[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]Yes, commands that were put in place by Stan to exploit the system. You were banned for a valid reason.[/QUOTE]
We where all banned for a valid reason, however everyone who was not part of our org was banned for a day and reset.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]Wonderful; at least someone isn't a selfish bastard and wants to actually accel the server instead of drag it down.[/QUOTE]
It's nice to have friends who sell you out trying to get admin on PE or people who try to be your friend only to spy on you. For some odd reason everyone who is related to PE seems to do this now.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]Actually, Cam was [b]NOT[/b] hired by Black - This is what Cam told Stan to troll him. Secondly, the gamemodes were leaked by Stan; he got them by creating an administrator account on our server using the file upload exploit as well as the cmd module that we use to create dua caches.[/QUOTE]
Well, I sure as hell would trust what CaM says over Black or Stan says so I guess I'll talk to him about this.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]Right; Google also blocked us and started sending warnings for that. Once again, he used the admin account he made.[/QUOTE]
Lol
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]Yes, and that's why your GMR server has a much lower population than did ours. Great logic.[/QUOTE]
Did I ever say my server would be more popular than yours? Nope, however there have been a lot of people who seem to like it though.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]Our rules are actually rather lax, the only reason you find them "nazish" is because you can't RP worth shit and you think exploiting shouldn't be bannable. And how would you know what goes on in private vent channels? If you are resorting to slander, you need to fucking grow up.[/QUOTE]
You can't take out a weapon in PERP without 5 admins questioning if you typed out a /me, PERP has ridiculous amounts of rules and you can walk down the street and get banned these days now.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]And the fact that GMR is the shittiest coded gamemode ever - it was the first gamemode I had ever coded. But that is beside the point.[/QUOTE]
Then why do you take such offence to it being hosted by someone else? I haven't attempted in any way to discredit you, I even kept your, black's and pk's skins in the gamemode and if any of you join you will have them.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]Hosting the GMR server is as much as an attack as "hacking" our servers.[/QUOTE]
Eh
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]If they are adding the tag, it's just as well to ban them if they only added it for drama.[/QUOTE]
The people who add the tag do it to join the drama, however majority of the people in the group (95%) joined it because [GU] was a shit hole and they wanted to join it to troll [GU].
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]This is, in fact, true. Your two-facedness is getting rather stupid. While talking to me you don't flame nor troll, but in the public you're one of the most immature assholes I've ever met.[/QUOTE]
I'll respond in a tone relative to what I am responding to, I never viewed you as someone who I dislike or hate. You haven't done anything to me to deserve such, however if you would like me to respond negatively I can. Also, I tend to word things a little differently on Facepunch or in a forum or public setting as do most people, you tend to do this also.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]This is true; I don't think that you could manage to code anything "malicious". If you have to stoop to stealing gamemodes; you're not worth a shit as either a community leader or a coder.[/QUOTE]
Okay.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]This isn't true. "Conspiracy Theorist" were actually collaborates on the first PE leak.[/QUOTE]
Hmm, I guess I mistook them for something else, people who tried to prove that Black removes things that make him or another of his friends look bad ended up banned anyways.
[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]Anyone, I think the point is shown clearly that most things you said were either wrong, ignorant, or just you being an immature shit. If you haven't noticed; no community that has hosted stolen gamemodes has succeeded; why would yours be the first?[/QUOTE]
The people who hosted your gamemodes had little or no knowledge of how a server even works.
I'm not sure if you realized this but BlackFur let Stan use the commands all he wanted, whenever knowledge of whatever he did went public Black would ban him, Stan talked to Black quite a lot and Black HAD to have had knowledge of this.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;18613112]HAHAHAHA, I didn,t go "crying" to blackfur. I told him because it was an exploit that had to be fixed. You know, your so butthurt because I told blackfur about your little plans to take over the server. You act like this big bad hacker but your a little spit in the ocean of real hackers. All you know is from other people. The ONLY way you could have done it is with cam and pcwizdan's help. Without them, you are a harmless little kitten. You even fail at dosing me. Get out, you are one big fail sadistic.[/QUOTE]
What the hell are you even talking about, we had plans to crash the server a few times. You still don't even know who Pcwizdan is or know anything about him, most of the things he knows I found anyways.
