[QUOTE=Terabit;19465138]That guy wasn't admin, but a regular player who is an actual good admin. I moderate my servers a lot. Making sure there running and players are having fun. I take suggestions and fix any problems.
Being a kind person help, moderating, fixing, upgrading help ensures your server is great.
Proof?
I took GJail with a 128 slot server in 4 days and made it more popular that more than 75 % of all garry's mod servers today. Proof?
[URL]http://www.game-monitor.com/garrysmod2_GameServer/69.162.106.138:27017/Havoc_Gamers__JailBreak__Recruiting.html[/URL]
Also I'll come play on this server see what it looks like and how it feels.[/QUOTE]
I'm just speaking from experience. I've run 9 servers for the last two, almost three years, and this has worked for me. Not charging somebody pocket change to admin your server(s).
[QUOTE=faze;19465228]I'm just speaking from experience. I've run 9 servers for the last two, almost three years, and this has worked for me. Not charging somebody pocket change to admin your server(s).[/QUOTE]
True. I think were derailing the thread.
[QUOTE=Terabit;19465369]True. I think were derailing the thread.[/QUOTE]
How do you see these posts as rerailment of the thread? They're all suggestions to make the server better.
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I would also suggest raising the price of admin. Maybe if you gave admin to a couple respectable players on your server to start and get your server going. I doubt you're going to get any good admins if it's $5.
I think I would join this right now. Coming to your server now!
50 USD or higher for admin, you will get too many bad administrators at 5$.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19487813]50 USD or higher for admin, you will get too many bad administrators at 5$.[/QUOTE]
This. But also recruit regular players and whatnot.
[QUOTE=faze;19487913]This. But also recruit regular players and whatnot.[/QUOTE]
Yep.
[QUOTE=chrismonster;19462249] :downswords:[/QUOTE]
Well I am simply stating that if you were a great roleplayer and would be the best admin in the world, you would still have to pay 5$? Kind of strange.
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Also who in god's name are you?
I don't think this is a "serious" roleplaying server, IMO. I always hate it when people are like "yeah we own super srs roleplay on darkrp, rp downtown", I don't think they understand true serious roleplaying and that it is always getting mistaked for other types of roleplaying. Very few DarkRP servers actually run serious roleplaying and I don't think this will be one of them. But eh, you never know, it could.
Schumacher is pretty much right in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;19491183]Schumacher is pretty much right in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm sure quite a few people can agree, but it's the majority of those DarkRP players that think it's serious roleplay disagree, it's not their fault, they just don't know.
I said realistic RP, not "walk around really slow and type" RP.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19491146]I don't think this is a "serious" roleplaying server, IMO. I always hate it when people are like "yeah we own super srs roleplay on darkrp, rp downtown", I don't think they understand true serious roleplaying and that it is always getting mistaked for other types of roleplaying. Very few DarkRP servers actually run serious roleplaying and I don't think this will be one of them. But eh, you never know, it could.[/QUOTE]
"understand true serious roleplaying"?
I don't think you understand "true serious roleplaying".
Just because there's predefined roles doesn't mean something isn't "true serious roleplaying".
"true serious roleplaying" is when people stay in character and embrace the personality of their character arch-type; Irrelevant as to whether or not they created the arch-type.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;19491005]Well I am simply stating that if you were a great roleplayer and would be the best admin in the world, you would still have to pay 5$? Kind of strange.
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Also who in god's name are you?[/QUOTE]
I am me.
EDIT: Oh you meant in relation to this? I'm co-founder.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;19491183]Schumacher is pretty much right in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Well, your opinion is noted; and personally I disagree.
[QUOTE=Beaverbeliever;19514803]I said realistic RP, not "walk around really slow and type" RP.[/QUOTE]
That's called serious roleplay, character development and passive roleplaying. It's not realistic to walk at super man speeds and never get tired. In real life you get tired after a period of running time, you talk often. That's what you do in real life, that's what you do in a real-life role play. In real life, not every single person knows how to shoot a gun, in real life not every single person has no fears and has been arrested 596749 times, in real life not every single person can run FOREVER without getting tired. Shit, if serious roleplay servers wanted to be as serious as it gets, they would have it delete that particular character on death, but instead we all figure, hey, this could make people whine, lets make up a rule called NLR, you forget everything that happened before death but you keep your attributes and items etc. In DarkRP, you are a fucking cat, die 9 times, the final death you rage the server. That's just how it is. When you were demoing my gamemode, you said it's stupid how you have to walk so slow and keep running out of stamina and lose stuff when you die, Well, it's a thing called Realism. In which most cases, SERIOUS roleplay inherits. DarkRP doesn't, therefore it's not a SERIOUS roleplay gamemode. This doesn't mean the gameplay has to be unserious, but the features of the script makes the //SCRIPT// not serious. You can roleplay out stamina, you can roleplay out getting tired, you can roleplay out alot of things, but in the end the majority of people will either not follow the rules realistically or properly, or just ignore them completely causing various issues. Basically, it's easier to just make the script realistic. So when you say "I said realistic RP, not walk around really slow and type RP.", you just make yourself look stupid. This is what I was discussing earlier, you guys who play "Serious" DarkRP, think that's true serious roleplaying, it's not, but you are persistent because you don't know true serious roleplaying, so you are determined to think you are right. It happens all the time and it pisses me off. This could be opinion, this could be fact, I don't care. The point is that In my own opinion, you're stupid.
