MOST stupid reason you got banned from a GMod server? - Garry's Mod

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;38828011]I'm glad you added the radio-broadcasting job, but I'm aggravated that your forcing it to be a VIP Job with no explainable reason as to why.[/quote] What? I explained why it was VIP? [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;38828011] I turned off the radio, but several users were also complaining about his poor music quality, and he kept insisting to play terribly washed out rap songs.[/quote] What can I say? It's his choice of music, let him be. If he is just playing really stupid shit that aren't even songs I see that as hogging the job without playing it properly so I would expect an admin to take action. [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;38828011] I didn't even have a radio. I told him I could convert whatever music he's playing right now, and make it have a better sound quality. He never replied, and kept going on his rampage of saying, 'ISH IT WORKING' people did try to demote him numerous times, but as you can guess. Most people are busy contrafarming and probably don't even own a radio.[/quote] If you didn't have a radio how did you hear what he was playing? What would be the joy of you 'converting' the music he is playing? It's no fun for him that way since you would have control(?). Plus, why would you even want to convert the music that YOU HATE? I imagine he probably said 'ISH IT WORKING' a few times and you just got mad because you couldn't get the job. [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;38828011] The admin was pretty much following us the entire time out of the sewers. He watched the situation unfold, and refused to actually step in and deal with it. That's the point of where I'm pissed off. He was following us as we left the sewers.[/quote] I really can't comment on this, I've had no complaints about allerbaster in the past and I see him as a good admin, if you have any other issues with any of my Admins and you can provide proof I will happily deal with them. [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;38828011] Don't add shitty anti-propkilling systems when you can easily block propkilling in several other fashions. Ie. Making an building system which doesn't need physgun/toolgun.[/quote] Shitty anti-propkilling system? Personally I think it's absolutely perfect. I will note a few options and why I won't use them. A) Restrict toolgun/physgun - I have never understood them servers that block them and run DarkRP.. My playerbase will vanish pretty quickly if I did that imo. B) No-colide all props that are being touched with a physgun - This causes multiple problems and users are still able to drop props ontop of people and all that other crap. My solution: When a prop is thrown it will travel a very small distance before coming to a stop instantly, this stops people 'accidently' launching props, props falling by accident and people simply launching props around.. If the player manages to propkill then the users props are frozen, the user is frozen and he gets a really annoying red screen telling him he has been a bad boy, if he does it again he gets banned. It annoys people like you and probably makes you think it isn't worth all the consequences you get after propkilling someone. [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;38828011] That is seriously beyond retarded. Why would you take an job which is pretty much meant to be for playing music/doing talkshows, and turning it into something which you've gotta wait 36 hours to even have it. You are openly encouraging people to stay on your servers via cockteasing, and in some senses trying to scam them into donating.[/quote] I don't really know what you're talking about here tbh. The whole member system is pretty good imo. Jobs like SWAT Leader that spawn with very powerful guns, radio-broadcaster job that is in huge demand should only be given to people who are loyal to my server. As a new player you have enough jobs to play, as you stay longer you get more jobs to ease the bordem. I don't really know how I am 'scamming' somebody, when I do make the radio host back to member I will put in a new job for VIP, I'm pretty sure they won't mind. Infact, if it makes you feel better I'll remove the radio-broadcaster from the donation page altogether. [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;38828011] The morale of the story is your admin was following us and didn't do anything about the situation. Your crappy propkilling system didn't catch the player who was actually proppushing and how the system is set up is that you've gotta embarrass yourself because some other persons fuck up.[/QUOTE] As I've said multiple times, I cannot speak for the admin and I won't make excuses for him since I was not there. My 'crappy' propkilling system actually works very well and does it's job nicely. Please tell me how on earth I can detect proppushing and I will most definitely implement it! Not at all, you embarrassed yourself because of YOUR fuckup. YOU propkilled not him. It is YOUR fault you did not call an admin or take a quick screenshot with the touch of a key of him pushing you with a prop. Moral of the story: You joined my server, guy played music you didn't like, you went to turn off his microphone, he ran away and proppushed you, you propkilled him, my propkill system caught you, you got mad, posted here and gave my server bad reputation for your own problem.

