InsurgencyRP - Need help from some pro roleplayers. - Garry's Mod

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I suggest you adapt to the new Insurgency swep pack, once its out of beta. [editline]10:39AM[/editline] And the setup should go more like such: Military Soldier - M16A4 Military Squad Leader - M4A1 w/scope or without (gets to choose) Military Medic - Has no weapons except his medic kit. Military General - Uses only IC information displayed from his military units. Military Engineer-M1014 Military Sniper-Sniper Rifle Insurgent - AK47/SKS Insurgent Leader - AK74U/L1A1 (Will be given jihad bomb if trusted) Insurgent Raider-Toz34(Insurgency Shotgun) Insurgent Scout-SVD/Lee Enfield All said weapons are going to be in Wizey!'s insurgency swep pack final.

[QUOTE=ababs362;17285003]I suggest you adapt to the new Insurgency swep pack, once its out of beta. [editline]10:39AM[/editline] And the setup should go more like such: Military Soldier - M16A4 [B]- Ironsighted, fair enough, 3 shot burst fire only?[/B] Military Squad Leader - M4A1 w/scope or without (gets to choose) [B]- Are we on about a zooming scope? Or a generic holographic sighted scope?[/B] Military Medic - Has no weapons except his medic kit. [B]- A weak SMG of some sort, not good having a Medic getting shot with no way of defending himself.[/B] Military General - Uses only IC information displayed from his military units. [B]- Fair enough, generals don't fight like the rest.[/B] Military Engineer-M1014 [B]- Mmmhmmm[/B] Military Sniper-Sniper Rifle [B]- Needs a choice really, a long range accurate one that cannot be silenced, and a close range urban one that can. Might never use one or the other though.[/B] Insurgent - AK47/SKS Insurgent Leader - AK74U/L1A1 (Will be given jihad bomb if trusted) Insurgent Raider-Toz34(Insurgency Shotgun) Insurgent Scout-SVD/Lee Enfield All said weapons are going to be in Wizey!'s insurgency swep pack final.[/QUOTE] I'd go more BF2 styled with the Military loadouts.

What do you mean bf2 style? I dont know bf2. And what do you feel about the insurgents? And the m16a4 has full auto function aswell. We could scrap the engineer and give the medic the m1014, and the military sniper has the M14DMR or a custom model awp. The m14 could have one time zoom and the awp 3. Also the m4a1 scoped is just a red dot look through, no zoom.

DO NOT PLAY ON THIS SERVER. It is full of 13 year old admins that abuse, they spawn themselves guns and helicopters... Also if you build a base they try to destroy it with a spam of bombs that create error spam. Don't play on this poor excuse for a RP server that is just a shitty Dark RP edit. I thought it was good judging by what people said in this thread, but I was wrong, it is a DM fest for minges. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("flaming" - Greeman))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Strawberri09;17287823]DO NOT PLAY ON THIS SERVER. It is full of 13 year old admins that abuse, they spawn themselves guns and helicopters... Also if you build a base they try to destroy it with a spam of bombs that create error spam. Don't play on this poor excuse for a RP server that is just a shitty Dark RP edit. I thought it was good judging by what people said in this thread, but I was wrong, it is a DM fest for minges.[/QUOTE] So true. 1: You're mad because I perma banned you for car dming like theres no tommorow. 2: You are building darkland forts, you can't shoot through them, an excuse for your insurgents to DM us. 3: You're the only one DMing, great job retard. Also, im lolling irl because some idiots telling me im a terrible server owner for disabling voice chat.

[QUOTE=Strawberri09;17287823]DO NOT PLAY ON THIS SERVER. It is full of 13 year old admins that abuse, they spawn themselves guns and helicopters... Also if you build a base they try to destroy it with a spam of bombs that create error spam. Don't play on this poor excuse for a RP server that is just a shitty Dark RP edit. I thought it was good judging by what people said in this thread, but I was wrong, it is a DM fest for minges.[/QUOTE] Lol, I am one of those 13 year old admins, And many peaple like me. Your just suckra butthurt because you got banned for car Dming, Random killing the whole server, crashing it multiple times, and being a complete flaming, faggitish, douchenozzle. Please learn to roleplay, It is a great server if you can RP correctly, Please dont listen to this 5 year old crying son of a bitch. Oh, And by the way, Please join some time. The reason we bomb the forts is because we go in as land units, while Sgt. Maxwell the owner is at Intel, And he commandeers us, We get wiped out, He bombards where we were killed. Makes so much sense. the man above me is a great owner and should be respected.

