Oh god that is actually not a bad idea, sticky flares mind you.
omg Naelstrom you need to make a weapon thats duct tape, TAPE THE ZOMBIES TO THE WALLS. (just kidding it would be hilarious though)
eheheheheh
I think the flares duration should depend on how many zombies are being ignited by it. So if you're actually using it for lighting it will fulfill that task.
[QUOTE=Citizen_001;23674345]You got permission for the CODE not the maps. BKU is the mod's coder. He had no hand at all in making the maps therefore he can't give you permission to use them.[/QUOTE]
THE. MAPS. WERE. RELEASED. IN. A. PACK. ON. ZM'S. MODDB. PAGE. WHERE. YOU. CAN. DOWNLOAD. THEM.
Nowhere in that map pack does it state we can't use the maps. I'm sure somebodies 2-3 year old map is of less care to them whether it's being used or not. Here's what's going through the minds of the people who made those maps, and unless you have them directly contact one of us, this is more than likely what they are thinking. Let's begin, 1. "It's being used? awesome, cool! it's in a new gamemode, people are playing it. It's 2-3 years old, whatever." 2. "Oh, it's not being used? well that sucks, looks like they'll use somebody elses map instead."
[QUOTE=Killklli;23674373]omg Naelstrom you need to make a weapon thats duct tape, TAPE THE ZOMBIES TO THE WALLS. (just kidding it would be hilarious though)[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see that actually.
We are talking to mappers regarding permission. Stand By. Continue to discuss game do not mention permission.
I actually have ducktape modeled around here somewhere...
[img]http://www.1337upload.net/files/2010-06-21_11.56.45.png[/img]
found it. Although i believe it is irrelevant to this gamemode, unless we can get SnapSter to find a way to map an objective that needs it.
like duct taping a zombie? :D
[QUOTE=nivek;23673286]We're chill[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=nivek;23672917]We didn't port shit what the fuck are you talking about?[/QUOTE]
[quote]We're calling it Zombie Master, because it fucking is Zombie Master, in Garry's Mod.[/quote][QUOTE=nivek;23673143]You are a pretty big idiot, We didn't port shit.[/QUOTE]
[quote]And what are you the fucking map police?[/quote][quote]Also. Those are old fucking screenshots, to show that we have SOMETHING, right now we have the complete game almost ready to go, but we really don't give a flying fuck if you like the shots or not.[/quote][QUOTE=nivek;23673236]We didn't decompile the fucking map and reuse shit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=nivek;23673363]Oh fuck off, Cry more, please.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=nivek;23673418]Go the fuck away for fuck sakes you aren't making any fucking point.[/QUOTE]
[quote]I'm sure they won't care that we're giving their maps life.[/quote]Zombie Master is still played quite a bit by quite a number of people.
[QUOTE=Naelstrom;23673472]You're not Pi go away.[/QUOTE]
Is that your team's logic? Jesus Christ.
[QUOTE=nivek;23673924]We're not making money off it, it's all for fun, to give Zombie Master a new light.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't matter. That's like saying you're allowed to go break into that guy's house and steal his Xbox since he hasn't played it in 6 months.
[QUOTE=nivek;23674107]And as I stated, when they have an issue they can contact us, and we'd be happy to take their map off. I'm sure mappers won't care if their map as originally made is being used, We're giving their map more life.[/QUOTE]
Then why won't you just contact the original author if you're so sure he won't have a problem with it? It's not that hard.
[QUOTE=nivek;23674150]I swear cause I really don't fucking care if you take me legitimately, We're making the game and we're making it fun, don't like it? Then don't fucking play it.[/QUOTE]
The issue here isn't with quality, it's that you're not following the bloody guidelines that were set for redistributing the mod and etc.
Also, please stop saying you're "giving the mod new life", because A) It doesn't matter, B) You don't know if this is going to die in 3 days or not, and C) The original Zombie Master isn't dead.
[QUOTE=Naelstrom;23674175]Stop derailing the topic please.[/QUOTE]
This thread is meant for discussion about your mod, and that is what is happening.
[QUOTE=Killklli;23674226]The map maker most likely loves the idea someone is using their maps.[/QUOTE]
Once again, then what is the issue with asking permission? No one can speak for the author but the author, and so far no one has given the author a say in the matter.
[QUOTE=nivek;23674249]Herf Derf?[/QUOTE]
Sure is nice rebuttal around here.
[QUOTE=t205gorillaz;23674443] this is more than likely what they are thinking. Let's begin, 1. "It's being used? awesome, cool! it's in a new gamemode, people are playing it. It's 2-3 years old, whatever." 2. "Oh, it's not being used? well that sucks, looks like they'll use somebody elses map instead."[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't speak for other people, especially when you've never even met them.
We're past the initial militant attitudes. We all have various responses based off our emotions on the usual hate and troll of the facepunch Gamemode section. Cause it's so damn pessimistic.
[QUOTE=Biron;23674582]
You shouldn't speak for other people, especially when you've never even met them.[/QUOTE]
Especially with the stories I've heard about how Pi reacts to these kind of things.
[QUOTE]Once again, then what is the issue with asking permission? No one can speak for the author but the author, and so far no one has given the author a say in the matter.[/QUOTE] well i have made several Counter strike source zombie riot maps and i loved the idea of other servers using my maps just not decompiling in what we are quote not doing
Enough permission disputes. They said they were working it out. This thread should not be dominated by petty copyright arguments. The Gamemodes forum is for the discussion of gamemodes in a positive manner.