[QUOTE=IStanI;18614910]Wrong, wrong and wrong. I've had access to your box for a while, I never leaked gamemodes and I never put malicious iframes in your site.
Cam hasn't told me anything since the only time I talked to him was when he was going to "hack" me.[/QUOTE]
Hunts, you really should get a straight answer out of Black, I'm pretty sure he hasn't told you everything.
Here's the picture Cam gave me to post that Black actually paid him then chargebacked it.
[img_thumb]http://i50.tinypic.com/2qbxdns.png[/img_thumb]
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;18613112]HAHAHAHA, I didn,t go "crying" to blackfur. I told him because it was an exploit that had to be fixed. You know, your so butthurt because I told blackfur about your little plans to take over the server. You act like this big bad hacker but your a little spit in the ocean of real hackers. All you know is from other people. The ONLY way you could have done it is with cam and pcwizdan's help. Without them, you are a harmless little kitten. You even fail at dosing me. Get out, you are one big fail sadistic.[/QUOTE]
Take over the server. With a command. And from what I'm hearing, you would sit in vent. . To just hear someone say something? Then report it to an admin? Holy shit. Is this history repeating it self? It's like you're proving PERP is just darkrp, because people sit in random servers and if they hear something bad they trip over their computer wires as they type in the server to connect to.
You're not some top secret spy agent that is working undercover to uncover a bunch of hackers. Seriously, why would you waste time sitting in a vent server waiting for them to say something. Also, why would pretend to be their friends, then backstab them. Unless you sat their quietly. Then you say he is trying to be a hard hacker, yet whenever I bother to talk to him he says he doesn't do shit. It's like you tried to be a top secret spy, yet you couldn't talk to them.
OH. BY THE WAY. YOU CAN'T "TAKE OVER A SERVER" WITH SOME GODDAMN COMMANDS. SRSLY BRO, WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING.
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[QUOTE=huntskikbut;18576183]-huge wall of text-[/QUOTE]
I enjoy how you got people in vent to rate whore you with polite/friendlies. Nice touch.
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One more thing, banning people for the clan tags they where is almost as worst then banning everyone on a certain persons friends list. It's a stupid move, and you shouldn't do it. Just because some guy shots your mom, doesn't mean you should go shot him then everyone he knows.
[QUOTE=Soren;18629571]-Blaaahhhh blah, blah, flame, elitism, blah-
I enjoy how you got people in vent to rate whore you with polite/friendlies. Nice touch.
[/QUOTE]
He has two ratings. He didn't go in vent.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18628816]Hunts, you really should get a straight answer out of Black, I'm pretty sure he hasn't told you everything.
Here's the picture Cam gave me to post that Black actually paid him then chargebacked it.
[img_thumb]http://i50.tinypic.com/2qbxdns.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
That anonymous PayPal picture really proves that it's me! Great jerb.
I take that back, here's another thing. Not only is it bad to ban an entire clan, it's bad because what if someone happens to use DU as well? You'll loose maybe 50 customers.(Because at least 25% of them will donate to your server.) Don't go pointing out his post NOW that it's a troll clan, you didn't know that tell just now. Because I KNOW you're going to try pointing that out.
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[QUOTE=BlackFur;18629740]He has two ratings. He didn't go in vent.
By the way, that anonymous PayPal picture really proves that it's me! Great jerb.[/QUOTE]
Elitism? I never said I was elite at anything, nor was I trying to do it. Flaming is still flaming if you put it in the quotes and edit it.
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18629740]He has two ratings. He didn't go in vent.
By the way, that anonymous PayPal picture really proves that it's me! Great jerb.[/QUOTE]
Oh, here already?
I don't even care if I had proof of it or not, however that you came so quickly to deny this of happening seems a bit suspicious right?
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18629772]Oh, here already?
I don't even care if I had proof of it or not, however that you came so quickly to deny this of happening seems a bit suspicious right?[/QUOTE]
That is a very good point. Why would he want to prove it wrong so much if he didn't do it in the first place, he could of just told his community if they asked. Just do a Dave Brown and admit to it.
ITT: Soren seeks attention. Hunts never goes in vent, by the way.
Actually, I was pointed to this thread by several different people - but there you go again, assuming things.
