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Sure, I'll get on that soon. I'll make it send across the IPN stuff too.

[QUOTE=_Undefined;41529879]Sure, I'll get on that soon. I'll make it send across the IPN stuff too.[/QUOTE] Thanks, that will make what I'm working on a lot easier.

Just a question, are there any version checking gimmicks packed along with script updates on CoderHire or is it purely just a notification and the person re-downloads the script? Not sure how much of a benefit it would really be but would be neat if the webserver dynamically packed in some code to autorun somewhere in the script and check for a set of functions from an (optional) CoderHire addon to register it as a script from the website and check for updates from inside the game to notify superadmins that are online rather than depending on just email notification of updates to the person who bought it.

I've thought about doing this but I aren't sure how many people would actually want it and use it. If it's something people want then I'll look into doing it.

You should accept bitcoins because it's easy to add and not reversable, oh and because I don't want to use paypal. For those that disagree with me, give me a valid reason and don't blindly disagree. There's literally no reason because [i]you're not forced[/i] to use it. Bitpay can be used to accept bitcoins, they have an easy API, low as fuck 0.99% rate, and you get your funds deposited on your bank every day without having to bother exchanging anything.

No chargebacks is the exact reason I won't use it. PayPals policy is pretty shitty but at least people can try to get their money back if they're scammed or whatever.

I don't think that's a good argument. [i]When it comes to hiring, the coder is generally the one at risk, unless bitcoin is used.[/i] Client won't have to send the money until the work has been verified (e.g. by joining the server of the coder, or by watching a livestream of the script in action), but clients can decide to charge back several weeks later and fuck over the coder. Bitcoin would prevent this. Next to that there's the reputation system to look at. Clients can decide, using a coders reputation if they like to trust the coder with bitcoins or not. [i]When it comes to selling scripts, no one is at risk.[/i] As stated in your terms: 'When submitted, your script is put in the moderation queue for us to check over. We check for stolen code and content for quality purposed. If you upload something that is not yours, you will be banned.' So, no risk involved when using bitcoin, because you verified the work. [i]When it comes to the subscriptions, again no one is at risk.[/i] You can accept bitcoins for subscriptions and upgrade the user in question. Transactions can't be reversed on you, so you can be pretty sure that the user in question isn't a rule breaker (that would normally chargeback on you once banned). The anonymity of bitcoin doesn't matter, because you use steam accounts to identify people. You'll receive the money within 1 day on your bank at a very low rate, without having to deal with bitcoin exchanges, when using bitpay.

Bitcoin just had a massive crash back in April losing almost half of its value.

[QUOTE=koz;41530804]Bitcoin just had a massive crash back in April losing almost half of its value.[/QUOTE] Again, when you use bitpay the seller isn't involved in trading or exchanging. Therefor, the risk of jumpy bitcoin prices is mitigated from the merchant to bitpay. So basically, the seller would always get its money worth in dollars, no matter how much bitcoin likes to jump.

No one is going to use a failing virtual currency. What you're saying is just a pipe dream.

[QUOTE=koz;41530914]No one is going to use a failing virtual currency. What you're saying is just a pipe dream.[/QUOTE] This is a completely groundless argument, but if you insist on it I wouldn't mind to discuss this with you through another medium. I don't want to go off topic here, but as far as I know bitcoin hasn't failed being a currency. -- What I'm trying it do is to explain why accepting bitcoins on coderhire is, as far as I know, beneficial for every party involved. I'm happy to hear reasons why it's not, because there may be things I overlooked, but please provide a decent argument with sources to back up your claim.

Google is your best friend maurits. Do the research yourself. _Undefined would it be possible to add a search function to the scripts section and maybe give the developers a way to moderate the comments.

[QUOTE=KingofBeast;41530243]Just a question, are there any version checking gimmicks packed along with script updates on CoderHire or is it purely just a notification and the person re-downloads the script? Not sure how much of a benefit it would really be but would be neat if the webserver dynamically packed in some code to autorun somewhere in the script and check for a set of functions from an (optional) CoderHire addon to register it as a script from the website and check for updates from inside the game to notify superadmins that are online rather than depending on just email notification of updates to the person who bought it.[/QUOTE] What your trying to do is possible right now as long as you have access to a webserver, you can periodically query a script you host that can return the current version of whatever you coded. I think a cleaner way that involves coderhire could be developing a small coderhire api that returns JSON so that coders can implement support for this themselves and client's don't have to do anything. something like [lua] http.Fetch( "http://api.coderhire.com/getinfo/<script id>", function( json ) local tbl = util.JSONToTable( json ); print( tbl.version ); end ); [/lua] not sure what else you could send back, maybe update notes or something.

[QUOTE=Looter;41531174]What your trying to do is possible right now as long as you have access to a webserver, you can periodically query a script you host that can return the current version of whatever you coded. I think a cleaner way that involves coderhire could be developing a small coderhire api that returns JSON so that coders can implement support for this themselves and client's don't have to do anything. something like [lua] http.Fetch( "http://api.coderhire.com/getinfo/<script id>", function( json ) local tbl = util.JSONToTable( json ); print( tbl.version ); end ); [/lua] not sure what else you could send back, maybe update notes or something.[/QUOTE] I don't know why it didn't trigger earlier but I've already started on an api. I'll get this done soon. [editline]20th July 2013[/editline] [img]http://puu.sh/3Htnk.png[/img]

What's with the "Receive Steam chat notifications" option? I joined the group but it doesn't seem to work.

Because PayPal is more convenient, and it can be used more places. I have never even seen a purchase use Bitcoin. So why would we code just to get money that can't be used anywhere?