[QUOTE=munch;38828444]What? I explained why it was VIP?[/QUOTE] What you said was "I think we all have enough of kids running around as hobos screaming through the mic to not want them on the radio, too." That implies you think your VIPs are mature adults, when this kid proves that's not the case.

[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;38828515]What you said was "I think we all have enough of kids running around as hobos screaming through the mic to not want them on the radio, too." That implies you think your VIPs are mature adults, when this kid proves that's not the case.[/QUOTE] Not at all, how can I guarantee that a VIP is mature? I can't. However, adding it to VIP (for now) does take away most of the idiots who would hog the job without using it how it should be. I'm not at all saying that 'anyone who isn't vip can't do the job properly!!!' or 'anyone who hasn't spend X hours can't do the job properly!!!!' instead I am saying that there is more chance that a person who has donated or has many hours in my server understands the rules, knows how to play by them and will use the job better than random people joining my server who are new.

Anti prop kill systems are dangerous and should [highlight]NEVER[/highlight] be used. Never. Here is why. 1. Have malicious intent 2. find someone's prop lying around unfrozen 3. spawn a prop 4. Hold the prop behind the other person's prop 5. scroll back 6. Die because the other person's prop is pushed into you 7. Say this in OOC: "OMG I GOT PROP KILLED" 8. Repeat until the other person gets banned. I personally know people who do this. They [b]will[/b] exploit this as soon as they see such a system. They [b]will[/b] get half a dozen people banned before anyone even notices something fishy is going on. Even if you detect whether a prop is pushed by a second prop and use that to find the killer, it [b]still[/b] wouldn't be effective. Prop killers know these exploits and will abuse them, your admins are ignorant. Don't tell me your admins are not ignorant about this, if the system tells you that x prop killed y, then the system must be right, as it is machine code. They don't know there are HUGE flaws in it. Those two combine to many innocent people getting banned.

[QUOTE=FPtje;38828575]Anti prop kill systems are dangerous and should [highlight]NEVER[/highlight] be used. Never. Here is why. 1. Have malicious intent 2. find someone's prop lying around unfrozen 3. spawn a prop 4. Hold the prop behind the other person's prop 5. scroll back 6. Die because the other person's prop is pushed into you 7. Say this in OOC: "OMG I GOT PROP KILLED" 8. Repeat until the other person gets banned. I personally know people who do this. They [B]will[/B] exploit this as soon as they see such a system. They [B]will[/B] get half a dozen people banned before anyone even notices something fishy is going on. Even if you detect whether a prop is pushed by a second prop and use that to find the killer, it [B]still[/B] wouldn't be effective. Prop killers know these exploits and will abuse them, your admins are ignorant. Don't tell me your admins are not ignorant about this, if the system tells you that x prop killed y, then the system must be right, as it is machine code. They don't know there are HUGE flaws in it. Those two combine to many innocent people getting banned.[/QUOTE] I completely agree and understand that these systems have many flaws and have tried to work at them, I have done the system as good as I possibly can. The chances of someone actually doing that are fairly rare, I won't argue that it never happens because it probably does but I will argue that my system bans a lot of legit propkillers and makes my admins job a lot easier so that they don't have to run around after a propkill has happened and try to trace the prop that caused it and act on suspicion only via the console. Also, my admins NEVER deal with the propkill system, they are taught to leave it alone. If someone is punished by it, they won't go ahead and punish them again or ban them. The system itself will ban them after the 2nd propkill. The only time my admin will punish a user by kick/ban is if they see the propkill with there own eyes. Edit: Also, the propkillers props are frozen upon propkill. So if they do find a prop that is unfrozen and do what you said the prop is automatically frozen making it 'impossible' to do it again with the same prop, this does help the situation but I do understand it's still possible.

[QUOTE=munch;38828645]The system itself will ban them after the 2nd propkill.[/QUOTE] Does that not make what FPtje said even more plausible? Now there isn't even human interaction. The system can only react to what it detects happen, and what it detects is a prop owned by "innocentuser123" killed "obviousminge702". If innocentuser has 2 props unfrozen he's getting banned.