I'll briefly respond to the statements related to me.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18628816]We where all banned for a valid reason, however everyone who was not part of our org was banned for a day and reset.[/quote]
What? I went through the database and reset accounts with ridiculous amounts of anything - I'm not out to get you or your skiddies.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18628816]Well, I sure as hell would trust what CaM says over Black or Stan says so I guess I'll talk to him about this.
[/quote]
Because Cam is the most trustworthy person on the planet, we all know.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18628816]You can't take out a weapon in PERP without 5 admins questioning if you typed out a /me, PERP has ridiculous amounts of rules and you can walk down the street and get banned these days now.[/QUOTE]
That is simply to keep people like you, who do not know how to roleplay, out. Honestly, there is not a rule on the rules list that was made just so admins could ban people for it - they are all made to promote roleplay in one way or another.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18628816]Hmm, I guess I mistook them for something else, people who tried to prove that Black removes things that make him or another of his friends look bad ended up banned anyways.[/QUOTE]
Why would I do anything like that? It would be fruitless to say I do not care what people think of me, or how they think I am, but in all honesty, I don't. If something that makes me look bad appears anywhere, I have no motivation to take it down unless it is slander.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18628816]I'm not sure if you realized this but BlackFur let Stan use the commands all he wanted, whenever knowledge of whatever he did went public Black would ban him, Stan talked to Black quite a lot and Black HAD to have had knowledge of this.[/QUOTE]
Alright, I really would like to know who is shedding all of this light on you, telling you ALL of these things I said to Stan. Can people hide in steam chats and watch? Really? You have absolutely NO idea what went on between Stan and I, so you make up stories that work well with yours and throw them in the gaps, like the paragraph above.
Sadistic, if you would accept the steam friends invite I sent you, if you'd like we may be able to discuss this there.
Is something wrong with your website? I'm curious but I can't register.
[QUOTE=Plasticnoob;18630205]Is something wrong with your website? I'm curious but I can't register.[/QUOTE]
We have our registration setup by joining one of our servers - they're all down at the moment, which leads us to the topic of this thread.
It's all controlled via Ingame. To register you need register Ingame, and obviously you can't register because the servers are currently down. Because of up coming perp2.
Also it's so people can't make spam account :)
Edit: Black you Ninja stealer... :(
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18630064]Actually, I was pointed to this thread by several different people - but there you go again, assuming things.
I'll briefly respond to the statements related to me.[/QUOTE]
Sure didn't take more than 5 minutes from when you where away to skip right to replying to the picture.
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18630064]What? I went through the database and reset accounts with ridiculous amounts of anything - I'm not out to get you or your skiddies.[/QUOTE]
Yet we where all permanently banned and all the people not in the org (3 other people) where just banned for a day as I have said 3 or 4 times now?
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18630064]Because Cam is the most trustworthy person on the planet, we all know.[/QUOTE]
Because you are the most trustworthy person on the planet as well right? You don't tell your admins what is going on and lie out of your teeth to your most loyal of players to make anyone you dislike their worst enemies.
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18630064]That is simply to keep people like you, who do not know how to roleplay, out. Honestly, there is not a rule on the rules list that was made just so admins could ban people for it - they are all made to promote roleplay in one way or another.[/QUOTE]
Because Lite RP is LITE RP, in the time I played I saw Lite become what Serious was when I started playing and Serious become a circle jerk of furries and people obsessed with PE.
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18630064]Why would I do anything like that? It would be fruitless to say I do not care what people think of me, or how they think I am, but in all honesty, I don't. If something that makes me look bad appears anywhere, I have no motivation to take it down unless it is slander.[/QUOTE]
Where did all of Killabeat's Admin Abuse reports go?, I remember at least 3 topics that disappeared which had negative comments about something in PE that where gone the next day and where 404'd.
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18630064]Alright, I really would like to know who is shedding all of this light on you, telling you ALL of these things I said to Stan. Can people hide in steam chats and watch? Really? You have absolutely NO idea what went on between Stan and I, so you make up stories that work well with yours and throw them in the gaps, like the paragraph above.[/QUOTE]
You knew what Stan did, does and will do. How is that made up?