So much drama lol
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Anyway, we are going to work on more "make-shift" weaponry. Such as potato cannons, firework missiles, etc. Any ideas on weapons?
[s]Stop derailing the topic guys, this isn't about permissions or copyright.[/s]
was ninja'd.
Firework weapons sound fun. Are we going for that "survivor" feel? That would rule out chainguns. But would encourage watergun flamethrowers.
OH I haz idea you should make a small bomb you can "Buy" you know that whole thing I made for airsoft something like that but one that actually blows up.
[QUOTE=grea$emonkey;23674662]Enough permission disputes. They said they were working it out. This thread should not be dominated by petty copyright arguments. The Gamemodes forum is for the discussion of gamemodes in a positive manner.[/QUOTE]
If we only talk about the positives of a gamemode, it will never get improved. Isn't the point of a gamemode thread so that anyone can voice their opinion about a gamemode, within limits of course. And since talking about the copyright arguments is about the gamemode, so how is it not relevant?
[QUOTE=Killklli;23674641]well i have made several Counter strike source zombie riot maps and i loved the idea of other servers using my maps just not decompiling in what we are quote not doing[/QUOTE]
OK, but that's you, you're not everyone else who's made a map.
[QUOTE=grea$emonkey;23674662]This thread should not be dominated by petty copyright arguments.[/QUOTE]
Do you really believe they're petty? I'd say plagiarism is a very serious matter in any medium, and if we start treating it like a trivial issue and ignoring it that's when everything starts going to hell. I'm glad they've decided to get permission, though.
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The survivor idea sounds very fun, i'd love to model makeshift stuff.
Things like drills would be a cool melee weapon.
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[QUOTE=grea$emonkey;23674662]Enough permission disputes. They said they were working it out. This thread should not be dominated by petty copyright arguments. The Gamemodes forum is for the discussion of gamemodes in a positive manner.[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to make a smart remark or anything, but I don't see a negative manner being used by anyone, all things discussed have been legitimate concerns. I just don't see where else this would be brought up besides here. This discussion will be buried by other posts as soon as it is taken care of.
Biron I know a lot of map makers and they feel the same exact way as me. I mean if you don't believe me go to the steam powered forums and ask people about this in their general opinion in the level design area.
[QUOTE=Katherine;23674698]If we only talk about the positives of a gamemode, it will never get improved. Isn't the point of a gamemode thread so that anyone can voice their opinion about a gamemode, within limits of course. And since talking about the copyright arguments is about the gamemode, so how is it not relevant?[/QUOTE]
I didn't say talk about only the positives. I said discuss in a positive manner. All I see are a group of people bitching about pending permissions with no mention of anything else. You're all so caught up in trying to be "right" that you are derailing a perfectly valid thread. It's fine to talk about copyright privileges, but you are doing it in a way that attacks the team and the thread as a whole. That's borderline flaming/trolling, and definitely derailing.
If it keeps up, I'm going to start banning people.
[QUOTE=Killklli;23674779]Biron I know a lot of map makers and they feel the same exact way as me. I mean if you don't believe me go to the steam powered forums and ask people about this in their general opinion in the level design area.[/QUOTE]
OK, but once again: you can't speak for other map makers, no less all of them. Just because some people think the same way doesn't mean everyone does.
[QUOTE=grea$emonkey;23674793]I didn't say talk about only the positives. I said discuss in a positive manner. All I see are a group of people bitching about pending permissions with no mention of anything else. You're all so caught up in trying to be "right" that you are derailing a perfectly valid thread. It's fine to talk about copyright privileges, but you are doing it in a way that attacks the team and the thread as a whole. That's borderline flaming/trolling.[/quote]
We're not trolling or flaming. We've been about as civil as one can be, especially when discussing such a passionate topic. Nivek is really the only person who's flamed so far, and really you shouldn't be warning anyone.
Alright discuss the gamemode discussion elsewhere, cause this thread isn't named "gamemode section discussion".
[QUOTE=grea$emonkey;23674793]I didn't say talk about only the positives. I said discuss in a positive manner. All I see are a group of people bitching about pending permissions with no mention of anything else. You're all so caught up in trying to be "right" that you are derailing a perfectly valid thread. It's fine to talk about copyright privileges, but you are doing it in a way that attacks the team and the thread as a whole. That's borderline flaming/trolling, and definitely derailing.
If it keeps up, I'm going to start banning people.[/QUOTE]
We attacked them?! Re-read the thread please. All I did was ask if they had permission for the map and they started insulting ME! And then you banned me when I tried to get a point across by pasting what the README said, but when they insult us, they don't get banned!
Biron I do agree with you that I cant speak for all of them im just saying a large chunk feels the same way.
[QUOTE=Katherine;23674817]We attacked them?! Re-read the thread please. All I did was ask if they had permission for the map and they started insulting ME! And then you banned me when I tried to get a point across by pasting what the README said, but when they insult us, they don't get banned![/QUOTE]
I'm going to sort out the permissions, can you halt your permission attacks now?
Let's discuss gamemode ideas.
So uh... how about we think up some makeshift weapons that would be fun to use? I'll name a few.
Watergun flame thrower,
flares,
drill,
nail gun,
stimpaks, (for healing)
Any others?
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