[QUOTE=BL00DB4TH;38828982]Does that not make what FPtje said even more plausible? Now there isn't even human interaction. The system can only react to what it detects happen, and what it detects is a prop owned by "innocentuser123" killed "obviousminge702". If innocentuser has 2 props unfrozen he's getting banned.[/QUOTE] True. As I said above, the amount of propkillers it catches and the amount of help it is to admins, the amount of time they save is worth the possible accidental ban. The ban is only 6 hours anyway. You can see [URL="http://www.urbangamers.net/bans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=automatic%20ban&advType=reason"]here[/URL] that it has banned 250 or so users, not once have I had a complaint or report of a false ban.

[QUOTE=BL00DB4TH;38828982]Does that not make what FPtje said even more plausible? Now there isn't even human interaction. The system can only react to what it detects happen, and what it detects is a prop owned by "innocentuser123" killed "obviousminge702". If innocentuser has 2 props unfrozen he's getting banned.[/QUOTE] Innocentuser123's props (all of them) are automatically frozen when a propkill with their prop is detected to avoid such [i]exploitation[/i] from happening again.

Munch, I'm going to give you a headsup here. Loyalty/Community Patriotism is a fucking joke. The man who invented the concept of loyalty is the same person who brown-noses the leader for admin. If hours/donations is how you judge loyalty, then may whatever mingebags you encounter have mercy. The reason I'm biting your head off for the whole radio broadcaster being only used by donators/VIPs is because it's restricting what the job could be truly used for. If the only players who get it are donators they'll obviously not back-talk or criticize the community in talk-shows because they are afraid of having their donator-abilities removed for being critical. At the same time it segregates the playerbase between those who've donated and those who haven't... Forcing a feeling of needing to donate to get the full-experience. Hence why I'm calling it a scam. I also don't need to provide your server with bad rep, you could seemingly do that on your own without my intervention.

Stop this drama RIGHT NOW OR YOU SHALL FEEL THE PUNISHMENT OF THE GODS (aka someone gives you a ban :v:)

[QUOTE=munch;38829061]True. As I said above, the amount of propkillers it catches and the amount of help it is to admins, the amount of time they save is worth the possible accidental ban. The ban is only 6 hours anyway. You can see [URL="http://www.urbangamers.net/bans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=automatic%20ban&advType=reason"]here[/URL] that it has banned 250 or so users, not once have I had a complaint or report of a false ban.[/QUOTE] If you are really that against prop killing, wouldn't it be better to have preventative measures like not making props do any damage at all, instead of a system that automatically bans, because I'm going to agree, people getting banned from an automatic system does seem a little unstable, and could cause a lot of issues. Anyways, sorry for going more off topic.

[QUOTE=munch;38828645]The chances of someone actually doing that are fairly rare.[/QUOTE] This is your biggest mistake. This chance is huge. I just said how to do it on a public fucking forum. I know the people who abuse these scripts. I've seen it happen with my own god damn eyes. Give me your server IP and I will get everyone banned, or I'll ask my friend crash, he's a master at that kind of stuff. Edit: oh hey I'm already banned. And I didn't even finish joining! :v: Fuck this shit: [url]http://www.urbangamers.net/bans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A0%3A8944068&Submit=[/url] It says it's expired. Bullshit! I was banned in god damn MARCH for ONE month and I still can't join. How long do you guys think a month last?

[QUOTE=FPtje;38832013] oh hey I'm already banned. And I didn't even finish joining! :v: Fuck this shit: [url]http://www.urbangamers.net/bans/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A0%3A8944068&Submit=[/url][/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Teaching others who to prop-surf in a correct manner[/QUOTE] Seems like it belongs in this thread.

I can confirm Munch's server is shit and give stupid bans.

I updated FAdmin spectate. In the new spectate function you don't necessarily have to spectate a player. You can also roam around freely. As far as I know, FAdmin spectate is the [b]only[/b] spectating script that can't be detected by clientside scripts. Admin mods like Evolve and ULX use the source engine's spectate, which can be detected. This makes FAdmin spectate [i]very[/i] powerful. Note: Your movement is not blocked while you're spectating. This is desired behaviour, because it makes the spectating less apparent.

Lol munich's server is a joke don't listen to his crap, he doesn't know how to code anything and he is so useless. I had him added for a month during the transition to gmod 13 and he only bragged about how he paid someone to code his crappy anti prop kill script. (I have minged his server many times before and never got banned doing the exact stuff falco said) Minimal anti minge crap and more admins on the server is always going to be better!