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18630064]Sadistic, if you would accept the steam friends invite I sent you, if you'd like we may be able to discuss this there.[/QUOTE]
This thread doesn't go away, this just more proof for what has been said about you and PE in this thread.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]Sure didn't take more than 5 minutes from when you where away to skip right to replying to the picture.[/QUOTE]
I replied when (supposedly) I was brought up.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]Yet we were all permanently banned and all the people not in the org (3 other people) where just banned for a day as I have said 3 or 4 times now?[/QUOTE]
I permanently banned everyone I was absolutely sure had exploited. If you point me to the people I banned for a day, that would be great - I don't recall doing so.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]Because you are the most trustworthy person on the planet as well right? You don't tell your admins what is going on and lie out of your teeth to your most loyal of players to make anyone you dislike their worst enemies.[/QUOTE]
I never said I was the most trustworthy person on the planet. Continue making up stories like these, lieing out of my teeth to my most loyal of players, ( Example, please? ) honestly. Show some evidence to back up your slanderous claims against me.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]Because Lite RP is LITE RP, in the time I played I saw Lite become what Serious was when I started playing and Serious become a circle jerk of furries and people obsessed with PE.[/QUOTE]
Lite RP is LITE RP? That makes absolutely no sense. Lite RP is not a place where all rules are just thrown to the side, as you seem to think. The key feature being the letters 'R' and 'P' in the title. Simply because admins were less strict on that server does not mean all the rules did not apply.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]Serious become a circle jerk of furries and people obsessed with PE.[/QUOTE]
People obsessed with PE? How is that a bad thing? You stopped playing serious because you were banned too many times from it for failing to have some skill at roleplaying.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]Where did all of Killabeat's Admin Abuse reports go?, I remember at least 3 topics that disappeared which had negative comments about something in PE that where gone the next day and where 404'd.[/QUOTE]
I don't have any idea. While I was at work, apparently Killabeat was hacked and threads were made, etc. When I got home, I situated the mess, and attempted to calm things down.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]You knew what Stan did, does and will do. How is that made up?[/QUOTE]
You keep telling me exactly what I am saying to Stan, what Stan is saying to me, and so on. [i]That[/i] is the made up portion.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]This thread doesn't go away, this just more proof for what has been said about you and PE in this thread.[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to not spam the Facepunch forums with our petty debate, as this section has a purpose and its own set of rules I am pretty sure we aren't abiding by.
Please, unban me from the forum, Italian Racoon, I love PE, I just forum whore, im banned for 5 months, please I have changed.
[QUOTE=Plasticnoob;18630205]Is something wrong with your website? I'm curious but I can't register.[/QUOTE]
The only way to register with the website is to join one of our servers and create the account when prompted upon first joining. This way each and every account on our forums is linked to a steam ID so we may track any player necessary for administrative purposes. (AKA 90% of the time to ban a player for rule breaking or forum spamming and such)
Unfortunately our servers are currently down and you are going to have to wait for them to be brought back up around mid December.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973][editline]11:26PM[/editline]
Yet we where all permanently banned and all the people not in the org (3 other people) where just banned for a day as I have said 3 or 4 times now?[/QUOTE]
Anyone confirmed to be exploiting was permanently banned. Anyone who we had a strong suspicion about was temporarily banned until we could positively confirm or deny whether or not they were involved.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]Because you are the most trustworthy person on the planet as well right? You don't tell your admins what is going on and lie out of your teeth to your most loyal of players to make anyone you dislike their worst enemies.[/QUOTE]
The reason why he choose not to tell many of the admins and most certainly not the players was because we did not know who we could trust. We did trust the admins with some information and most all of it was leaked very quickly. Because of this, the circle of people who were kept informed was extremely small. It is not a matter of Black being dishonest, it is a matter of someone else being dishonest and leaking the information.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]Because Lite RP is LITE RP, in the time I played I saw Lite become what Serious was when I started playing and Serious become a circle jerk of furries and people obsessed with PE.[/QUOTE]
As Black said, Lite was becoming far too uncontrolled, even for its less enforiced RP. Players were constantly being RDM'd, cops were shooting people for no reason at all, org members would kill anyone that looked at them wrong or came too close to their property, etc. Enough was enough and I and I alone took the initiative to set things right. I personally started enforcing more rules and enforcing them more strictly until things came under control. As for serious, majority of the players that are on it are good RPers who have been with PE for a long time. They are dedicated to helping the community and being good players. If you define that as being obsessed, fine, but personally i would rather have these obsessed players rather than the chaos on Lite.
