[QUOTE=pal670;28568937]If you look on the internet, you can find many MANY MANY examples of such documents, it's just the goverments are very capable of covering stuff up, even people that have reported to media have been taken in, so why would you go there?
I am content in knowing in myself and within my group what is indeed the truth.
Do a bit of research and you will find some very credible stuff inbetween alot of the junk.[/QUOTE]
I've done some serious research on the matter, and haven't found any actual evidence. I can only conclude that you're lying right now. You're saying that you have evidence, but you don't provide evidence that you do.
I do believe in life at other planets, it's just the vision that people have about aliens. It's so fucked up
You can't have looked very far, especially if you search for military documents, and look under the Disclosure project, where there are countless ex-military with documents presented.
I see humans as the high-tech alien. We evaded Mars and we have the technology to live on other planets.
[QUOTE=pal670;28569019]You can't have looked very far, especially if you search for military documents, and look under the Disclosure project, where there are countless ex-military with documents presented.[/QUOTE]
The disclosure project is just testimonials and other stuff that aren't reliable evidence.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28568778]Bob would obviously be a suspect because of his past actions. Sure the proof that doesn't make it a 100% chance that he did it but its still proof.[/QUOTE]
Proof indicates 100% certainty by definition.
[QUOTE=Jookia;28569059]The disclosure project is just testimonials and other stuff that aren't reliable evidence.[/QUOTE]
So ex-military that worked many years in service and can be reprimanded by the military (as many are breaking NDA), provide documents and testimonials is not credible evidence? What do you want? Them to lay a fucking ET on your front door?
[QUOTE=pal670;28569094]So ex-military that worked many years in service and can be reprimanded by the military (as many are breaking NDA), provide documents and testimonials is not credible evidence? What do you want? Them to lay a fucking ET on your front door?[/QUOTE]
I want peer-reviewed, testable and factual evidence. You know, science.
Something you will probably NEVER get unless Disclosure project gets what they want, a government that admits to having met ET's for over 70 years and keeping it from the public, is going to get massacred.
The fact they have allowed certain things to happen due to this contact, would mean that they will have lost ALL power.
Best you will get is to listen to these distinguished ex-military and look at the evidence provided, alot of it goes VERY high up and is pretty much certified.
[QUOTE=pal670;28569094]So ex-military that worked many years in service and can be reprimanded by the military (as many are breaking NDA), provide documents and testimonials is not credible evidence? What do you want? Them to lay a fucking ET on your front door?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
I can't believe people actual believe aliens have contacted humans when all we ever seem to get are sketchy alleged eyewitness reports and blurry pictures. (that are usually hoaxes)
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28569176]Yes.
I can't believe people actual believe aliens have contacted humans when all we ever seem to get are sketchy alleged eyewitness reports and blurry pictures. (that are usually hoaxes)[/QUOTE]
Alot of hoaxes, but not from ex-military personnel that provide clear and concise military documents. Knowing they will get skullfucked by the military afterwards, it is not worth it for a hoax, and the 5000+ military signed up to the Disclosure project wouldn't lie.
Some of them even used to be head of FBI/CIA/other government sources, so they have no need to lie and can provide ALOT of evidence, they still hold alot of power so it's important to listen.
I never said they were lying.
[QUOTE=pal670;28569172]Something you will probably NEVER get unless Disclosure project gets what they want, a government that admits to having met ET's for over 70 years and keeping it from the public, is going to get massacred.
The fact they have allowed certain things to happen due to this contact, would mean that they will have lost ALL power.
Best you will get is to listen to these distinguished ex-military and look at the evidence provided, alot of it goes VERY high up and is pretty much certified.[/QUOTE]
The government can't fucking hide things. Look at Wikileaks. There's no things about aliens or 9/11 being an inside job there, just corrupt banks and collateral murder.
And you somehow think the world is getting along. You seriously think the US and the soviets all kept their mouth shut about aliens, even when they could've been set in history as the discoverers of extraterrestrial life?
North Korea and South Korea are the same goddamn country and they can't even get along, what makes you think governments who hate each other wouldn't? The soviets lost the space race, wouldn't it make sense to reveal extraterrestrials to spite the US?
[QUOTE=Jookia;28569285]The government can't fucking hide things. Look at Wikileaks. There's no things about aliens or 9/11 being an inside job there, just corrupt banks and collateral murder.
And you somehow think the world is getting along. You seriously think the US and the soviets all kept their mouth shut about aliens, even when they could've been set in history as the discoverers of extraterrestrial life?