Class suggestion update Military Soldier - M16A4 Military Squad Leader - M4A1 w/scope or without (gets to choose) Military Medic - Medic Kit and M1014 Military General - Uses only IC information displayed from his military units. Military Squad Support Soldier-M249 Military Sniper-M14DMR/AWP Insurgent - AK47/SKS Insurgent Leader - AK74U/L1A1 (Will be given jihad bomb if trusted) Insurgent Raider-Toz34(Insurgency Shotgun)/RPK Insurgent Scout-SVD/Lee Enfield All said weapons except the AWP are going to be in Wizey!'s insurgency swep pack final.

Who the fuck are you talking about? You have me confused with another person because I am not banned.. Nor have I car DMed or Dmed at all

One question-Is this a cakescript mod? If so how long does it take to get a job? Thanks.

It's a mediocre Darkrp edit. I was kicked, for a valid reason, I was running around and whatnot but I asked multiple times for help etc. And then the admin left and then he told me to go to porter, who i asked for the rules to and he shot me. It's very confusing for newcomers and not really worth it especialyl on the skydive map that they're currently on. And where is insurgent job/how do you become one? It was just very disorganized.

[QUOTE=ababs362;17291594]It's a mediocre Darkrp edit. I was kicked, for a valid reason, I was running around and whatnot but I asked multiple times for help etc. And then the admin left and then he told me to go to porter, who i asked for the rules to and he shot me. It's very confusing for newcomers and not really worth it especialyl on the skydive map that they're currently on. And where is insurgent job/how do you become one? It was just very disorganized.[/QUOTE] We were training, I should of passworded, but I was busy.

Oh, you should have. [editline]05:11PM[/editline] Now it says im missing maps rp_cscdesertv2-1

[QUOTE=ababs362;17292227]Oh, you should have. [editline]05:11PM[/editline] Now it says im missing maps rp_cscdesertv2-1[/QUOTE] odd.. we're changing to rp_wuste because people are abusing the explosives on rp_cscdesert

Well ill try to reconnect then. [editline]05:14PM[/editline] I would like to see how this is when I am able to connect and your not training and shooting me when i ask for the rules.

[QUOTE=ababs362;17292389]Well ill try to reconnect then. [editline]05:14PM[/editline] I would like to see how this is when I am able to connect and your not training and shooting me when i ask for the rules.[/QUOTE] Fun, depending on what i'm doing, i've got most of my military units on, so i'll be RPing an insurgent, or a non combat class, like the General.

The server's issues: 1) The owner has a very distorted image of what insurgency is, what insurgents should do and how the military reacts to it 2) The massive overuse of bombs, that 95% of the time spam litterally hundreds of lua-errors. The other 5% are bombs that don't spam errors, but for some reason he can't be bothered using those and avoiding the others ones... 3) Friends of the owner (or headadmin whatever) can't do anything wrong. On a training he randomly shoots people with his deagle, on another training the day after he makes a lot of noise by exploding himself more than 20 times in a row by spamming jihad-bombs... The person in question doesn't get any penalty at all, and is an admin! When complaining about his behaviour he gets mad suggesting you will be kicked/banned if you continue to complain. 4) Just now, the server owner said he was bored. His solution to this? Bombing random locations, without any reason at all. 5) A friend of mine got banned (not perma) for argueing about how the rp should be. As pointed out, the owner has an unrealistic view on insurgency. Note: I might be confusing server owner with headadmin, if so my apologies but this is how your server is run Note2: This is not flaming, it are some facts combined with my opinion on it. Feel free to disagree.

