I've been playing DarkRP casually now for abit, I normally play a Doctor that runs a neutral territory hospital. It works, people pay me to patch up wounds and work as a safe haven for opposing parties RP wise. My biggest problem is there is no way for cops to actually enforce rules or figure out what exactly cause what situation.
So that leaves me with an idea...
What if DarkRP had a detective class like TTT game mode? They can tell in several ways how a person has died and is very possible to get DNA depending on the death-type of the victim. It adds abit more RP to the police other than "Drop your weapon or we shoot" mentality and actually can give more towards an atmosphere that yes; 'RDM' will happen but it can now be tied into story."
I say the problem is really two things. 1. The players. 2. The realism. This is not focused on enough. You can use your imagination, but when it comes down to cops being able to tell you're a criminal by the words over you head, and money just appearing out of nowhere, its not realistic, which is what roleplaying is supposed to be. Forced names is good. But my major changes to allow for realism (i may be restating a few things said already I'll try not to) are:
No salary- work for your money, either starting off as a lowly hitman or street cop, Clerk, cocktail waiter, whatever really.
Gun realism- Stated before, needs to be accurate, you can't spawn with a gun, neither can you buy huge ass ARs on the street
Cop power- Cops are normally overpowered in real life, make them really imposing and actually a force to be reckoned with.
**There should be a undercover cop class, maybe limited to two or so players on a server, so cops could get warrants/proof easier.
Mayor- Make him a mayor, with actual mayor duties
--on that note the chief should have more power as well, being able to call shutdowns and curfews, all that good stuff.
[b]make it fun even if you're not a Gangster or cop[/b]
-Make secondary classes, as well as citizen, more fun
As for drugz mod, you should be able to grow weed, and the drug making process should involve more work, i.e. going to the pharmacy to buy pills which you the mix with other stuff to make dope. and if you get the recipe wrong, it blows up on you. You may have to get the recipe from someone else, maybe pay them for it or something.
Fix money printers- right now there retarded.
The way I see it, the problem lies with the leadership. That's where it all starts. There are servers with admins that have
(1) Simply donated money to get power or
(2) acquired their position through friendship with the server owner
and there are servers that have awesome admins who are few in number. More often than not, the servers with a lot awesome admins who are constantly on the server are more successful. The mingebag problem that has been mentioned many times in this thread derives from the lack of rule-enforcing admins. There have been very successful and fun DarkRP servers in the past, so roots of the problem don't lie with the script itself.
Not to say that there isn't room for additions. I love the detective and undercover cop ideas! That would definitely stimulate RP, and it could make RP spawn from rdm at times, and you could definitely bust minges easier if there was DNA evidence :D
Minges, RDM, The "Jobs" suck, Idiots sitting in the corner drawing penis' with some advanced dupe they got off garry's mod.org, "OMG NUKE GO BOOM BOOM", Fags who go around fucking with everything you worked on.
Overall: EVERY. FUCKING. THING.
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Seriously, I made a little medicine shop one time. Cops burst in; "YOU STOLE STUFF I SERCH NAO.". I'm watching and then I see him buy weed and then he puts it on a shelf and says. "OMG, U BROKE TEH LAWZ.". I said "FUCK YOU." it turns out he was an admin. He then banned me for 5 minutes. I come back and say, "Where's the guy who's a fucking idiot?" I get perma banned. Then I go back to see I got a friend request on Steam, it was the guy. He said "ur cool, wana be friendz?".
Meh, what happens with DarkRP is the same that with CSS:[B]Dumb community[/B]
Anyways, never thought of DarkRP as a RP script, most likely as a "Gmod city".
Oh and all the useless jobs that it has, DarkRP needs an inventory system which saves your stuff when you die, then we wouldn't need all the useless sniper/hitman/ninja/badass/1337killer/ubercop jobs.
I'd say, DarkRP would be immediately better if we removed all the 12-14 year olds, and replaced them with people who are more mature. Too bad it's never gonna happen.
[QUOTE=CannedBeans;22507693]not enough admins.[/QUOTE]
But admins in DarkRP are often the biggest assholes D:
[QUOTE=esalaka;22508692]But admins in DarkRP are often the biggest assholes D:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, on the avarage server the admins are usually some real dumbfucks, infact, even the server admins are often morons, and sometimes even break their own rules even more than all the players combined.
And I'm gonna probably be the only one, but I don't think there so many things wrong with darkrp. There are a few things, like how it needs to be harder to get a gun, as when I'm on, almost everyone has at the least, a deagle with them, and all the mob has ak's. But I really hate it when a server is so serious that it's like your living a second life. Geez, if you wanted to have that, then you could just go outside and do that, but a game needs a little bit of chaos. And the servers that I go on, the admins aren't always being asses, and only twice have there been little kids on, and suprisingly, they weren't being mic spammers or corrupt cops or anything like that. And I think it's fine to be able to build things, it makes it more fun. And there does need to be inventory, but that's not a game changer. I actually LIKE to play on downtown, but only because I don't like having to get into a car to go anywhere far, everything is within walking distance. But one thing that really needs to be changed is for the cops to have more power. Sure, they have a pistol, and can break down your door to get in, but against the mob, they are useless.
[QUOTE=Vinze;23335711]I'd say DarkRP is the nuclear substance of all gamemodes. With the right people, it can power up a massive community successfully. With the wrong people, it will just end up as a major disaster.[/QUOTE]
Usually the 10 year olds with mics and guns. Depends on the server.
It's popularity.
Dark RP is an abomination. It needs to be destroyed and removed from the Gmod community.
For starters, Dark RP is almost never RP. The servers are a playground for mingebags, trolls, and immature people who ignore the concept of RP and just either horde weapons & drugs while ruining the fun of other players. It is in noway what-so-ever role-play.
