Sassilization Drama - Garry's Mod

[QUOTE=seduce;40853692]wut? It's Garrysmod. Hold onto your belongings a little better and don't hire 10 kids to do nothing but to leak your shit later on.[/QUOTE] i dont own sassilization so idk what you are talking about

Why does the original Sas community care so much? They should be happy that experienced and talented coders are taking this on and working on making the game-mode run smoother. We are simply trying to take a game-mode that we loved and bring it back from the dead so people can enjoy it and the community of Sas responds with constant DDoS'ing day and night. On our forums someone from the sas community called us children and immature, yet you have not seen a single DDoS from us. Who is being immature now? Why don't we all just drop it, stop fighting, and see how this all plays out? Worst case scenario; some 12 year olds get their feeling hurt and best case scenario; Sassilization, the amazing game mode that it is, thrives from so many coders and players using it.

[QUOTE=Dutchess;40853934]Why does the original Sas community care so much? They should be happy that experienced and talented coders are taking this on and working on making the game-mode run smoother. We are simply trying to take a game-mode that we loved and bring it back from the dead so people can enjoy it and the community of Sas responds with constant DDoS'ing day and night. On our forums someone from the sas community called us children and immature, yet you have not seen a single DDoS from us. Who is being immature now? Why don't we all just drop it, stop fighting, and see how this all plays out? Worst case scenario; some 12 year olds get their feeling hurt and best case scenario; Sassilization, the amazing game mode that it is, thrives from so many coders and players using it.[/QUOTE] It's great that you like the gamemode, but you stole it. That's what people are pissed off about.

This isn't a discussion, I don't see why people are still speaking here, there was a little bit about copyright laws at the start, but that has soon changed it to childish arguing. If it is 3 years old and not being used, Sass shouldn't give a shit - it is of no use to them; whether or not Arean wants to dig up this old crap and use it is up to them. Neither communities managers will want this mindless drama, so you should all go back to your respective communities and keep this petty squabbling off the forums.

[QUOTE=>>oubliette<<;40854151]This isn't a discussion, I don't see why people are still speaking here, there was a little bit about copyright laws at the start, but that has soon changed it to childish arguing. If it is 3 years old and not being used, Sass shouldn't give a shit - it is of no use to them; whether or not Arean wants to dig up this old crap and use it is up to them. Neither communities managers will want this mindless drama, so you should all go back to your respective communities and keep this petty squabbling off the forums.[/QUOTE] Well said. Bye bye.

The Sass community shouldn't use the argument "closed source" or "leaked". It's been out in the open for roughly four years now, and has been tinkered/fucked with by multiple groups and communities. It's as open source'd as PERP is now. Get over it.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;40854548]The Sass community shouldn't use the argument "closed source" or "leaked". It's been out in the open for roughly four years now, and has been tinkered/fucked with by multiple groups and communities. It's as open source'd as PERP is now. Get over it.[/QUOTE] PERP is a horrible analogy, Pulsar Effect rolled over and died. Then later both owners cared little about the code. Whereas in Sassilization, the community is up and they are still working on the gamemode.

Welcome! In this thread: Areanananeaneagaming or something trying to defend themselves stealing other people's work.

[QUOTE=Ice Tea;40854584]PERP is a horrible analogy, Pulsar Effect rolled over and died. Then later both owners cared little about the code. Whereas in Sassilization, the community is up and they are still working on the gamemode.[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter. It's as open source as PERP, and a funny thing about the later statement. PulsarEffect is actually up and running(all though on life support), and does still host it's own PERP servers. I also don't see why this is such an issue in the eyes of Sass members, what's wrong with competition? [editline]31st May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Fabiolous;40854811]Welcome! In this thread: Areanananeaneagaming or something trying to defend themselves stealing other people's work.[/QUOTE] In this thread: Xenophobia - The How To Guide

The gamemode was leaked a while ago. We have taken down many mirrors and websites that hosted the content with the help of a staff member. We had some changes in our staff and some links were available for short period of time (not to say they may or may not have already retrieved a copy). I'm sure there are still mirrors floating around unfound by us. They took the gamemode and worked on it to use for themselves without even so much as telling us. They (or their community members) have made several failed attempts at advertising at our various community sites. I have had no knowledge of any attacks on the community in which is using the leaked content. We have not encouraged this at any time to my knowledge. If a pissed off Sass player is doing this, there isn't much we can do for you. We can't slap their wrist and make them stop. And that's all I have to say on the matter.