[QUOTE=tom b;17293541]The server's issues: 1) The owner has a very distorted image of what insurgency is, what insurgents should do and how the military reacts to it [b] Explain? I know what insurgents should do, and I know pretty damn well that Car dming isn't one of them, and running up to US bases with ak's and 4-5 cars isn't another. Turning off our power secretly works, but pulling guns out of your asscrack when caught isn't. [/b] 2) The massive overuse of bombs, that 95% of the time spam litterally hundreds of lua-errors. The other 5% are bombs that don't spam errors, but for some reason he can't be bothered using those and avoiding the others ones... [b]I've been working on fixing this[/b] I'll try to cut down on using them. 3) Friends of the owner (or headadmin whatever) can't do anything wrong. On a training he randomly shoots people with his deagle, on another training the day after he makes a lot of noise by exploding himself more than 20 times in a row by spamming jihad-bombs... The person in question doesn't get any penalty at all, and is an admin! When complaining about his behaviour he gets mad suggesting you will be kicked/banned if you continue to complain. [B] He's been warned about this [/b] 4) Just now, the server owner said he was bored. His solution to this? Bombing random locations, without any reason at all. [b] Probably wasn't me, I haven't been on for around 45 minutes [/b] 5) A friend of mine got banned (not perma) for argueing about how the rp should be. As pointed out, the owner has an unrealistic view on insurgency. [b] He was making darkland forts, I told him that's not what Roleplaying is, and he wouldn't stop bothering me about how his fort was all "insurgent like".[/b] Note: I might be confusing server owner with headadmin, if so my apologies but this is how your server is run Note2: This is not flaming, it are some facts combined with my opinion on it. Feel free to disagree.[/QUOTE] In bold.

In my opinion, insurgency should be that there are 3 places. Citizen area like a town, citizens have their homes and there are stores. The other area is a military camp, the third area is a insurgent hideout. The insurgents gather weapons, plan attacks in their hideout. Military keep watch on the town and if the insurgents attack they retaliate/respond to eliminate the threat. Citizens carry on as normal. So the insurgents dont dm constantly, they can only come out of their hideout without any weapons, if they do and are seen then they can/will be attacked by military. Now a suggestion, if you got insurgency mod models than you could have it so that the military uses those player models insurgents etc and citizens use normal hl2 citizen models. A cool feature would be that insurgents can buy disguises to disguise themselves as citizens. This would be exclusive, like while disguised they can only have the jihad bomb and they have to be leaders to be able to buy a disguise.

both content pack mirriors are brooken

[QUOTE=ababs362;17294506]In my opinion, insurgency should be that there are 3 places. Citizen area like a town, citizens have their homes and there are stores. The other area is a military camp, the third area is a insurgent hideout. The insurgents gather weapons, plan attacks in their hideout. Military keep watch on the town and if the insurgents attack they retaliate/respond to eliminate the threat. Citizens carry on as normal. So the insurgents dont dm constantly, they can only come out of their hideout without any weapons, if they do and are seen then they can/will be attacked by military. Now a suggestion, if you got insurgency mod models than you could have it so that the military uses those player models insurgents etc and citizens use normal hl2 citizen models. A cool feature would be that insurgents can buy disguises to disguise themselves as citizens. This would be exclusive, like while disguised they can only have the jihad bomb and they have to be leaders to be able to buy a disguise.[/QUOTE] Problem is, they contantly go under ground and prop block every single place that MU's can get into. Second problem is, the theory of insurgency rp is, if you cant kill them with your pistol, car dm, if they are right next to your face, pull gun out of ass and shoot at face. The map has changed and it's much more easier for insurgents and military to roleplay, and draws a select few good roleplayers to the server. [editline]10:05PM[/editline] [QUOTE=oyotnas;17294557]both content pack mirriors are brooken[/QUOTE] [url]http://keygaming.dth-host.net/forums/index.php?action=forum[/url]

