[QUOTE=Shepsie;22935789]Why would someone fake a whole 277 line long steam chat.[/QUOTE]
They wouldn't. Conna (I'm calling you this because I don't like your stupid anime shit names) has done stupid shit in the past, including spreading gmod virusses. You can't deny it when it came from your server only.
[QUOTE=Legend286;22936537]They wouldn't. Conna (I'm calling you this because I don't like your stupid anime shit names) has done stupid shit in the past, including spreading gmod virusses. You can't deny it when it came from your server only.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=655331[/url]
[quote="2008"]
Conna is an asshole.
He stole [BB]'s code and then claimed it was his own. Then committed a DDoS attack on [BB].
[/quote]
[QUOTE=Kamern;22936854][url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=655331[/url][/QUOTE]
You're proving my point by spreading the lies and slander that people have posted in the fast, it was infact later proven that no code from [BB] was stolen when I released Cider. It was then further proven that somebody else attacked [BB]. Please only reference true articles.
Secondly, my names have nothing to do with anime or Japan; if you think so, then you're stereotyping.
[QUOTE=legitimatetroll;22937264]You're proving my point by spreading the lies and slander that people have posted in the fast, it was infact later proven that no code from [BB] was stolen when I released Cider. It was then further proven that somebody else attacked [BB]. Please only reference true articles.
Secondly, my names have nothing to do with anime or Japan; if you think so, then you're stereotyping.[/QUOTE]
Choosing the bits you like, are you? Very mature.
Heads up, kurameka, the only reason people attempted to take down your site, forum, released your account details, tried to hack the emails of several of your members, and leaked your scripts is because
well.
because you're a bit of a smug prick. and no one likes you. and because you wear a hood on and smoke cigarettes in door.
remember when you hijacked Reaver's account and started talking to me on it
[code] Never tell your password to anyone.
Thursday, October 08, 2009
4:16 AM - The Ruskie: hey
4:16 AM - The Ruskie: did your account get hacked.
4:16 AM - Reaver: hey what happened
4:16 AM - Reaver: yeah
4:16 AM - Reaver: D:
4:16 AM - Reaver: hi rick it's kuro
4:16 AM - Reaver: <3
4:16 AM - The Ruskie: o
4:16 AM - Reaver: reaver cant keep mouth shut :(
4:16 AM - Reaver: naughty reaver :D
4:16 AM - Reaver: atleast you talk to me now
4:16 AM - The Ruskie: someone's being internet tough guy lol.
4:16 AM - Reaver: hey im no internet tough guy
4:16 AM - Reaver: D:
4:16 AM - Reaver: im a big softie <3
4:16 AM - Reaver hugs rick
4:17 AM - The Ruskie: you fit the description of one tho.
4:17 AM - Reaver: o
4:17 AM - Reaver: well then you better press f2
4:17 AM - Reaver: and RECOGNISE ME
4:17 AM - The Ruskie: it's not f2 lmao
4:17 AM - Reaver: w/e
4:17 AM - Reaver: give a fuck lol
4:17 AM - The Ruskie: idiot
4:17 AM - Reaver: rick:(
4:17 AM - Reaver: why does you hate me
4:17 AM - The Ruskie: because you white
4:17 AM - Reaver: i want to be friendsssssssss
4:17 AM - Reaver: orite
4:17 AM - The Ruskie: and ur a bad scripter xd
4:17 AM - Reaver: i suppose your gonna let me finish...
4:18 AM - Reaver: im a bad scripter lol
4:18 AM - Reaver: rick this rivalry
4:18 AM - Reaver: is silly :(
4:18 AM - The Ruskie: this is no rivalry
4:18 AM - The Ruskie: this be a victory for me xd
4:18 AM - Reaver: lol.
4:18 AM - Reaver: Rick, neither of us will ever win.
4:18 AM - Reaver: We're both as good as eachother. This ego shit is nonsense.
4:18 AM - The Ruskie: Nah
4:18 AM - The Ruskie: I'm better than you
4:18 AM - Reaver: We've clearly always been the best in GMod scripting.
4:18 AM - The Ruskie: You just manage to improve my level
4:18 AM - Reaver: Well, if you want to play it like that.
4:19 AM - The Ruskie: well it's true.
4:19 AM - The Ruskie: most of your shit I came up with lol
4:19 AM - Reaver: I've been coding Lua since before GMod.
4:19 AM - The Ruskie: I've been coding c++ before gmod.
4:19 AM - Reaver: Why do we argue about such a shitty language.
4:19 AM - Reaver: Exactly.