Also yah, many of the members are furries, but that in no way affects anyone's abilities to RP well. How would you be able to tell if someone was a furry just by RPing with them? You do not know who someone really is just by playing with them in a video game. Do not assume that just because SOME of the players are furries, all of them are. That is simply not true.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]Where did all of Killabeat's Admin Abuse reports go?, I remember at least 3 topics that disappeared which had negative comments about something in PE that where gone the next day and where 404'd.[/QUOTE]
At the time, we were unsure if it was actually killabeat or someone who jacked his account, that was causing all of the abuse. We had many strong signs pointing to both cases and a flood of abuse reports coming in all about the same situation. All except one was removed, and the one that was NOT removed was ACCEPTED and killabeat's admin was removed. Just because those reports were removed does NOT mean we were protecting him. If we were, dont you think he would still be admin and the last abuse report deleted as well?
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]You knew what Stan did, does and will do. How is that made up?[/QUOTE]
To put it simply, Stan had access to our box and numerous holes that we could not find. We tried to get him out but we simply were unable to. Instead of trying to fight him we wanted to make peace with in hopes that the community could continue to RP in peace. There is no big "conspiracy" that Black was allowing him to do this. If you think Black WAS allowing him to do it, ask yourself how that in any way would benefit his community by allowing unauthorized access to the box and allowing these exploits to be in it.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]This thread doesn't go away, this just more proof for what has been said about you and PE in this thread.[/QUOTE]
All he wants to do is try to make peace with you guys as well. Frankly we are all fed up with the endless arguing, hacking, and rumors being spread. We are an RPing community that simply wants to RP in peace. Thats it. We are not out to hurt anyone or cause mischief. We simply just want to play the game.
You guys make me laugh.
I like asking questions one at a time.
Where is the server hosted?
[QUOTE=LombaxPE;18633526]
As Black said, Lite was becoming far too uncontrolled, even for its less enforiced RP. Players were constantly being RDM'd, cops were shooting people for no reason at all, [B]org members would kill anyone that looked at them wrong or came too close to their property[/B], etc. Enough was enough and I and I alone took the initiative to set things right. I personally started enforcing more rules and enforcing them more strictly until things came under control. As for serious, majority of the players that are on it are good RPers who have been with PE for a long time. They are dedicated to helping the community and being good players. If you define that as being obsessed, fine, but personally i would rather have these obsessed players rather than the chaos on Lite.
[/QUOTE]
You talking about that one time with our org? I Still wonder why won't he leave, we are using legal weapons, legal talk, asking to leave nicely, then by force, we even SAID the mayor was here being guarded etc.
[QUOTE=Plasticnoob;18634916]I like asking questions one at a time.
Where is the server hosted?[/QUOTE]
Blackfur's basement.
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - Benji))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=lX X1L3D Xl;18635067]Blackfur's basement.[/QUOTE]
I mean where in the world lol..
[QUOTE=Plasticnoob;18635179]I mean where in the world lol..[/QUOTE]
It is hosted in New York, USA
[QUOTE=Aznsniper911;18635063]You talking about that one time with our org? I Still wonder why won't he leave, we are using legal weapons, legal talk, asking to leave nicely, then by force, we even SAID the mayor was here being guarded etc.[/QUOTE]
I was not singling out any org. Many have done shit like that and many believe by simply having a bit of firepower they can manipulate other players any way they want.
For the record though, if your guarding the mayor and someone refuses to leave, give them enough warnings and if they still refuse you can have a cop arrest them for trespassing. Shooting a civilian as a cop just because he is trespassing is in no way realistic or allowed in the server. (Also the person, depending on why they refuse to leave, is subject to a kick/short ban if they are not RPing and only there to annoy cops, the mayor, or other players just in general.)
[QUOTE=lX X1L3D Xl;18635067]Blackfur's basement.
