Do you believe in E.T. life?

[pal670]

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28570528][/QUOTE]

CAN BE, but isn't. That is the point.
It's like me saying 'All planets in the Universe, COULD, be inhabitated by giant walking dicks', doesn't mean that they ARE.

[JohnnyMo]

The idea that aliens have contacted us is absurd in itself so I give very little weight to the apparent evidence you have seen.

What specifically is it, by the way. Links? Descriptions?

[superdinoman]

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28571059]The idea that aliens have contacted us is absurd in itself so I give very little weight to the apparent evidence you have seen.

What specifically is it, by the way. Links? Descriptions?[/QUOTE]

Ive seen UFOs before but doesn't mean aliens. I however fall into the category of the zoo hypothesis. In the same sense we watch and study animals in the wild, the higher beings of the universe do the same to the lesser life forms.

Study, watch, leave alone.

[pal670]

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28571059]The idea that aliens have contacted us is absurd in itself so I give very little weight to the apparent evidence you have seen.

What specifically is it, by the way. Links? Descriptions?[/QUOTE]

Will give more info tomorrow, it's midnight here.

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Can't be specifics, as obviously it's compromising, but i'll give you the rough idea of what they entail.

[JohnnyMo]

[QUOTE=superdinoman;28571334]Ive seen UFOs before but doesn't mean aliens. I however fall into the category of the zoo hypothesis. In the same sense we watch and study animals in the wild, the higher beings of the universe do the same to the lesser life forms.

Study, watch, leave alone.[/QUOTE]

What reason is there to assume that any intelligent life out there in the galaxy would be more advanced than us?

[superdinoman]

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28571880]What reason is there to assume that any intelligent life out there in the galaxy would be more advanced than us?[/QUOTE]

Speculation:

If UFOs are aliens then they must be far beyond us technology wise.

[Sillypiggy]

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28571880]What reason is there to assume that any intelligent life out there in the galaxy would be more advanced than us?[/QUOTE]

Well compared to the average species age ares is really early (200000 years old) so unless they went extint it would be more then likely they would be older then us. Older would mean they had more time to advance so they would have a high chance of being more advanced then us.

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[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28569074]Proof indicates 100% certainty by definition.[/QUOTE]

No it does not. We have proof that life could have come from a meteor. We also have proof that it was formed deep under the ocean. Proof does not have to equal 100% accuracy.

[JohnnyMo]

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;28572349]No it does not. We have proof that life could have come from a meteor. We also have proof that it was formed deep under the ocean. Proof does not have to equal 100% accuracy.[/QUOTE]

Yes it does. You really have no business attempting to carry on an argument if you can't grasp this concept. "Proof of string theory" would indicate that we have shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that string theory is true. "Evidence for string theory" indicates that we have discovered some piece of information that makes string theory seem more probably true.

[MutantBadger]

[QUOTE=superdinoman;28571925]Speculation:

If UFOs are aliens then they must be far beyond us technology wise.[/QUOTE]I had no idea weather balloons were technologically advanced.

[mako_]

[QUOTE=Rad McCool;28560381]Wait, when did this happen?![/QUOTE]

[i]On March 5, 2011, Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist with the Marshall Space Flight Center, speculated on the finding of alleged microfossils similar to cyanobacteria in CI1 carbonaceous meteorites.[/i]

Also google Europa. There is almost certainly life there, and potential for large life forms similar to ones on Earth (aquatic.)

[superdinoman]

[QUOTE=MutantBadger;28572878]I had no idea weather balloons were technologically advanced.[/QUOTE]
Ive seen one of these before

Definitely a weather balloon
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_GsUl3_1ezpI/THv38ibnHgI/AAAAAAAAAHI/0ycQVwdYKpM/s1600/petitrechainbelgium.jpg[/img]

[gbtygfvyg]

I don't believe the whole "I SAW A FLYING SAUCER, ALIENS! OH GOD WE'RE GONNA BE ABDUCTED" shit, but it's literally impossible for the universe to have no other sentient life besides Earth. Didn't NASA have a photo of like millions of galaxies?

