Tomorrow, 1,500 people are getting banned for using Script Enforcer bypasses.
482 replies, posted
[QUOTE=Effektiv;41339314]Everyone wants to use it.[/QUOTE]
I can name quite a few people who don't. Such as I, and most of the other people banned for some scripts (may not have been hacks! Maybe have been bunnyhopping scripts.. etc) that own servers and want to not use it.
[QUOTE=Effektiv;41339314]Everyone wants to use it.[/QUOTE]
wrong
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;41339357]I can name quite a few people who don't. Such as I, and most of the other people banned for some scripts (may not have been hacks! Maybe have been bunnyhopping scripts.. etc) that own servers and want to not use it.[/QUOTE]
OFC the banned people don't want to use it, they are banned. Hacks & cheats mingle together in gmod, you hack to cheat.
[QUOTE=Effektiv;41339444]OFC the banned people don't want to use it, they are banned. Hacks & cheats mingle together in gmod, you hack to cheat.[/QUOTE]
Hacking = "You use a bypasser to do something the game is not meant to do"
Cheating = "You use something to give an unfair advantage over other people"
print(tostring(Hacking == Cheating))
>false
True story.
And yes of course the banned people don't want to use it, but what about other server owners that have coders that have been banned?
Reverse Engineering is not only for cheating.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;41339511]
And yes of course the banned people don't want to use it, but what about other server owners that have coders that have been banned?[/QUOTE]
They can join the whole host of users that got easily unbanned.
[QUOTE=Effektiv;41339591]They can join the whole host of users that got easily unbanned.[/QUOTE]
That post makes me confused.
Don't worry , new quality Workshopper incoming with new addons.
[video=youtube;TGCT8k-0KHw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGCT8k-0KHw[/video]
.DLL are now allowed
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[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;41339629]That post makes me confused.[/QUOTE]
That's because you came to the bitch thread rather then reading the release note, if you were banned in error you can appeal by sending an email. Most people already have because very few coders have ever made the effort to make anti-cheats and have been posting on these very forums updates if they were.
[QUOTE=Effektiv;41339686]That's because you came to the bitch thread rather then reading the release note, if you were banned in error you can appeal by sending an email. Most people already have because very few coders have ever made the effort to make anti-cheats and have been posting on these very forums updates.[/QUOTE]
I didn't come to bitch, if you would read my very first post here you would have seen that. I read that note, and I sent an email and never got a response. I have made a very effective anticheat (being a lua anticheat, not EXTREMELY effective. Does it's job for 99% of the hackers.)
If Garry needs to see a good lua anticheat before adding that convar, I will release it; but I doubt he will even care about it.
Well the hackers ddosed facepunch after they got banned, so they really need lives or a job. Them skiddies.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;41339730]I didn't come to bitch, if you would read my very first post here you would have seen that. I read that note, and I sent an email and never got a response. I have made a very effective anticheat (being a lua anticheat, not EXTREMELY effective. Does it's job for 99% of the hackers.)
If Garry needs to see a good lua anticheat before adding that convar, I will release it; but I doubt he will even care about it.[/QUOTE]
I never said you were bitching, I said you came to the bitch thread. If you are making an anti cheat you will understand the reasons behind not giving the option. If you have emailed and given good reason with valid evidence you will get off like everyone else.
[QUOTE=awesomslayer20;41339755]Well the hackers ddosed facepunch after they got banned, so they really need lives or a job. Them skiddies.[/QUOTE]
grr I can't aimbot drp anymore and have to tell my mommy I need 2.50$
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;41339730]I didn't come to bitch, if you would read my very first post here you would have seen that. I read that note, and I sent an email and never got a response. I have made a very effective anticheat (being a lua anticheat, not EXTREMELY effective. Does it's job for 99% of the hackers.)
If Garry needs to see a good lua anticheat before adding that convar, I will release it; but I doubt he will even care about it.[/QUOTE]
Same here, I have also been banned while coding an anti-cheat and have not yet gotten a response from Garry. But because patience is a virtue I will wait a few more days, because he is probably getting tons of emails as we speak. He just needs time to go through all of them.
[QUOTE=Effektiv;41339767]If you are making an anti cheat you will understand the reasons behind not giving the option.[/QUOTE]
No, I don't see the reason behind not giving an option. Some people just don't like the idea, and who cares if it is optional? People who want to use it will use it, and people who don't, won't. I personally made my anticheat just to kick people for using cheats, not to permanently ban them from all the servers I code on.
Even VAC has a toggleable option. Punkbuster also. Two of the main anticheats of the most powerful games have that option, why shouldn't GAC?
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;41339852]No, I don't see the reason behind not giving an option. Some people just don't like the idea, and who cares if it is optional? People who want to use it will use it, and people who don't, won't. I personally made my anticheat just to kick people for using cheats, not to permanently ban them from all the servers I code on.
Even VAC has a toggleable option. Punkbuster also. Two of the main anticheats of the most powerful games have that option, why shouldn't GAC?[/QUOTE]
I'd be happy if there was a way for verified anti-cheat developers to do it, but as it stands, I'd rather have everybody banned who attempts to hack rather than just letting them dev and making sure they can bypass it. Why let them do it in the first place?
[QUOTE=Lerpaderp;41340101]I'd be happy if there was a way for verified anti-cheat developers to do it, but as it stands, I'd rather have everybody banned who attempts to hack rather than just letting them dev and making sure they can bypass it. Why let them do it in the first place?[/QUOTE]
That's a good point, but that would be redundant because they always have singleplayer to test it on, and they could even even use a server hosted from another computer (via hamachi, or just LAN).
