Server Authority Prioritisation is annoying, take notes, hosters.

[Ananace]

You could have a long discussion about when a kick/ban is relevant. The way I see it, I'm okay with you doing whatever you want on my servers, though don't expect me to be okay with it if you start trying to ruin the game for other people.
That includes being an extreme annoyance in chat and trying to crash the server.
Personally, I use the '1-2-3-You're out' principle; One warning, two kicks if you keep it up, three bans if you just won't stop.

Either way, I don't really get why you must have a list of rules to begin with.
Most of that shit should be common sense, and if you don't have common sense then I guess I'll just have to hammer that sense into your head with a kick/ban-hammer.

[Psycommu]

[QUOTE=|Arblarg|;41157800]If you ever have to ban somebody for any reason outside of :

-Hacking/Using legitimate lua hacks
-DDoS'ing/Threat of DDoS
-Prop spamming or similar to crash the server

Then you're doing something wrong, probably using subjective reasoning to ban a person.[/QUOTE]

So I guess banning for prop pushing on players/others contraptions, repeated use of loud thruster/turret sounds, prop killing, and other forms of player annoyance is doing something wrong?

[Joey Skylynx]

[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;41162188]So I guess banning for prop pushing on players/others contraptions, repeated use of loud thruster/turret sounds, prop killing, and other forms of player annoyance is doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]

All things can be avoided through other means. Proppushing by implementing systems which "fade" props and contraptions when touched, removing turret and thruster sounds is easily done by simply just removing the ability to click the selections in the toolgun menu, propkilling is the same "fade" system, and "player annoyance" is subjective.

[Psycommu]

That would be nice to have if my server wasn't already very close to the lua limit due to other anti-abuse etc. systems installed, ACF, Wiremod/Extras, and other massively user requested STools.

If we weren't about to hit it, I would happily add any addon that would prevent that.

Also don't want to remove _all_ sound changing abilities, some are tolerable, some are not.

[Joey Skylynx]

[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;41162540]That would be nice to have if my server wasn't already very close to the lua limit due to other anti-abuse etc. systems installed, ACF, Wiremod/Extras, and other massively user requested STools.

If we weren't about to hit it, I would happily add any addon that would prevent that.[/QUOTE]
ACF and Wiremod on their own could use massive optimizations, I'll give you that. The "other requested stools" is interesting though. Mind hitting a list of what you have?

[Psycommu]

Multiparent/unparent, no-collide multi (which is broken and I ought to remove anyhow until I can find a working version), no-collide all multi, smart welder, weight, fin, buoyancy, adv dupe 1 & 2, wing tool, stacker, make spherical, unbreakable, precision alignment, easy precision, axis centre, ballsocket centre, ballsocket advanced, and wheel2.

To appease lua coders that come onto our server, easylua and a whole bunch of other lua tools were also added that took up a lot of space (which included a custom chatbox).

[|Arblarg|]

[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;41162188]So I guess banning for prop pushing on players/others contraptions, repeated use of loud thruster/turret sounds, prop killing, and other forms of player annoyance is doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]
2011+2
Not using proper prop protection with prop push protection
Not using sbox_maxthrusters 0 so they can only use wire ones
Not setting people to a rank that disallows them from being annoyances instead of banning them (they leave on their own accord)

ISHYGDDT.

So yes, you're doing something wrong.

[Psycommu]

[QUOTE=|Arblarg|;41162668]2011+2
Not using proper prop protection with prop push protection
[B]Good reason for that, read above.[/B]

Not using sbox_maxthrusters 0 so they can only use wire ones
[B]Sometimes people use those for quick little things, or maybe they don't know how to use wire? I don't want everyone that comes on [I]have[/I] to have the knowledge of wire to be able to play.[/B]

Not setting people to a rank that disallows them from being annoyances instead of banning them (they leave on their own accord)
[B]Actually our new admin mod, when someone gets banned, they stay but they walk around slowly, can't talk, can't noclip, nor do anything else but watch. :v:[/B][/QUOTE]

[editline]24th June 2013[/editline]

Also in the case that I free up enough space to add something, please do suggest an addon for prop pushing protection that I don't have to get rid of NADmod to install.