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - Benji))[/highlight][/QUOTE]
How is that trolling, many people have servers in their basement. :3
Anyways, it's in the US it's hosted. The company is "Cross"somthing :P
[QUOTE=-The-Razor;18639013]How is that trolling, many people have servers in their basement. :3
Anyways, it's in the US it's hosted. The company is "Cross"somthing :P[/QUOTE]
As do I :P
And its hosted by ColoCrossing. I host my box from them. They are outstanding hosts :D
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18631860]I permanently banned everyone I was absolutely sure had exploited. If you point me to the people I banned for a day, that would be great - I don't recall doing so.[/QUOTE]
They quit PERP because they lost their cars and all their stuff.
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18631860]I never said I was the most trustworthy person on the planet. Continue making up stories like these, lieing out of my teeth to my most loyal of players, ( Example, please? ) honestly. Show some evidence to back up your slanderous claims against me.[/QUOTE]
It's not Malicious (Every attempt to get rid of Stan), SADISTIC HACKED PE AND TOOK GAMEMODES (Hurrrrrrrr), None of your normal admins knew about Stan and if they did they knew that The Exiled did whatever it was that happened and not Stan. There are lots of little things but those don't really matter as much as things that should be told the truth about.
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18631860]People obsessed with PE? How is that a bad thing? You stopped playing serious because you were banned too many times from it for failing to have some skill at roleplaying.[/QUOTE]
I was never banned from Serious, the last time I played there I was pulling someone over and the fag who was being pulled over hopped back into his car and backed up and slammed me into the wall, then ran over my buddy. In fact when I played there Lynx or Talas would have even backed up what I said that I RP'd well if on Serious. However, Serious is a shit hole of people who just grow weed and shrooms then circle jerk and be elitist and say how much Lite sucks when their server is just as bad.
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18631860]I don't have any idea. While I was at work, apparently Killabeat was hacked and threads were made, etc. When I got home, I situated the mess, and attempted to calm things down.[/QUOTE]
I meant his Admin Abuse reports not when he was hacked.
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18631860]You keep telling me exactly what I am saying to Stan, what Stan is saying to me, and so on. [i]That[/i] is the made up portion.[/QUOTE]
What... You knew that he sold the gamemodes, you knew he sold PERP cash and access to his commands. You knew he had full access, you knew what he did with it most of the time or wanted to. How the fuck is that made up?
[QUOTE=BlackFur;18631860]I'm trying to not spam the Facepunch forums with our petty debate, as this section has a purpose and its own set of rules I am pretty sure we aren't abiding by.[/QUOTE]
The thread has already been answered and the mods have came though and banned X1L3D for trolling, if we where breaking any rules we would have been banned too.
I cant wait to play again.
Too bad you got rebanned already.
[QUOTE=LombaxPE;18633526]Anyone confirmed to be exploiting was permanently banned. Anyone who we had a strong suspicion about was temporarily banned until we could positively confirm or deny whether or not they were involved.[/QUOTE]
Because the other 5 people totally didn't have all the cars and a couple million in cash.
[QUOTE=LombaxPE;18633526]The reason why he choose not to tell many of the admins and most certainly not the players was because we did not know who we could trust. We did trust the admins with some information and most all of it was leaked very quickly. Because of this, the circle of people who were kept informed was extremely small. It is not a matter of Black being dishonest, it is a matter of someone else being dishonest and leaking the information.[/QUOTE]
Because keeping secrets and blaming the problems on someone else isn't dishonest and immature.
[QUOTE=LombaxPE;18633526]As Black said, Lite was becoming far too uncontrolled, even for its less enforiced RP. Players were constantly being RDM'd, cops were shooting people for no reason at all, org members would kill anyone that looked at them wrong or came too close to their property, etc. Enough was enough and I and I alone took the initiative to set things right. I personally started enforcing more rules and enforcing them more strictly until things came under control. As for serious, majority of the players that are on it are good RPers who have been with PE for a long time. They are dedicated to helping the community and being good players. If you define that as being obsessed, fine, but personally i would rather have these obsessed players rather than the chaos on Lite.[/QUOTE]
Lite became popular because it was chaotic and fun, most people don't play RP servers to become HARRY D DUMBFUCK PRIVATE EYE FROM MIAMI FLORIDA WITH A BAD PAST AND A SECOND MURDERER PERSONALITY.