4:19 AM - Reaver: Why can't we argue about that
4:19 AM - Reaver: :P
4:19 AM - The Ruskie: this is for my own humor
4:19 AM - The Ruskie: i dont do it for competition mainly
4:19 AM - Reaver: Ultimatly; for some reason we argue about GMod, of all things.
4:20 AM - Reaver: I found this rivalry funny at first. But RIck, you are not better than me :)
4:20 AM - Reaver: I mean your code... is so messy
4:20 AM - Reaver: Maybe if you coded modularly...
4:20 AM - The Ruskie: i've seen your code, you dont space openly, you cram blocks of code together, and you have a confusing naming system
4:20 AM - Reaver: A confusing naming system?
4:21 AM - Reaver: The problem with me is that i use TOO many spaces.
4:21 AM - The Ruskie: lol no
4:21 AM - The Ruskie: you are wrong
4:21 AM - The Ruskie: you see
4:21 AM - Reaver: http://pastebin.com/m2a2585ac
4:22 AM - Reaver: nothing is wrong with that
4:23 AM - The Ruskie: http://pastebin.com/d72bd356a
4:23 AM - Reaver: eww :P
4:23 AM - The Ruskie: its pretty pro actually
4:23 AM - Reaver: nah
4:24 AM - The Ruskie: i believe your tastes are more amateur :)
4:24 AM - Reaver: dats ugly bro
4:24 AM - Reaver: hmm, i would disagree, on the contrary, my tastes are superior to yours
4:24 AM - The Ruskie: have you ever looked at the source engine
4:24 AM - Reaver: of course.
4:24 AM - Reaver: i made my own source mod
4:24 AM - The Ruskie: no you didnt
4:24 AM - Reaver: yes i did.
4:24 AM - The Ruskie: no you didnt you fuckface.
4:25 AM - Reaver: yeah i did
4:25 AM - The Ruskie: haha
4:25 AM - The Ruskie: youre an idiot.
4:25 AM - Reaver: no u
4:25 AM - The Ruskie: you realize
4:25 AM - The Ruskie: im better tahn you.
4:25 AM - Reaver: nah
4:25 AM - The Ruskie: kuroscript is an improved tacoscript.
4:26 AM - The Ruskie: honestly, the gui and vgui are amateur
4:26 AM - The Ruskie: it's a derma rape.
4:26 AM - The Ruskie: that reminds me of TS1.
4:26 AM - Reaver: i'm not a designer, i make games; not pretty interfaces.
4:26 AM - Reaver: but none the less
4:26 AM - Reaver: the derma/gui, is put together quite well.
4:26 AM - The Ruskie: Style is half the gamemode.
4:26 AM - Reaver: Indeed.
4:27 AM - Reaver: When it comes to style, your half is better; but when it comes to coding, functionality and modularity; I am superior.
4:27 AM - The Ruskie: Nay.
4:27 AM - Reaver: Yay.
4:27 AM - The Ruskie: I disagree with that, mcman.
4:27 AM - Reaver: I bet Epidemic isn't modular in any way.
4:27 AM - Reaver: Just code scrapped together.
4:27 AM - The Ruskie: It isnt. lol.
4:27 AM - The Ruskie: It wasnt intended to be.
4:28 AM - The Ruskie: I did make a modular gamemode last mont though.
4:28 AM - Reaver: Where as kuroScript can be adapted into anything.
4:28 AM - The Ruskie: want to see?
4:28 AM - Reaver: Sure.
4:28 AM - Reaver: I just think your ego is too big.
4:28 AM - Reaver: You are /very/ much like Kanye West; perhaps that is why you hint to him often.
4:28 AM - The Ruskie: are you
4:28 AM - The Ruskie: fucking stupid
4:28 AM - The Ruskie: my ego is NON EXISTANT.
4:28 AM - Reaver: nah
4:29 AM - Reaver: it exists
4:29 AM - Reaver: its like boom its there
4:29 AM - The Ruskie: you actually think the shit I do on the internet is to feed my own e ego
4:29 AM - The Ruskie: I fuck with you guys by acting like an elitist douche
4:29 AM - The Ruskie: THIS IS OLD NEWS.
4:29 AM - Reaver: a screenshot of kuroScript's upcoming MMO Kyron's GUI, http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6180/80291772.jpg, nothing special yet I havent worked on it for too long.
4:29 AM - Reaver: But the point is, what you've seen isn't kuroScript
4:30 AM - Reaver: It's my lazyness
4:30 AM - The Ruskie: does it matter to me.