[QUOTE=RidingKeys;17296104]Problem is, they contantly go under ground and prop block every single place that MU's can get into. Second problem is, the theory of insurgency rp is, if you cant kill them with your pistol, car dm, if they are right next to your face, pull gun out of ass and shoot at face. The map has changed and it's much more easier for insurgents and military to roleplay, and draws a select few good roleplayers to the server.[/QUOTE] The solution to your prop problem is, remove the ability to spawn the things :eng101: It makes no sense that a Army and a group of Rebels can magically spawn whatever they need. You should be relying on the maps features and vehicle/ weapon packs really.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;17300221]The solution to your prop problem is, remove the ability to spawn the things :eng101: It makes no sense that a Army and a group of Rebels can magically spawn whatever they need. You should be relying on the maps features and vehicle/ weapon packs really.[/QUOTE] Then grant people who can actually roleplay the ability to prop spawn. Go solutions.

so basically it's a deathmatch except you all pretend to be soldiers from full metal jacket

[QUOTE=ababs362;17294506]In my opinion, insurgency should be that there are 3 places. Citizen area like a town, citizens have their homes and there are stores. The other area is a military camp, the third area is a insurgent hideout. The insurgents gather weapons, plan attacks in their hideout. Military keep watch on the town and if the insurgents attack they retaliate/respond to eliminate the threat. Citizens carry on as normal. So the insurgents dont dm constantly, they can only come out of their hideout without any weapons, if they do and are seen then they can/will be attacked by military. Now a suggestion, if you got insurgency mod models than you could have it so that the military uses those player models insurgents etc and citizens use normal hl2 citizen models. A cool feature would be that insurgents can buy disguises to disguise themselves as citizens. This would be exclusive, like while disguised they can only have the jihad bomb and they have to be leaders to be able to buy a disguise.[/QUOTE] This is pretty much how I see it too. By default, the military force moves in to secure locations and keep them under control. Insurgents pop up from nowhere (they know the area far better and look like citizens) and try to force the military to withdraw. Bombing is not very frequently an option, as it's nearly impossible to pinpoint a location where insurgents have a base. The military usually has a mobile base, with some key locations serving as actual base (where shipments and new troops can arrive). Insurgents DO attack both types of bases. [url]http://www.newser.com/story/68852/suicide-bomb-rocks-nato-base-at-kabul-airport.html[/url] [url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-07-14-afghan-attack_N.htm[/url] As for why I get annoyed by the server a lot is that people on it say it is serious, but in reality they can't sit down for a second without assaulting something. Okay, my last few minutes yesterday were pretty okay, but then I'd have to forget the lone marine coming deep into the insurgent's base (mine) spamming balloons around the place and owning a door, after which he refused to unown it until you (luckily) unowned it in his place. In my opinion, there should be put more work in making a nice base, creating an awesome environment for the active RP to happen in. Insurgents can fortify a town but it happens really really rarely: If you defend everything, you are defending nothing. And that's even so much more true for insurgents with limited resources and whose key advantage is that they look just like other citizens. Anyways, I'm really positive about the idea, I love it, think there's just a lot to work on and a serious admin team to build (can't stress enough how important this is). I hope it will all be awesome as the idea one day :-) Btw for content wickedness: [url]http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?tag=military[/url] The one called "military model pack" has nice support vehicles and non-tanks :p ;-) [editline]03:49AM[/editline] [QUOTE=RidingKeys;17300575]Then grant people who can actually roleplay the ability to prop spawn. Go solutions.[/QUOTE] No cause new people (wether they're good RPers or not) will only have one thing to do then. Kill more enemies...

[QUOTE=RidingKeys;17300575]Then grant people who can actually roleplay the ability to prop spawn. Go solutions.[/QUOTE] Exactly, respected players, admins, and anyone you can trust really could use the spawning ability, but new players and people who have a history of prop blocking can't. Win-win situation I guess.

Yeah just disable props for the spammers/newcomers. The new people then have to join Military or find insurgents and join them. That gets rid of that. And you should really switch to Wizey's sweps.

I didn't know his sweps we're out, i'll try searching garrysmod.org

Some dont work, like the FN FAL and M1014, otherwise they work well. Also try using insurgency models and player models. And browse through the map section on facepunch and fpsbanana for good maps.

Im sticking with the military model, the insurgency model for military forces is poorly done and poorly animated, i'll consider using the Insurgent model from insurgency though. [editline]08:49PM[/editline] Justifying my bans with the reason "Failure at life", or various other mingey bans, you've been told why your being banned in OOC, the reason just gives people something to laugh about.