[QUOTE=FPtje;38838904]I updated FAdmin spectate. In the new spectate function you don't necessarily have to spectate a player. You can also roam around freely. As far as I know, FAdmin spectate is the [b]only[/b] spectating script that can't be detected by clientside scripts. Admin mods like Evolve and ULX use the source engine's spectate, which can be detected. This makes FAdmin spectate [i]very[/i] powerful. Note: Your movement is not blocked while you're spectating. This is desired behaviour, because it makes the spectating less apparent.[/QUOTE] As awesome as updates are. Wrong thread?

[QUOTE=Pantho;38839668]As awesome as updates are. Wrong thread?[/QUOTE] Server owners and admins read this thread. It's related to the stupid ban reasons because I seriously believe that people will be posting here less if admins used god damn spectate. Tell your admins that, I've heard that they need some training on administration.

most likely deserved this, but it's still a fun story i was playing darkrp (never again) and i was was a duel ring fighter. since i couldn't go anything as that since the cops would instantly arrest me, i just spawned explosive barrels (they allowed em) and started punching them and killing myself. among that, i kinda killed a few other people... if they allow it, why bother? oh also i got a scolding from an admin for running and punching and killing a guy that had 4 health that was mugging a person. nice..

[QUOTE=FPtje;38840045]Server owners and admins read this thread. It's related to the stupid ban reasons because I seriously believe that people will be posting here less if admins used god damn spectate. Tell your admins that, I've heard that they need some training on administration.[/QUOTE] <snip> No, it's not related. You should post addon updates in the relative thread, no need to be so crass about it. I really can't see how you can justify posting an update to your addons inside this thread. Moronic logic.

[QUOTE=Pantho;38842757]<snip> No, it's not related. You should post addon updates in the relative thread, no need to be so crass about it. I really can't see how you can justify posting an update to your addons inside this thread. Moronic logic.[/QUOTE] God you are stupid, I mean seriously all the way through your core

I was votebanned from my own server :C

I was banned from my own server once when I was undercover. I always say to admins they need to kick or ban them for a little while if they're doing something stupid like prop pushing etc (build server, fucking arseholes prop pushing when I'm building gets on my nerves) so I prop push one of my trail admins and I get permabanned. I unban myself, go on the server with my real name and ask them why he permabanned "that person". He lied to me right infront of my face so I demoted him and banned him. Too bad I didn't have time for my server so it shut down.

What did he say your undercover account was doing? Kind of makes me curious.

I have to let it out, but it's not a ban: [IMG]http://ascii-table.com/img/keyboard-103P.png[/IMG] I got kicked for "retard" on a DarkRP server, the admin (no memory of his name) tried to explain how to set names. I said I didn't know how to, then when my keyboard layout went from Swedish to English I tried to explain it (but failed, because I didn't know it was called "Keyboard layout". I said things like "underscore key turned into a question mark& vice versa", "keys 8 and 9 wouldn't write brackets" and more random things about my keyboard. Then he went quiet and there my kick was I had no idea what "keyboard layout" was, and I couldn't even explain it! But I figured it out when I tried typing East Asian by right-clicking in the Developer Console's textbox. I then figured out what I did wrong

[QUOTE=FPtje;38865807]What did he say your undercover account was doing? Kind of makes me curious.[/QUOTE]Speed hacking and prop spamming. I also have access to the console so I showed him no one did anything so I gave him the boot. Too bad my laptop is broken or I'd show you guys when I joined etc.

Pantho, him posting his updates about his admin mod to prevent stupid bans etc. In fact, what he's updated it to do would probably help your server a lot. That is, if you could convince your admins to leave their printer farms.

permbanned from a sledbuild server today after an admin threatened to DDoS me--after confronting him he hid in the corner of the map and denied ever threatening me, lied and claimed to have said something else. When I said I had recorded it he then admitted to it, acted like it wasn't a big deal and banned me permanently with no reason.

I got banned for for flying on a server that allowed it.

I got banned from a basewars server. Me and 2 of my friends joined and were messing around when we found out we could use the color tool to make each other invisible. We all went around with a knife raiding peoples half built bases and killing randoms. Then we came across an admin (not knowing) and all tried to shank him. We all got banned perm. for trolling.