DarkRP was designed with a few cheap gameplay ideas and an oversimplistic economy. The main idea is to either hide in a room somewhere in the map, armed to the teeth with guns, barricade the room, then farm money printers. There is absolutely no fun in that.
Another major part of 'gameplay' is the gangster, CP wars. This with the cheap and easy access weapons allows for minges to gain too much power. Before you know it, half the people on the server have huge weapons and can mow down a crowd of people. Plus, people can switch sides in an instant.
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The Civil Protection idea is a joke. Anyplayer can join and most of the time, players ignore the whole idea of being a cop and start minging. They random arrest people, RDM other players, and make the whole idea of CP a joke.
Because of the rampant minging, everyone hates the CP. Now, everyone likes to RDM the CP because they assume they are all minges. Anyone who wants to be a CP to be a ligitamate cop will be dissapointed. Plus, even if your a good cop, you can easily be demoted.
Another great habit of all players is to either vote no or yes in any vote. For many demote votes, its 'yes'. If your a great cop, made freinds, and helped kill minges, you can find yourself demoted out of the blue. Minges like to use the demote system to demote anyone they cannot agree with including cops that want to stop them.
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Trying to serious RP in Dark RP is a nightmare. Try the following : Own a restaurant, build a food shack and sell fresh produce, establish a law firm, or start a car-dealership.
-10 minutes after owning a restaurant, you get very few customers. You being to fustrated. Then, a guy with a shotgun shoots open a window, enters, kills you, destroys the furniture, and steals your food.
-30 seconds after starting a fresh produce shack, the entire player population descends on your little shop. All your food is stolen, then someone shoots you, and blows up your shop with a gernade.
-Attempting to start with a law firm is a faliure because no-one asks for your help. You are regularly beaten by police as you try to enter the police station. Your clients either get killed or released before you can argue a case to get someone out of jail. Finally you are arrested for no reason.
- Owning a car dealership.... all your cars get stolen. The end.
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So basically, the whole idea of Dark RP is to get bored. When you get bored, you have an entire arsenal of weapons available. You only have to wait five minutes to get an automatic pay-check that allows you to buy a rifle. You can go ahead and start mowing down everyone.
Its just a joke and needs to be removed from the community.
Nothing is wrong with the gamemode itself- simply the people who play it.
Honestly, People saying drugs is the like how bad guns is in DarkRP is just dumb. Honestly, If you took guns out, Roleplay wouldn't be fun. If you had drugs and no guns, there would also be no point. I understand those are the two things that can get abused but it gets people excited. Me, Personally, love being a salesmen, buying a shipment from a gun dealer, and sell the guns for profit. It is one of the funnest things I do in DarkRP. I do agree with making automatic weaponry really hard to get, or just to remove. But in DarkRP removing guns is like banning everyone from your server, It's just not fun. That is how the way DarkRP is set up. If you don't like it, Don't play it.
[QUOTE=Savior;23952780]I have no fucking idea what roleplaying is.[/QUOTE]
Fixed.
Ok then.
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[quote]That is how the way DarkRP is set up.[/quote]
NLR. Plus abusive CP/Admins.
Walking along, in a random white void, looking for an interesting plot development!
BOO(CH-CH) BOOM , BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEP
Spawn in a prop blocked tunnel, when i finally get out, walk by the place i got killed and BAM demoted for NLR. Fucking GAY :a2m:
Using all this info in order to create a server that satisfy the Facepunch roleplayers.
:buddy:
- Guns ruining the gameplay
- Cops must not abuse
- Weapons are not a real part of the gamemode
- No RDM
- Civics should be safe on the streets
- no random lock downs
- Earn money on a decent way
- Littlebit of action, to much brings the server into chaos
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[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=23963266#post23963266[/url]
And so a new gamemode was born...
[QUOTE=mazman34340;23944845]
Trying to serious RP in Dark RP is a nightmare. Try the following : Own a restaurant, build a food shack and sell fresh produce, establish a law firm, or start a car-dealership.
-10 minutes after owning a restaurant, you get very few customers. You being to fustrated. Then, a guy with a shotgun shoots open a window, enters, kills you, destroys the furniture, and steals your food.
-30 seconds after starting a fresh produce shack, the entire player population descends on your little shop. All your food is stolen, then someone shoots you, and blows up your shop with a gernade.
-Attempting to start with a law firm is a faliure because no-one asks for your help. You are regularly beaten by police as you try to enter the police station. Your clients either get killed or released before you can argue a case to get someone out of jail. Finally you are arrested for no reason.
- Owning a car dealership.... all your cars get stolen. The end.
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Well, there are some good servers, and some good people out there, just they're very hard to find. I was running a restaurant on a DarkRP server, and one guy did come inside and order some food, but the second person was some minge who did exactly as you said. He shot out the window, jumped inside, killed me with a sniper rifle, and stole my stuff. :sigh:
But that minge wasn't necessarily the fault of the gamemode, in my opinion. I still have some hope for serious RP in DarkRP. I've seen a few people that are willing to actually RP, but they're hard to find, since they don't tend to stick together in one place.
I hope i can change all this
I thought you switched to GmodRP...
Yes i did? and?
Fixing DarkRP's flaws... by using GmodRP? I don't see exactly how that works. GmodRP is too restrictive to have most of DarkRP's problems.
I am working on GmodRP, not DarkRP, that was old news if you follow the other thread
Given that the thread is about "What would you say is wrong with DarkRP?", and you are using GmodRP, [QUOTE=darth-veger;23965336]I hope i can change all this[/QUOTE]doesn't make sense, since GmodRP's only real problems were the job system and how horribly restrictive/dull it was.
Jezus christ why are you bitching about this anyway?
Maybe hes a minge.....
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