Why not make your servers better than the other ones running a stolen game mode?

That's pretty much the idea for any community. The strongest, most decent communities will survive. Also, I appreciate that Aaron came out and commented on the matter. Whether or not he actually cares enough that we have it isn't that big of a concern, but I don't like the way on how our community members are advertising it on your sites (if that's what you were saying?). I know I wouldn't like it, and it doesn't help any community's reputation. I'd like to do something about it but it comes back to the fact that it happened externally to our community so I don't know if it's punishable on our side of the fence. If it is, I'll look into it and deal with said members.

[QUOTE=A_Pigeon;40855692]Why not make your servers better than the other ones running a stolen game mode?[/QUOTE] It's probably best if you don't comment on something you don't know much about. [quote]if that's what you were saying?[/quote] Yes. [quote]If it is, I'll look into it and deal with said members.[/quote] I assume that means you're a part of this community? I know little to nothing about it, sorry. If so, thanks, I guess. It really isn't that big of a deal, but it did make your community look worse. I'm sure these people who are posting on Sassilization's behalf on their forums and what not are making us look bad as well. I'll dig into it later.

[QUOTE=Fabiolous;40854811]Welcome! In this thread: Areanananeaneagaming or something trying to defend themselves stealing other people's work.[/QUOTE] Because I involve myself in anything gmod related outside of the dos thread and this thread now which I saw when checking the dos thread. I've played it for a total of maybe 5 hours in the last two years, nice try though.

[QUOTE=Ice Tea;40854584]PERP is a horrible analogy, Pulsar Effect rolled over and died. Then later both owners cared little about the code. Whereas in Sassilization, the community is up and they are still working on the gamemode.[/QUOTE] [editline]31st May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=seduce;40856539][/QUOTE] Did you ever play PERP? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

[QUOTE=seduce;40856539][editline]31st May 2013[/editline] Did you ever play PERP? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] You're saying that PERP is good or something? Oh god...

[QUOTE=Knoxed;40856573]You're saying that PERP is good or something? Oh god...[/QUOTE] Whether I said PERP was good or not is irrelevant, I was responding to the fact that he said Pulsar Effect rolled over and died and then "both the owners" cared little about the code. He should probably not be talking about stuff he has no idea about if he was nowhere near Garry's Mod at the time.

[QUOTE=Aaron113;40856381]I assume that means you're a part of this community? I know little to nothing about it, sorry. If so, thanks, I guess. It really isn't that big of a deal, but it did make your community look worse. I'm sure these people who are posting on Sassilization's behalf on their forums and what not are making us look bad as well. I'll dig into it later.[/QUOTE] I don't have access to your forums, but Phantom says it's no-one from our side, so I'm at a standstill. Sorry. Also, we don't ban for external incidents outside our community. Figured as much, but this has turned into a bigger deal than it should have which is why I got a little confused.

That's fine, I wasn't expecting much anyway. All I wanted to do here was clear some stuff up and stop invalid rumors I've been hearing. So I'm done with the topic now.

Why does this thread still exist? Let it die already...

[QUOTE=seduce;40856622]Whether I said PERP was good or not is irrelevant, I was responding to the fact that he said Pulsar Effect rolled over and died and then "both the owners" cared little about the code. He should probably not be talking about stuff he has no idea about if he was nowhere near Garry's Mod at the time.[/QUOTE] Yes I played PERP 1 for over a year, and play on a PERP server currently from time to time. I've also spoken to BlackFur on how he feels on the subject and he basically doesn't mind it that much anymore. Sorry for derailing, might be best to just close this thread anyways.

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