Also to the post above me, predefined roles? Most good servers don't have these. They let the character/player roleplay them out by gathering items. You see all these DarkRP servers with the class "Bum" or "Hobo" (Hobo doesn't make sense because a Hobo hitchhikes on trains.. ), Why the hell do you need the class when you can roleplay out being a hobo?
FearRP.
PowerGaming.
Metagaming.
Out-of-character.
Some sort of New life rule.
In-character.
Lots of passive roleplaying.
Those are all additions most, if not all, serious roleplaying servers inherit.
It really sucks. There's some guy playing as a gun dealer just propkilling people. And no one is rping, just building stuff.
[QUOTE=optimusguy;19517130]It really sucks. There's some guy playing as a gun dealer just propkilling people. And no one is rping, just building stuff.[/QUOTE]
I knew this would happen. I told them it would.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19517921]I knew this would happen. I told them it would.[/QUOTE]
You tried to sell me an unfinished, buggy, horrible ripoff of a game mode you made from Taco Script so you could buy for your air soft gun. I really don't care what you are trying to tell me anymore.
[QUOTE=optimusguy;19517130]It really sucks. There's some guy playing as a gun dealer just propkilling people. And no one is rping, just building stuff.[/QUOTE]
Wow. I assume you're that one guy who got punted with a gunlab ONE TIME.
If you were more attentive, you would have noticed I punished the propkiller.
Also punting isn't on anymore.
Moreover, the rp is kind of minimal until there's enough players on to get it going (8~?). There was few players on when you came on.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19515679][QUOTE=Beaverbeliever;19514803]I said realistic RP, not "walk around really slow and type" RP.[/QUOTE]
That's called serious roleplay, character development and passive roleplaying. [/QUOTE]
"serious roleplay" isn't a category. "serious roleplay" means "role-playing seriously".
[QUOTE=schumacher;19515679]It's not realistic to walk at super man speeds and never get tired. In real life you get tired after a period of running time, you talk often. That's what you do in real life, that's what you do in a real-life role play. In real life, not every single person knows how to shoot a gun, in real life not every single person has no fears and has been arrested 596749 times, in real life not every single person can run FOREVER without getting tired. Shit, if serious roleplay servers wanted to be as serious as it gets, they would have it delete that particular character on death, but instead we all figure, hey, this could make people whine, lets make up a rule called NLR, you forget everything that happened before death but you keep your attributes and items etc. In DarkRP, you are a fucking cat, die 9 times, the final death you rage the server. That's just how it is.[/QUOTE]
Movement speed is irrelevant. 'serious' and 'realistic' are two far far different things.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19515679]When you were demoing my gamemode, you said it's stupid how you have to walk so slow and keep running out of stamina and lose stuff when you die, Well, it's a thing called Realism. [/QUOTE]
It's NOT realism. I personally -walk- about twice as fast as that and don't break any sweat.
More importantly it was buggy and idiotically laid out.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19515679]
In which most cases, SERIOUS roleplay inherits. DarkRP doesn't, therefore it's not a SERIOUS roleplay gamemode. This doesn't mean the gameplay has to be unserious, but the features of the script makes the //SCRIPT// not serious. You can roleplay out stamina, you can roleplay out getting tired, you can roleplay out alot of things, but in the end the majority of people will either not follow the rules realistically or properly, or just ignore them completely causing various issues. Basically, it's easier to just make the script realistic. [/QUOTE]
See the first reply about 'serious' roleplay.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19515679]So when you say "I said realistic RP, not walk around really slow and type RP.", you just make yourself look stupid.[/QUOTE]
There's not much you say that doesn't.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19515679] This is what I was discussing earlier, you guys who play "Serious" DarkRP, think that's true serious roleplaying, it's not, but you are persistent because you don't know true serious roleplaying, so you are determined to think you are right. [/QUOTE]
See first reply about 'serious' roleplay.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19515679]It happens all the time and it pisses me off. This could be opinion, this could be fact, I don't care. The point is that In my own opinion, you're stupid.[/QUOTE]
It is opinion, and your opinion has been noted. I don't care. You're an idiot. Go baww to your mommy.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19515679]Also to the post above me, predefined roles? Most good servers don't have these. They let the character/player roleplay them out by gathering items. [/QUOTE]
Predefined roles or not does not classify a 'good server'.
The quality of the players and administrators does.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19515679]You see all these DarkRP servers with the class "Bum" or "Hobo" (Hobo doesn't make sense because a Hobo hitchhikes on trains.. ), Why the hell do you need the class when you can roleplay out being a hobo?[/QUOTE]
So you can get bugbait, obviously. As well as earn no money. And look like a corpse.
