Tomorrow, 1,500 people are getting banned for using Script Enforcer bypasses. - Garry's Mod

[QUOTE=Zombie man70;41380864][url]https://twitter.com/garrynewman/status/353430939000504321[/url][/QUOTE] I realize it will take him time.

I was personally banned but I got another Steam account for Garry's mod. I don't really care about being banned but what pisses me off was I tested to see if hacks work on my friend's server ONCE, but instead of crying about it I accepted that it was still cheating and moved on.

[QUOTE=garry;41380901]We already decide who can and can't play on your server via Steam. The cheaters have had their multiplayer rights removed - they're not banned from your server - they're banned from multiplayer.[/QUOTE] I host a multiplayer server. They can't play on my server due to their multiplayer ban. They're banned from my server.

[QUOTE=Frost1120;41380957]I host a multiplayer server. They can't play on my server due to their multiplayer ban. They're banned from my server.[/QUOTE] So you're making an anti-cheat, but you're complaining that cheaters can't play on your server? Logic

[QUOTE=Zombie man70;41380994]So you're making an anti-cheat, but you're complaining that cheaters can't play on your server? Logic[/QUOTE] Because GAC isn't a direct kick/ban. That's why we need to make our own.

[QUOTE=Zombie man70;41380994]So you're making an anti-cheat, but you're complaining that cheaters can't play on your server? Logic[/QUOTE] Some of my admins who tested my anticheat were banned. I'd like to allow them to play. As for the anticheat, I'd rather immediate consequences against cheaters than Garry's system of logging them cheating and banning them in the next update.

[QUOTE=garry;41380901]We already decide who can and can't play on your server via Steam. The cheaters have had their multiplayer rights removed - they're not banned from your server - they're banned from multiplayer.[/QUOTE] But that defeats the object of the entire conversation in the last ~2 or more pages. Owners should have rights over who is banned from their server. I understand that you are doing it to stop the hackers from causing trouble on servers, which is why (if I remember correctly) the cvar could be enabled by default if you were to ever add it. Some servers [I]do[/I] have antihack/anticheat scripts, and such servers (or rather, their owners) wouldn't mind the hackers playing there.

[QUOTE=Frost1120;41381041]Some of my admins who tested my anticheat were banned. I'd like to allow them to play. As for the anticheat, I'd rather immediate consequences against cheaters than Garry's system of logging them cheating and banning them in the next update.[/QUOTE] Then keep your anti-cheat on the server and right 2 lines of code that lets your admins join. It's pretty fucking simple.

[QUOTE=Frost1120;41380957]I host a multiplayer server. They can't play on my server due to their multiplayer ban. They're banned from my server.[/QUOTE] No, i'm pretty sure they're just banned from Multiplayer and can't play on your server as a result of their cheating. It's not rocket science dude.

[QUOTE=Zombie man70;41381073]Then keep your anti-cheat on the server and right 2 lines of code that lets your admins join. It's pretty fucking simple.[/QUOTE] It's a little more than 2 lines of code. I'd rather have an official release from Garry. [QUOTE=Caulo32;41381129]No, i'm pretty sure they're just banned from Multiplayer and can't play on your server as a result of their cheating. It's not rocket science dude.[/QUOTE] I don't see the difference. Multiplayer is made up of servers they're now unable to join.

[QUOTE=Caulo32;41381129]No, i'm pretty sure they're just banned from Multiplayer and can't play on your server as a result of their cheating. It's not rocket science dude.[/QUOTE] Yeah, well they're dumb enough to think Garry will change this. 1,500 hackers banned, 1,500 people falsely accused or testing an anti-cheat.

[QUOTE=Zombie man70;41381073]Then keep your anti-cheat on the server and right 2 lines of code that lets your admins join. It's pretty fucking simple.[/QUOTE] What lines of code? Garry is forcing GAC. They can't join. How hard is this to understand?

[QUOTE=Frost1120;41381144]It's a little more than 2 lines of code. I'd rather have an official release from Garry.[/QUOTE] Actually, it's 2 lines of code. Oh, and someone already wrote them so you can skip that step.

Garry, here's a question for you: What about the prop killing server? People are allowed to used hacks and cheats on them, that's one of the fun parts about them severs! Your decision is destroying the person who coded the gamemode's hard work!

[QUOTE=Zombie man70;41381172]Actually, it's 2 lines of code. Oh, and someone already wrote them so you can skip that step.[/QUOTE] Oh, and that .dll part, you know, the crucial bit. I'm not going to install something on my server if I don't know what's in it, especially a .dll.