On a side note: What if a server owner forced the client to download gmcl_cvar3 and force the client to change the sv_allowcslua convar to 1? Would the client get globally banned?
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;41339852]No, I don't see the reason behind not giving an option. Some people just don't like the idea, and who cares if it is optional? People who want to use it will use it, and people who don't, won't. I personally made my anticheat just to kick people for using cheats, not to permanently ban them from all the servers I code on.
Even VAC has a toggleable option. Punkbuster also. Two of the main anticheats of the most powerful games have that option, why shouldn't GAC?[/QUOTE]
Because garry has had general success with unforgiving and draconian methods.
[QUOTE=garry;41333934]More like I released an update and totally forgot that it was going to be on sale today.[/QUOTE]
For anyone who didn`t read the other pages of this thread and believe Garry is banning people so he can make money.
I'm one of the few who have been banned for playing with the hacks in a private server. No harm done to anyone, just some screwing around with a friend in his 2-slot, passworded server. I sent Garry an email 24 hours ago, but he has not responded; and judging by his responses to other's comments, he doesn't seem to care.
I didn't even know this anti-cheat system existed, and after racking up 880 hours in GMod over the past 7 years, I'm understandably upset about this. Yes, it was dumb of me to use the hack at all, but to be permanently banned from all servers for what I've done seems a cruel punishment.
(As a side note, the terms at [url]http://www.garrysmod.com/terms/[/url] didn't exist when I bought the game in 2006, and there was nothing to bring my attention to these new terms when they were written.)
To top it off, Garry put GMod on sale at the same time he pushed out the bans, so all of the cheaters get a cheap pass to start hacking again using alt accounts, and I'm stuck with my only Steam account being banned. :suicide:
[QUOTE=Bi0hazard;41340648]I'm one of the few who have been banned for playing with the hacks in a private server. No harm done to anyone, just some screwing around with a friend in his 2-slot, passworded server. I sent Garry an email 24 hours ago, but he has not responded; and judging by his responses to other's comments, he doesn't seem to care.[/QUOTE]
Or possibly he's getting overloaded by emails?
[QUOTE=Bi0hazard;41340648]I'm one of the few who have been banned for playing with the hacks in a private server. No harm done to anyone, just some screwing around with a friend in his 2-slot, passworded server. I sent Garry an email 24 hours ago, but he has not responded; and judging by his responses to other's comments, he doesn't seem to care.
I didn't even know this anti-cheat system existed, and after racking up 880 hours in GMod over the past 7 years, I'm understandably upset about this. Yes, it was dumb of me to use the hack at all, but to be permanently banned from all servers for what I've done seems a cruel punishment.
(As a side note, the terms at [url]http://www.garrysmod.com/terms/[/url] didn't exist when I bought the game in 2006, and there was nothing to bring my attention to these new terms when they were written.)
To top it off, Garry put GMod on sale at the same time he pushed out the bans, so all of the cheaters get a cheap pass to start hacking again using alt accounts, and I'm stuck with my only Steam account being banned. :suicide:[/QUOTE]
Well if you like gmod that much you could just buy it for 2,5 eu during the sale. that way you can keep enjoying gmod and support fp at the same time.
[QUOTE=Greatie;41340680]Or possibly he's getting overloaded by emails?[/QUOTE]
Time will tell, I suppose.
[QUOTE=DeveloperConsol;41340686]Well if you like gmod that much you could just buy it for 2,5 eu during the sale. that way you can keep enjoying gmod and support fp at the same time.[/QUOTE]
Buying GMod again won't remove the ban unless I get another Steam account, and I'm not going to go through that trouble.
[QUOTE=Goz3rr;41325594]Doubt very much all he did was check if you changed a value, because there's all kinds of different ban reasons floating around, implying he actually did more than just check a single value:
[/QUOTE]
You forgot one...
[img]http://i.imgur.com/of5CAY1.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Muggy;41340765]You forgot one...
[img]http://i.imgur.com/of5CAY1.png[/img][/QUOTE]
You could say HeX's plan outsmarted us all.
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;41340185]That's a good point, but that would be redundant because they always have singleplayer to test it on, and they could even even use a server hosted from another computer (via hamachi, or just LAN).
On a side note: What if a server owner forced the client to download gmcl_cvar3 and force the client to change the sv_allowcslua convar to 1? Would the client get globally banned?[/QUOTE]
And how exactly is a server owner going to force you to download gmcl_cvar3? You shouldn't have that shit installed anyway.
[QUOTE=Lerpaderp;41341065]And how exactly is a server owner going to force you to download gmcl_cvar3? You shouldn't have that shit installed anyway.[/QUOTE]
resource.AddFile("lua/bin/gmcl_cvar3_win32.dll")
?
Not exactly sure how resource.AddFile works.
I know there was an exploit awhile ago (like 2010 or something like that) which allowed servers to upload dll files to clients but AFAIK there hasn't been any methods since then to do that.
EDIT: Found it [url]http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=958462[/url]
[QUOTE=MeepDarknessM;41341110]resource.AddFile("lua/bin/gmcl_cvar3_win32.dll")
?
Not exactly sure how resource.AddFile works.[/QUOTE]
[lua]
resource.AddFile("lua/bin/free_virus.exe")
[/lua]
Only gmod files (Fonts , texture , particles , models..) are compatible with this function.
[QUOTE=ateefromgmod;41338699]are you retarded
here
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/0pAwU88.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I love how this guy acts like some big shot hardcore hacker, yet these are the only features that he supposedly coded.
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