[JohnnyMo]

[QUOTE=gbtygfvyg;28573126]it's literally impossible for the universe to have no other sentient life besides Earth.[/QUOTE]

no it isn't

[superdinoman]

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28573214]no it isn't[/QUOTE]
But statistically speaking its NEAR impossible.

If life happened on Earth then there is a high chance life, complex life, and intelligent life has, will, and could pop up elsewhere.

[Big Orca]

The Drake equation states that:

N = R^{\ast} \cdot f_p \cdot n_e \cdot f_{\ell} \cdot f_i \cdot f_c \cdot L \!

[i]or[/i]

[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/4/a/c/4ac1a1c3e0f903e8ed70359a4bb99466.png[/img]

where:

N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible;

and

R* = the average rate of star formation per year in our galaxy
fp = the fraction of those stars that have planets
ne = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
fℓ = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point
fi = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life
fc = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space.

And given the fact that humanity could be considered "extraterrestrials", and given our (feeble) knowledge of the universe, the equation becomes:

N = 10 × 0.5 × 2 × 1 × 0.01 × 0.01 × 10,000 = 10

Ergo, yes. Extraterrestrials [i]very probably may[/i] exist.

But let's not jump to conclusions now, we'll know when we've found them.

[b]Which we did.[/b]
:science:

[Bat-shit]

One thing which actually "worries" me..

Some like to believe there are no other specie like humans anywhere in the universe, I mean I wouldn't be surprised! It's a miracle after all how humans have survived this far.

Anyway! If it turns out so, and given all the efforts we put into it to find it out, it must mean we are a whole lot more significant than any other, or that we just like to dig too deep, out of "boredom".

I think it's pretty funny.

[Pilotguy]

I think there are most likely at least three alien civilizations (including domesticated animals) that have no contact with each other within the local cluster.

If only...

[lolnubs]

Once a planet becomes "seeded" with life (This being evolutionary or not), it is in essence infected with it.
This life will evolve, then undergo a mass-extinction, but some bacteria somewhere will survive and multiply, evolve, and once again be wiped out, unless it forms into something intelligent enough to travel off-world. In which case, that organism would happen upon a new, habitable world, and colonize it, bringing to that world, LIFE. Which at some point will be wiped out there too, just to have the handful of bacteria survive.
So in essence, life can exist almost everywhere if even a massive bunch of extremophile-bacteria are launched in a rocket aimed at that world.

AKA. launch tubs of yoghurt at some nearby planets and see what happens

[MutantBadger]

I believe there was a documentary about a planet we found called Darwin (V or IV). The documentary was a fictional exploration via drones. I believe Stephen Hawkings was in it. Fuck, even George Lucas was in on it.

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The planet itself exists. Just not the exploration, drones, or animals.

BUT they do have proof that animals there will probably be biolumenescent. :frogc00l:

[DoomsDayDan]

Do I believe in extraterrestrials? Yes. Do I believe they're here? No.

[Herr Sven]

Yes, I think they probably exist. They haven't visited us however.

[Rad McCool]

[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;28573098][i]On March 5, 2011, Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist with the Marshall Space Flight Center, speculated on the finding of alleged microfossils similar to cyanobacteria in CI1 carbonaceous meteorites.[/i][/QUOTE]
It's still under investigation. Note "speculated".

And we have no proof that there is life on Europa. In fact we have no idea what to expect. That's why we wanna go there and check it out.
[QUOTE=superdinoman;28573251]But statistically speaking its NEAR impossible.

If life happened on Earth then there is a high chance life, complex life, and intelligent life has, will, and could pop up elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
Again, you can't say that since you don't know under what circumstances life managed to form on Earth and how to compare this with other planets.

What if I say that it's "statistically NEAR impossible" for there to be ET-life? It's just as blind.

[TurbisV2]

I voted no because I'm a rebel