[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;46098750]I am a magician[/QUOTE]You managed to make your hat disappear real good, after all.
[QUOTE=HJ23;46098716]It's funny how many of you would change your mind about your rigidly programmed reality if you gave it few hours and actually did some kind of conscious magical operation.[/QUOTE]
Hey man, I'm prepared for all sorts of crazy shit. Like if a deer were to walk out of the woods and say hello, my response would be to say hi right back.
I don't believe in magic, I believe in infinite alternate dimensions where everything and anything is possible. Fun fact: you could turn into a monkey THIS VERY SECOND.
Also if you're so good mr.magicman, turn me into a raccoon. I wanna see you do it.
But like a smart one. I don't wanna be no dumb animal.
[QUOTE=Lolkork;46098741]My reality is rigid enough to not make me see demons.[/QUOTE]
It is quite accepted in Occult community that if you see demons out of blue as you would see mortal man then you should get yourself checked.
[editline]29th September 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Katatonic717;46098773]Hey man, I'm prepared for all sorts of crazy shit. Like if a deer were to walk out of the woods and say hello, my response would be to say hi right back.
I don't believe in magic, I believe in infinite alternate dimensions where everything and anything is possible. Fun fact: you could turn into a monkey THIS VERY SECOND.
Also if you're so good mr.magicman, turn me into a raccoon. I wanna see you do it.
But like a smart one. I don't wanna be no dumb animal.[/QUOTE]
1) I'm not even remotely good enough to turn anyone into racoon
2) You are only authority of your experience. If I somehow managed to turn you into racoon then it wouldn't affect your experience at all. You would carry on being yourself and I would experience reality where you are racoon.
One time I was outside and tried to reach for a leaf but it blew away I think I have the power of telekinesis
Read a portion of the sigil stuff. It just sounds like some heavily optimistic psychology with a bit of theatre thrown in. "write out your goals, remove the vowels, mash the remaining letters together into a glyph and then make it look nice" just seems like a way of getting you to focus what you want to achieve in everyday life by making it easier remember. In that way I guess it could make it more likely that you get what you want but it's not that you're altering reality or transferring your conciousness to another universe, it's just that you're slightly altering the way you think.
To me it seems like throwing in a magical element is just a way of making it seem more exciting to vulnerable or more impressionable personalities. I've just done a module on the philosophy of mind and if it's taught me anything, it's that almost all claims that the physical and mental are or can be different don't really hold up, imo.
[QUOTE=HJ23;46098628]I use "physical" to refer to things material and mundane. Words are elusive.
What permits them to meddle are questionable. Some would say your Will and allowance, some would argue they are subtle forces of nature already meddling with mundane and they get personified and manifested to human mind as entities, arguably intelligent and seperate than mind of operator. It could even be argued that closely tied realities are what drive each other. Mundane of there is subtle of here.[/QUOTE]
physical refers to all that is in reality, things that can in theory exist independently. attributive and abstract things like thoughts and forces cannot exist on their own and are not physical, they depend on an underlying entity of some sort.
a non-physical demon cannot exist in of itself, and if so, it must depend on an entity of this reality if it is to meddle within it
and since this entity can be examined, so can the demon; like a force can be examined through the objects it is attributed to.
demons are therefore open to proof
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;46098817]One time I was outside and tried to reach for a leaf but it blew away I think I have the power of telekinesis[/QUOTE]
Okay I tried the same thing again with a leaf but this time indoors and wouldn't work where do I buy more mana?
[QUOTE=shozamar;46098821]Read a portion of the sigil stuff. It just sounds like some heavily optimistic psychology with a bit of theatre thrown in. "write out your goals, remove the vowels, mash the remaining letters together into a glyph and then make it look nice" just seems like a way of getting you to focus what you want to achieve in everyday life by making it easier remember. In that way I guess it could make it more likely that you get what you want but it's not that you're altering reality or transferring your conciousness to another universe, it's just that you're slightly altering the way you think.
To me it seems like throwing in a magical element is just a way of making it seem more exciting to vulnerable or more impressionable personalities. I've just done a module on the philosophy of mind and if it's taught me anything, it's that almost all claims that the physical and mental are or can be different don't really hold up, imo.[/QUOTE]
Ever heard of observer's effect on material reality in studies of quantum physics? You should read sigil magick in it's entirety, it's not just about making glyphs.
By the way I wasn't gonna humor you but I'm extremely bored so fuck it, you threw an accusation of Ad Hominem but you obviously have no idea what an Argumentum Ad Hominem even is
An Ad Hominem would be me trying to discredit you with completely unrelated stuff, you being drugged out of your mind completely messes with your view and understanding of reality, that's not unrelated at all considering you believe in fucking magic.
i'm a Satanist
i just listened to some Mayhem and it like spoke to me dude
IT'S NOT A PHASE OK
at least you understand me Lucifer
[QUOTE=HJ23;46098790]You are only authority of your experience. If I somehow managed to turn you into racoon then it wouldn't affect your experience at all. You would carry on being yourself and I would experience reality where you are racoon.[/QUOTE]
Oh so your are just using hypnotic suggestion (or something along those lines) on yourself to make you believe that I will be a raccoon.
You are literally fooling yourself.
Also I have a question
How do I go about making a deal with Satan?
