it.[/QUOTE] It's just likely that the crack head took it, but there's no proof they did. Probability isn't proof.

[QUOTE=Jookia;28568524]It's just likely that the crack head took it, but there's no proof they did. Probability isn't proof.[/QUOTE] It is if it indicates which one did it.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28568535]It is if it indicates which one did it.[/QUOTE] It doesn't indicate it. Let's say Bob (a pedophile and child abuser recently released from prison) lives on a street. A model child with role model parents move in. A year later, the child is raped and murdered. Did Bob do it? Everything points to him, so that's evidence?

Fact is I KNOW that there have been things from other worlds visiting this meek little planet!

[QUOTE=pal670;28568707]Fact is I KNOW that there have been things from other worlds visiting this meek little planet![/QUOTE] But you don't have any evidence for it?

Yep, nothing that can be put on the internet without compromising military personnel though. Although he is Ex-Mil now, don't think it would be nice to show off his keepsakes.

[QUOTE=Jookia;28568699]It doesn't indicate it. Let's say Bob (a pedophile and child abuser recently released from prison) lives on a street. A model child with role model parents move in. A year later, the child is raped and murdered. Did Bob do it? Everything points to him, so that's evidence?[/QUOTE] Bob would obviously be a suspect because of his past actions. Sure the proof that doesn't make it a 100% chance that he did it but its still proof.

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28568778]Bob would obviously be a suspect because of his past actions. Sure the proof that doesn't make it a 100% chance that he did it but its still proof.[/QUOTE] Suspicion isn't proof. Proof is irrefutable. [QUOTE=pal670;28568761]Yep, nothing that can be put on the internet without compromising military personnel though. Although he is Ex-Mil now, don't think it would be nice to show off his keepsakes.[/QUOTE] In other words, no evidence that you can show anybody?

[QUOTE=Jookia;28568806]Suspicion isn't proof. In other words, no evidence that you can show anybody?[/QUOTE] Oh ofcourse I can show it to people under a strict NDA, only show people that I really trust, nothing I'd post on an internet forum, especially FP. If you are in the East Anglia area, then maybe. It's purely a collection of documents and sanctions from an ex-mil base, paints a VERY clear picture.

[QUOTE=pal670;28568841]Oh ofcourse I can show it to people under a strict NDA, only show people that I really trust, nothing I'd post on an internet forum, especially FP. If you are in the East Anglia area, then maybe.[/QUOTE] Hang on a second, you have evidence that extra terrestrials exist, something that nobody has been able to provide, but you won't put it on the Internet and cause a milestone in the history of science?

I believe in some other kind of life somewhere else out there. Maybe there is life on Mars, only our eyes can't see them or whatever.

[QUOTE=Jookia;28568865]Hang on a second, you have evidence that extra terrestrials exist, something that nobody has been able to provide, but you won't put it on the Internet and cause a milestone in the history of science?[/QUOTE] If you look on the internet, you can find many MANY MANY examples of such documents, it's just the goverments are very capable of covering stuff up, even people that have reported to media have been taken in, so why would you go there? I am content in knowing in myself and within my group what is indeed the truth. Do a bit of research and you will find some very credible stuff inbetween alot of the junk.