[QUOTE=Expired;41380914]I was personally banned but I got another Steam account for Garry's mod. I don't really care about being banned but what pisses me off was I tested to see if hacks work on my friend's server ONCE, but instead of crying about it I accepted that it was still cheating and moved on.[/QUOTE] Uh, if you made your own cheat and only used it once, I doubt you would get banned for that. Garry said he'll only ban if he knows 100% that you cheated (by that I assume he means maliciously; So one server wouldn't mean a ban if it was only once, I assume.)

[QUOTE=Frost1120;41381219]Oh, and that .dll part, you know, the crucial bit. I'm not going to install something on my server if I don't know what's in it, especially a .dll.[/QUOTE] Then it looks like you will never be able to play with your admins. How sad. I'm sure if there was something wrong with it someone would've said something.

[QUOTE=Expired;41381216]Garry, here's a question for you: What about the prop killing server? People are allowed to used hacks and cheats on them, that's one of the fun parts about them severs! Your decision is destroying the person who coded the gamemode's hard work![/QUOTE] Those servers have the clientside lua running enabled, so they wont suffer from it.

[QUOTE=Frost1120;41381219]Oh, and that .dll part, you know, the crucial bit. I'm not going to install something on my server if I don't know what's in it, especially a .dll.[/QUOTE] The creator posted the source earlier in this thread, so until garry chooses to put a cvar in for it, that's your best option. [QUOTE=bromvlieg;41381314]Those servers have the clientside lua running enabled, so they wont suffer from it.[/QUOTE] I think his point was that he wanted to play on those servers with his main account, and not have to make an alt to play on a server that doesn't care about banning you for cheats anyway.

[QUOTE=bromvlieg;41381162]What lines of code? Garry is forcing GAC. They can't join. How hard is this to understand?[/QUOTE] There are ways to still allow banned people to join; Figure it out yourself :).

[QUOTE=SashaWolf;41381324]The creator posted the source earlier in this thread.[/QUOTE] He's just trying to make things difficult at every turn. We have a solution to all of his problems but he doesn't listen.

[QUOTE=bromvlieg;41381314]Those servers have the clientside lua running enabled, so they wont suffer from it.[/QUOTE] Yes but some people still used external programs to run their scripts and they are now banned for it. They will suffer from it because they are now globally banned!

[QUOTE=SashaWolf;41381324]The creator posted the source earlier in this thread.[/QUOTE] Oh, he did? In any case, I'm not looking for some homebrew solutions that Garry might patch or update something that breaks it.

[QUOTE=Jellyman;41381306]Uh, if you made your own cheat and only used it once, I doubt you would get banned for that. Garry said he'll only ban if he knows 100% that you cheated (by that I assume he means maliciously; So one server wouldn't mean a ban if it was only once, I assume.)[/QUOTE] The reason i got banned was for "(Cheat Engine)", not for even running any scripts in the first place, proving your statement wrong.

[QUOTE=Expired;41381359]Yes but some people still used external programs to run their scripts and they are now banned for it. They will suffer from it because they are now globally banned![/QUOTE] Why would you do that if the server lets you run the hack? Unless you're using it on other servers or you're just really dumb.

[QUOTE=Zombie man70;41381357]He's just trying to make things difficult at every turn. We have a solution to all of his problems but he doesn't listen.[/QUOTE] You shouldn't have to run some ghetto third party module to allow GAC banned players on your server.

[QUOTE=Expired;41381370]The reason i got banned was for "(Cheat Engine)", not for even running any scripts in the first place, proving your statement wrong.[/QUOTE] Using Cheat Engine isn't making your own cheats, so my statement is still valid. Sorry. [editline]9th July 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=SashaWolf;41381383]You shouldn't have to run some ghetto third party module to allow GAC banned players on your server.[/QUOTE] You don't have to. Make your own.

[QUOTE=SashaWolf;41381383]You shouldn't have to run some ghetto third party module to allow GAC banned players on your server.[/QUOTE] Holy shit. Complain much? If there is a solution to your problem but you're to stubborn to use it, then SHUT THE FUCK UP! [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Orkel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Zombie man70;41381409]Holy shit. Complain much? If there is a solution to your problem but you're to stubborn to use it, then SHUT THE FUCK UP![/QUOTE] If you have nothing nice to say then I suggest you do the same. Your opinion isn't the only thing that matters here. The point still stands. Garry should add a cvar that disables the banlist.

[QUOTE=Jellyman;41381395]Using Cheat Engine isn't making your own cheats, so my statement is still valid. Sorry. It isn't valid, I never even said I made my own cheats -_-