[QUOTE=LombaxPE;18633526]Also yah, many of the members are furries, but that in no way affects anyone's abilities to RP well. How would you be able to tell if someone was a furry just by RPing with them? You do not know who someone really is just by playing with them in a video game. Do not assume that just because SOME of the players are furries, all of them are. That is simply not true.[/QUOTE]
I never said that Serious was all furries, I said that furries and people obsessed with PE where basically the only people who played Serious.
[QUOTE=LombaxPE;18633526]At the time, we were unsure if it was actually killabeat or someone who jacked his account, that was causing all of the abuse. We had many strong signs pointing to both cases and a flood of abuse reports coming in all about the same situation. All except one was removed, and the one that was NOT removed was ACCEPTED and killabeat's admin was removed. Just because those reports were removed does NOT mean we were protecting him. If we were, dont you think he would still be admin and the last abuse report deleted as well?[/QUOTE]
All the admin abuse reports that had valid proof disappeared until that last one, all the retarded ones where just locked.
[QUOTE=LombaxPE;18633526]To put it simply, Stan had access to our box and numerous holes that we could not find. We tried to get him out but we simply were unable to. Instead of trying to fight him we wanted to make peace with in hopes that the community could continue to RP in peace. There is no big "conspiracy" that Black was allowing him to do this. If you think Black WAS allowing him to do it, ask yourself how that in any way would benefit his community by allowing unauthorized access to the box and allowing these exploits to be in it.[/QUOTE]
Black could have shut down the box and figured out a way to get rid of him earlier, I went over this with black on steam. Either way Black let him walk all over him just to keep the community from knowing that Stan did have access.
[QUOTE=LombaxPE;18633526]All he wants to do is try to make peace with you guys as well. Frankly we are all fed up with the endless arguing, hacking, and rumors being spread. We are an RPing community that simply wants to RP in peace. Thats it. We are not out to hurt anyone or cause mischief. We simply just want to play the game.[/QUOTE]
Roleplay is 100% Drama, 100% of the time. It always has been and always will be.
[QUOTE=larthemar;18650997]Too bad you got rebanned already.[/QUOTE]
Wanna bet.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18651201]Because the other 5 people totally didn't have all the cars and a couple million in cash.[/QUOTE]
There were many players who had abused the exploits and many more who had earned a lot of cash and items through honest gameplay. The process of picking out the blatant exploiters was very easy, that being you guys, but separating the ones who exploited, but not as much, from the honest players were the ones that took the time to figure out. We cannot just instantly tell who is innocent and who is guilty by a click of a button. It takes time to investigate, get answers, build up a plausible timeline, and get the stroies from all sides on the players involved.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18651201]Because keeping secrets and blaming the problems on someone else isn't dishonest and immature.[/QUOTE]
So keeping vital private information secret is dishonest and immature? Information that could very well jeopardize our plans and intents to fix the exploits and kick the hacker(s) out as well as other updates and general information that is highly classified that only admins should know.
You seem to be saying that we kept the knowledge that it was Stan who hacked our box a secret. This simply is not true. Many people knew it was him, however the blame was bounced across so many names it was hard to pinpoint exactly who was responsible. This is because he was not the only one who was responsible. Granted he was the one who caused all the initial damage, it was still the contributions of many other players, such as yourself, that added to the sheer chaos and mayhem of the PE server box being slowly torn apart. It is not any one person's fault. It is many.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18651201]Lite became popular because it was chaotic and fun, most people don't play RP servers to become HARRY D DUMBFUCK PRIVATE EYE FROM MIAMI FLORIDA WITH A BAD PAST AND A SECOND MURDERER PERSONALITY.[/QUOTE]
No, YOU dont play RP servers to RP. That is why you cannot see why the rules on our servers were actually enforced. I guarantee, if you go into 9 of 10 DarkRP servers, it will be admined by young kids who find it funny to abuse their powers cuz they like to shoot people or give themselves guns, rather than properly RP. THAT is the type of community we do not want to be and THAT is why we enforce our rules so strictly.