[QUOTE=James0roll;41535752]Because PayPal is more convenient, and it can be used more places. I have never even seen a purchase use Bitcoin. So why would we code just to get money that can't be used anywhere?[/QUOTE] There are [url=https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade]tons[/url] of places that already accept bitcoin, including enterprises you'll probably know such as wordpress, reddit, namecheap, Humble Bundle and mega. I personally think bitcoin is more convenient because your wallet can't be blocked, it's relatively anonymous, it's pretty fast, low fees and no chargebacks so you know you can't suddenly end up negative and get debt collectors on your ass.

[IMG]http://4st.me/USJ4Z.png[/IMG] I made this HUD, It's even [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR9uhm6gVoc"]on My Youtube Channel[/URL]... [IMG]http://4st.me/m15uo.png[/IMG] [B]I[/B] rounded the edges in a later revision, I'm [B]not[/B] this guy's friend (infact I've never heard of him), and I certainly did [B]not[/B] give anyone permission to sell it :( I reported it on the site anyways, this guys a tard. [editline]20th July 2013[/editline] Wow, even one of his [URL="http://coderhire.com/jobs/view/489"]previous jobs[/URL] was a complete ripoff of the HUD I made... [editline]20th July 2013[/editline] Here's the [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1237120&p=39420546&highlight=#post39420546"]original post in the WAYWO thread[/URL] that I made when I finished this up. [editline]20th July 2013[/editline] And here's the link to the script page on coderhire: [URL]http://coderhire.com/scripts/view/82[/URL] This guy deserves to be banned. [editline]20th July 2013[/editline] I decided to put it up myself, considering the odd popularity I've seen from people: [t]http://4st.me/h0cEb.png[/t] Waiting for approval :v:

PayPal is [B]WAY[/B] more common than Bitcoin is. It can't even be used on Steam. Plus if someone does end up getting scammed, it'd be good to refund. Even if someone tries to scam the coder by refunding, they still can try to win the dispute. :P [QUOTE=Spencer Sharkey;41536441][IMG]http://4st.me/USJ4Z.png[/IMG] I made this HUD, It's even [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR9uhm6gVoc"]on My Youtube Channel[/URL]... [IMG]http://4st.me/m15uo.png[/IMG] [B]I[/B] rounded the edges in a later revision, I'm [B]not[/B] this guy's friend (infact I've never heard of him), and I certainly did [B]not[/B] give anyone permission to sell it :( I reported it on the site anyways, this guys a tard. [editline]20th July 2013[/editline] Wow, even one of his [URL="http://coderhire.com/jobs/view/489"]previous jobs[/URL] was a complete ripoff of the HUD I made... [editline]20th July 2013[/editline] Here's the [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1237120&p=39420546&highlight=#post39420546"]original post in the WAYWO thread[/URL] that I made when I finished this up. [editline]20th July 2013[/editline] And here's the link to the script page on coderhire: [URL]http://coderhire.com/scripts/view/82[/URL] This guy deserves to be banned. [editline]20th July 2013[/editline] I decided to put it up myself, considering the odd popularity I've seen from people: [t]http://4st.me/h0cEb.png[/t] Waiting for approval :v:[/QUOTE] I remember seeing this HUD quite a bit ago. It was like a couple months ago. I thought that HUD on CoderHire looked a bit too familiar.

As for the payment options, I don't think its worth arguing weather or not PayPal is better than Bitcoins or vice versa... I'd say the more payment options open to developers/hire-er's, the better.

Well, looks like I slept through some drama here. All sorted. Sorry about that Spencer, I thought it seemed familiar but just couldn't lay my finger on it.

I'm not upset with Coderhire staff or you at all, you wouldn't of known better. Just kinda freaked me out for an hour there, and pissed me off that someone would try something so sleezy. Glad it's all sorted out now, and [URL="http://coderhire.com/scripts/view/88"]my version has been approved[/URL] :D

I don't see any issue with adding support for bitcoin. If people don't like it, people won't use it. I wouldn't mind being paid in bitcoins. Just keep it as an option.

I think this is a non-issue because probably 1 in 100, if that, transactions on the site would use Bitcoin if it was implemented. If you add Bitcoins make payment methods selectable by the job or script creator, I don't think I'm really interested in using a currency that can fluctuate between being worth $10 and $200 in the span of 6 months.

That would be very nice if we had a video tab for scripts, what do you think?

[QUOTE=spykr;41539159]I think this is a non-issue because probably 1 in 100, if that, transactions on the site would use Bitcoin if it was implemented. If you add Bitcoins make payment methods selectable by the job or script creator, I don't think I'm really interested in using a currency that can fluctuate between being worth $10 and $200 in the span of 6 months.[/QUOTE] I do because you can sell a script for $10 worth of BTC and have $200 in 6 months :v BTC has actually been really stable around 1 BTC ≈ $100 USD for quite a while. The last crash people were complaining about when it dropped from $210 to $76 in a day was because of an economic bubble. Ever since then, it's been fairly stable. I would like to see BTC support and seeing as it would be optional for the scripter and buyer, I don't see any reason why not.

Nvm, it's settled. Any way we can get an android app ?

I'm making an api but I doubt I'll get around to making an app. The site is pretty useable on mobile apart from the few fixes it needs. A list of those things would be much more useful.

I think comments should be in descending ordered by time, personally.

At the moment I'm still testing the waters on what scripts will be purchased and what scripts will result in getting "JEW" shouted at me for having the nerve to charge money for them. It's an interesting (and nerve-wracking) experiment.