North Korea and South Korea are the same goddamn country and they can't even get along, what makes you think governments who hate each other wouldn't? The soviets lost the space race, wouldn't it make sense to reveal extraterrestrials to spite the US?[/QUOTE]
Because there is a bigger concern for ET's, Russia would not be stupid enough to disclose information (if they have indeed been visited), for the world to know that there is more than this mere little planet, the governments of the world would collapse and there would be revolt (atleast that's what the governments believe).
Also about the wikileaks thing, they got in alot of shit for giving out some of these basic misdemeanors and got absolutely FUCKED.
There have been people that have got info directly from sources, but the governments all say are hoaxes, they control all media, all outlets of information, wikileaks were lucky to get ANYTHING out even minor things, let alone the biggest secret the governments would ever house.
So what you're saying is that the world governments are secretly working together, they control all media outlets and cover up alien intelligence.
Why?
It is a fact that all governments control the media, if they wanted they can put the country on lockdown with no info getting out so ofcourse they got the power.
And yeh, the knowledgable countries do work together (or the ones that don't cooperate get shit fucked up by the rest)
Didn't they try that in Egypt recently and had it totally backfire?
Also, why are they doing all this?
To stop all known civilization from crumbling?
Do you think people would want to go to work on Monday, knowing that the governments of the world are withholding information of ET's, the contact and cooperation with them and the world changing prospect of First Contact?
So they're covering it up to prevent people from finding out that they're covering it up? Sounds logical.
Anyway, I'm not too into bullshit conspiracy theories and I can't really argue against them as my logic didn't work. Go join the 9/11 'truthers'. (Yes, I know that's the whole argument from ridicule fallacy, but I really can't be arsed trying to put sense into you.)
I don't have to join the 9/11 bunch, I know in myself I am right and you are wrong, that is all I need to get by, believe it or not.
You will be the one missing out, but as I said, do the proper research and you can find out.
Ofcourse it is good to be skeptical and not take in EVERYTHING as I have seen some right old bullshit on the net, but now I have the evidence and done the proper research it all makes sense.
Maybe one day you will have the revelation you need to believe.
Wow someone who believes something ridiculous "knows" he is right
Haven't seen that one before
Not 'believes' :) if you had the documents in YOUR hands and had the knowledge I have had from countless meetings with high powered people in the know, then yeh, you would be the same.
Is it so hard to spell extraterrestrial.
Also didnt they find alien life in a meteorite?
Countless times they have found MO's (Micro Organisms) but people never get to hear about it.
There was a famous one in AZ in the US, found by some hunters who were then commited by the government, taken to another state (so the families would not get involved) and institutionalised, then released 5 years later.
They (well one of them) took the story to the media, but were not allowed to go to air.
[QUOTE=pal670;28569796]Not 'believes' :) if you had the documents in YOUR hands and had the knowledge I have had from countless meetings with high powered people in the know, then yeh, you would be the same.[/QUOTE]
Yeah no it wouldn't
I don't even "know" I have a nose on my face
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28569962]Yeah no it wouldn't
I don't even "know" I have a nose on my face[/QUOTE]
Well then you are obviously quite hard to convince, but I have concrete evidence that I know cannot be bullshit/hoaxed, so it helps keep my mind at ease.
No you don't
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You have a bunch of papers
all evidence is based on perception. ALL evidence can be hoaxed.
I hear that there are talks to be held within the next 3 months with high powers of US/UK/France/Germany/Belgium/Australia/New Zealand, hopefully we will get something from that, it is the first meeting that has been agreed to, so high hopes.
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And it cannot be hoaxed, trust me, it is clear as day, even if you tried to, you cannot revoke this evidence.
It is not simply a scrawl on paper saying 'LOL THERE BE ALIENZ IN OUR MIDST, Signed lolipops 1/1/67'
[QUOTE=pal670;28570041]I hear that there are talks to be held within the next 3 months with high powers of US/UK/France/Germany/Belgium/Australia/New Zealand, hopefully we will get something from that, it is the first meeting that has been agreed to, so high hopes.
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And it cannot be hoaxed, trust me, it is clear as day, even if you tried to, you cannot revoke this evidence.
It is not simply a scrawl on paper saying 'LOL THERE BE ALIENZ IN OUR MIDST, Signed lolipops 1/1/67'[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28570022]all evidence is based on perception. ALL evidence can be hoaxed.[/QUOTE]
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