Reports would constantly flow in about RDMing in Lite, people breaking rules in lite, the mayor abusing his powers in lite, cops metagaming and killing for no reason in lite. You NEVER hear nearly as many complaints about that sort of shit happening in Serious. Almost every time help is called for over global, it is players asking for help in Lite, which eventually caused people to respond with "What do you expect? Its 'Lite' RP." Lite was popular among minges and rule breakers, not proper RPers or good players. Granted not all the players in lite were bad, but without a doubt majority of them were, which is why they chose to play there and not in Serious.
If you find it so wrong for an RP server to actually enforce its RPing rules, then that really just shows your aptness for when it comes to RPing properly.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18651201]I never said that Serious was all furries, I said that furries and people obsessed with PE where basically the only people who played Serious.[/QUOTE]
You said this....
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18630973]Because Lite RP is LITE RP, in the time I played I saw Lite become what Serious was when I started playing and Serious become a circle jerk of furries and people obsessed with PE.[/QUOTE]
...You are implying that everyone in serious is one of these two categories, and that there is nothing more to Serious RPers than that. The main point to my response was not that not everyone was a furry, my point was that you would not be able to tell who is and who is not simply by RPing with them. You are assuming that everyone is a furry, and thus you dislike them, or they are "obsessed" with PERP because they are good RPers, thus you do not like them either because you yourself are not a good RPer. You are implying your hatred for both furries and players who RP well into negative categories in order to seem like Serious is a bad place.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18651201]All the admin abuse reports that had valid proof disappeared until that last one, all the retarded ones where just locked.[/QUOTE]
Again, not true. All of the posts that were of the same topic about killabeat were either locked or deleted with the exception of one that was kept open for players to discuss about it. The reason why the others were deleted or locked was because they were just spam of the same subject. Thats it. Again i will point out, if we wanted to protect him from whatever abuse he did, why was one topic kept active? Why was it not deleted or locked like the others?
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18651201]Black could have shut down the box and figured out a way to get rid of him earlier, I went over this with black on steam. Either way Black let him walk all over him just to keep the community from knowing that Stan did have access.[/QUOTE]
Hunts and Black have shut down the box in the past and they have indeed tried numerous times to remove him. Each time they thought they were successful, a new door would open and stan would waltz right in and do as he pleased. We were not aware of exactly how he was able to access the box so easily nor how we could permanently remove him. They tried everything in their power to keep him out, but unfortunately were unsuccessful each time.
The reason why majority of the information was kept from the general public was because we did not want panic to ensue or arguments to uproar. If you want to say "Oh you just did not want to lose players" of course the answer to that is yes. What community WOULD want to lose their players? Stan did not pose an immediate threat to anyone's personal security, only to the actual gamemode, so there was no reason to cause unnecessary panic to the general public.
[QUOTE=slayer3032;18651201]Roleplay is 100% Drama, 100% of the time. It always has been and always will be.[/QUOTE]
Again, this is one example of why you were never any good at RPing. You only see RP as "drama" an nothing else. Your personal beliefs are blinding you from the actual potentials that an RP actually can be. Just because you may not like it does not mean that it is all drama. RP can be a very interesting way for people to interact with one another. Players can adapt a completely new personality and go about their virtual world meeting new people and having fun along the way.
Some people, and i would not doubt if you agree with them, say comments along the lines of "People should try getting out into the real world and interacting with real people, rather than just lieing about who they are in front of a computer screen." Although there are some truths to this, it is completely understandable for people to want to interact in this virtual way as it provides a much more friendly and socially sustainable personal experience. How often do you hear about kids being picked on? How often do you and your friends talk about others behind their backs? How often has it ever happened to you or one of your friends? The fact is, people in this age, especially our younger generation, have become so insensitively shallow when it comes to socializing with other kids, that many find it easier to just create this sort of imaginary personality where you can be whoever you chose to.
Growing up through your school years, you are subjected to the same group of kids for many many years. If you get on soemone's bad side for whatever reason, that person has a grudge that sticks with you, then all of their friends start to share that same grudge through gossip and rumors, then all of their friends follow suit. It is an uncontrollable social cycle that can and does cause a lot of torment and social instabilities in these kids minds as they grow up. These are the kids that bring dangerous things to schools like guns and knives and such. It is the ones who feel trapped and like they have no escape from their daily lives that end
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