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;46098841]Okay I tried the same thing again with a leaf but this time indoors and wouldn't work where do I buy more mana?[/QUOTE]ThinkGeek has some
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oscUnUt.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=ImpSnob;46098869]i'm a Satanist
i just listened to some Mayhem and it like spoke to me dude
IT'S NOT A PHASE OK
at least you understand me Lucifer[/QUOTE]
i'm a Atheist
i just watched Carl Sagan's Cosmos and it like spoke to me dude
IT'S NOT A PHASE OK
at least you understand me Richard Dawkins
I gotta give you some props for handling all of your replies to even the meanest comments with surprisingly nice tone. I'd have expected namecalling at this point.
Now I won't deny this whole magick thing sounds crazy and/or weird (as I said before, I'm scientific guy more or less), but it's still interesting to not to look at this kind of stuff from negative or completely denying point of view.
Edit: But still fuck dude, taking that many drugs can't be good for head, let alone physical health. I wouldn't be surprised if drugs made you see this.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;46098887]ThinkGeek has some
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/oscUnUt.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I bet it tastes just like Gatorade
I do have a real interest in the occult. I think it's all very fascinating, though I'd never want to participate in a cult/do black magic/whatever myself.
abracadabra i attempt to summon a good thread
I read into this shit, but..
[QUOTE=HJ23;46094987][B][U]For you mundanes and muggles[/U][/B], magick is real&works. In some definitions of word magick, you are doing magick with each mental action. To be a magician is to understand the action-reaction between your subconscious and your reality and learn to utilize it to some extent to attain your Will.[/QUOTE]
This is Silly.
[QUOTE=HJ23;46097952]If you would ever see the face of evoked demon on black mirror, smell it, talk with it, have absolutely unexplainable miracles happen in accordance to your workings, make girls obsess over you with programming single gaze, then you would never say that.[/QUOTE]
Uh-
Good Luck with that though using magic to pick up girls.
It isn't like people can do that anyway without "magic".
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;46098901]I bet it tastes just like Gatorade[/QUOTE]Tastes like thick, gloopy arse apparently, with enough caffeine to explode your heart. But that's potions for you, tastes like arse but does the job.
[QUOTE=Tinbe;46098893]I gotta give you some props for handling all of your replies to even the meanest comments with surprisingly [b]nice tone. I'd have expected namecalling at this point.[/b]
Now I won't deny this whole magick thing sounds crazy and/or weird (as I said before, I'm scientific guy more or less), but it's still interesting to not to look at this kind of stuff from negative or completely denying point of view.[/QUOTE]
lol he isn't being nice though
Not only is he hiding behind pseudo-intellectualism by making these "of course you feeble fools wouldn't understand, you're all sheeple following what people taught you is reality" types of replies, he also called facepunch "a forum full of teens" on another thread, as well as implying that some dude was a loser by replying with "if you tried sigil magick you could get a girlfriend" :v:
classy
[QUOTE]"if you tried sigil magick you could get a girlfriend"[/QUOTE]
sounds like the premise for an awful romcom starring michael cera
[QUOTE=RobbL;46098979]sounds like the premise for an awful romcom starring michael cera[/QUOTE]
abra ka...uhhmmmm...dabara
[QUOTE=Fosax;46098952]lol he isn't being nice though
Not only is he hiding behind pseudo-intellectualism by making these "of course you feeble fools wouldn't understand, you're all sheeple following what people taught you is reality" types of replies, he also called facepunch "a forum full of teens" on another thread, as well as implying that some dude was a loser by replying with "if you tried sigil magick you could get a girlfriend" :v:
classy[/QUOTE]
Well damn, I have missed something important and made baseless assumptions. My apologies.
[QUOTE=Tinbe;46098893]I gotta give you some props for handling all of your replies to even the meanest comments with surprisingly nice tone. I'd have expected namecalling at this point.
Now I won't deny this whole magick thing sounds crazy and/or weird (as I said before, I'm scientific guy more or less), but it's still interesting to not to look at this kind of stuff from negative or completely denying point of view.
Edit: But still fuck dude, taking that many drugs can't be good for head, let alone physical health. I wouldn't be surprised if drugs made you see this.[/QUOTE]
I'm fulfilled and I can't really blame anyone for their worldview. It's all same thing on the perspective of One.
I have gotten enough specific material and social gratifications out of my involvment in Occult to chalk it down as delusion or mind games.
[editline]29th September 2014[/editline]
Ego mechanisms will go far to defend worldview and ignore what doesn't serve it. I don't expect to convert anyone but seeds are strong enough to elicit such reactions.
OP, I don't think you're going to find much support here unfortunately. I've seen threads like this before and they don't really go well.
if your so magical magic me up a qt gf please
How the hell do people like this find Facepunch? I mean, this is a forum that caters to logic, right?
Something tells me he posted this in Fast Threads for a reason.
Edit: I forgot about the whole Gmod and Rust community.
You'll find that most of us here practice the art of technomancy. Some people channel [del]elec-[/del] magic between apparatuses on a bread board, others write [del]shell[/del] spell scripts.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;46099142]I mean, this is a forum that caters to logic, right?[/QUOTE]
haha
[QUOTE=Rct33;46099180]haha[/QUOTE]
In most aspects, of course. Even in Sensationalist Headlines, we always require a source from reputable, preferably non-biased sites.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;46099142]How the hell do people like this find Facepunch? I mean, this is a forum that caters to logic, right?[/QUOTE]
I used to play Gmod back in 2006 or 2005 lol
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