[QUOTE=schumacher;19515679]
FearRP.
PowerGaming.
Metagaming.
Out-of-character.
Some sort of New life rule.
In-character.
Lots of passive roleplaying.
Those are all additions most, if not all, serious roleplaying servers inherit.[/QUOTE]
...What?
This isn't serious roleplay.
Main reason - no-one roleplays, you think roleplay matters depending on the way your character looks as a model and what weapons and money you get, that's called gameplay, not roleplay.
"Serious Roleplay" doesn't mean "Serious Roleplay" anymore in Garry's Mod, the word has been abused so much it's like McDonalds calling their food fresh
[QUOTE=Kamern;19548229]This isn't serious roleplay.
Main reason - no-one roleplays, you think roleplay matters depending on the way your character looks as a model and what weapons and money you get, that's called gameplay, not roleplay.
"Serious Roleplay" doesn't mean "Serious Roleplay" anymore in Garry's Mod, the word has been abused so much it's like McDonalds calling their food fresh[/QUOTE]
It IS serious roleplay. What it is NOT is Passive roleplay.
[QUOTE=chrismonster;19556953]It IS serious roleplay. What it is NOT is Passive roleplay.[/QUOTE]
Tell me this. Does anyone use /me? Does anyone try and develop a character? Do people respond to reasonable violent RP in a reasonable way? Or just ignore the NLR and RDM 50 times? Also, I know plenty of serious RP servers, which in non-passive RPing, still abide by the above, basic definitions of serious Role Playing.
[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;19557222]Tell me this. Does anyone use /me?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;19557222]Does anyone try and develop a character? [/QUOTE]
Yes.
[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;19557222]Do people respond to reasonable violent RP in a reasonable way? [/QUOTE]
I generally do =/\. It's entertaining.
[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;19557222]Or just ignore the NLR and RDM 50 times?[/QUOTE]
No. RDM = warning then kick. NLR = warning then kick.
[QUOTE=Mort and Charon;19557222] Also, I know plenty of serious RP servers, which in non-passive RPing, still abide by the above, basic definitions of serious Role Playing.[/QUOTE]
Ours is one. This is exactly what I have been saying.
This is a serious RP server.
This is not a passive rp server.
The definition of passive/non-passive I'm going with is undefined roles / defined roles.
Like a character without classes but with skills, or a character with a preset job description.
(That isn't to say that /job is disabled or anything.)
I BELIEVE passive roleplay, is basically , well, passive. You talk to people, you run a store. Non Passive roleplay I BELIEVE, is drug busts,murder, etc.
[QUOTE=chuck14;19558573]I BELIEVE passive roleplay, is basically , well, passive. You talk to people, you run a store. Non Passive roleplay I BELIEVE, is drug busts,murder, etc.[/QUOTE]
Not really, no.. but at the same time, sort of. What I should have said was:
Passive roleplay: Without real action; mainly just talk/imagination..?
Active roleplay: Centered around real action; not as talkative but not without.
That's not to say active can't/doesn't have a lot of talking; but it's more centered around determining what the next action will end up being for active; and passive is more doing the action via talking rather than actual actions.
This ties in with what I said in my last post, in that active generally has predefined roles, whereas passive roles are generally envisioned rather than set in stone somewhat.
Yeah. That about sums it up.
[QUOTE=chrismonster;19557817]Yes.
Yes.
I generally do =/\. It's entertaining.
No. RDM = warning then kick. NLR = warning then kick.
Ours is one. This is exactly what I have been saying.
This is a serious RP server.
This is not a passive rp server.
The definition of passive/non-passive I'm going with is undefined roles / defined roles.
Like a character without classes but with skills, or a character with a preset job description.
(That isn't to say that /job is disabled or anything.)[/QUOTE]
Well replied, I may check out your server if I get chance, And I do think that DarkRP does have the potential to be great, if it is stripped to the bone, citizens have a purpose and if criminals really fear authority and work underground.
You use DarkRP.
You sell admin for $5 because you cannot afford to pay for the server (nice business plan).
You are a real life roleplay server on City 45.
What, if any, logical thought went into making your server?
[QUOTE=Toxilium;19593543]You use DarkRP.
You sell admin for $5 because you cannot afford to pay for the server (nice business plan).
You are a real life roleplay server on City 45.
What, if any, logical thought went into making your server?[/QUOTE]
For now.
? Yes we can. Some help is nice though.
As stated previously, a custom map is in the works.
How is the map coming on? If you need any help, or maybe want another map completely, I could help out. I'm pretty new to mapping so it won't be a masterpiece, but I'm all right at designing. What size and style map are you looking for?
Were looking for large, like all the City maps, but a lot mroe usable and accessible. We are looking at more stores, more built in gunshops, and a much better Nexus. It will have 4 quadrants (possibly), 2 would be city, 1 would be more residential, and the other would be more like a forest/park. There's a lot more to the map, but that's just a brief demographic summary.
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