4:30 AM - Reaver: kuroScript can be adapted in any stylish way
4:30 AM - The Ruskie: protip:
4:30 AM - The Ruskie: I could do it, I just havent tried!
4:30 AM - The Ruskie: honestly.
4:30 AM - Reaver: i could make a kuroScript replica of Epidemic's interface in a mere couple of days
4:30 AM - The Ruskie: why do you raise your self to such a level
4:30 AM - The Ruskie: of
4:30 AM - Reaver: baring in mind my job, irl, etc.
4:30 AM - The Ruskie: ego
4:30 AM - Reaver: it is you with the ego my friend.
4:31 AM - Reaver: you and your 'competitions' which i simply ignore.
4:31 AM - Reaver: your constant trolling against me, my community, etc.
4:31 AM - The Ruskie: there is no competition LOL
4:31 AM - The Ruskie: this didnt start until someone said you began copying shit
4:31 AM - Reaver: Which will always happen.
4:31 AM - Reaver: Because Necropolis community is full of people who think they are the best.
4:31 AM - Reaver: They get that impression from you.
4:31 AM - The Ruskie: u kidding me
4:32 AM - Reaver: You know that use context shit came from CakeScript first.
4:32 AM - The Ruskie: most of the people dont care or are dumb.
4:32 AM - The Ruskie: you think I play gmod rp?
4:32 AM - The Ruskie: i never played that cakescript shit lol
4:32 AM - Reaver: You copied it as much as I copied it, as much as the person to make the second cell phone copied the person to make the first.
4:32 AM - The Ruskie: the difference between you and I is
4:32 AM - The Ruskie: You knew there was a context menu in CSD
4:32 AM - The Ruskie: I didnt.
4:32 AM - Reaver: I didn't know
4:33 AM - Reaver: Until someone on my forums said it.
4:33 AM - Reaver: ;)
4:33 AM - Reaver: I didn't even know it was in Epidemic.
4:33 AM - Reaver: It just seemed like a good thing to do.
4:33 AM - The Ruskie: but
4:33 AM - Reaver: When I was bored ^_^
4:33 AM -
Stop lying Kuro, they have proof of what you have done.
Not to mention in the past you DDOS'ed TacoNBanana, and you even posted in their forums saying you did it because people from their trolled your server.
Also nulled IPboard? That can get you sued.
Conna, you claim that you have never abused your exploits. Your friends could claim the same but that's not the point. First of all the fact that you have never done it before (which might or might not be true) doesn't mean you won't do it in the future. Of all people you should know people on the internet can [b]not[/b] be trusted.
And even if you are a trustworthy person, you are still given too much powers over the servers that run your scripts.
For me this is not about whether you're a good person or not, I hold no personal grudge against you so that's none of my business. My problem is the exploits in your scripts. They give you too much power and the [b]ability[/b] to abuse those powers. I'm [b]not[/b] saying you would abuse it, I'm saying you [b]can[/b].
Let us take the same situation to have a Lua scripter who [b]is[/b] malicious. Let's name him Bob. Bob makes gamemodes and sells them. He has put exploits in his scripts. When people ask him about the exploits he says they are for leak prevention. But in reality Bob is malicious and he actually uses the exploits to do malicious things without the server owners knowing about it. The server owners think Bob has done nothing wrong, Bob's friends know of nothing because Bob didn't tell them. Bob could tell the exact same story on this thread as Conna can.
I am [b]not[/b] accusing Conna of abusing his exploits, I'm just saying that Conna has the [b]ability[/b] to be malicious with or without other people knowing. I'm saying no one should have these abilities, not Conna, not me and not even Garry.
I don't know anything about Conna's viruses or attacks or whatever, so I'm not going to accuse him of that, I just think it's wrong to have exploits in scripts and or programs, it's just not the way to do it.
Let's keep this thread mature and stop calling one another names.
I'm totally agreeing with FPtje.
Does anyone know how to run this on localhost? Kinda detracting from the situation at hand but it's necessary for testing purposes....
Google provided me with the SteamID of the person using that IP. I'm not taking sides here, just making the information available to those who want it.
STEAM_0:1:8387555
[url]http://bans.wdgaming.net/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=86.30.131.228&Submit=[/url]
You hack people because they are using your leaked and pirated scripts, and your pirated IPBoard gets hacked. lol.
[QUOTE=legitimatetroll;22924807]As far as I'm concerned my reputation is very good, the only people that seem to give me a bad reputation is those on Facepunch - but even then that is down to personal grudges and such. Most people outside of the little group Facepunch respect me, so it's most unusual.
Secondly, I have each IP of each customer so I do checks before doing what you are suggesting. There is no real 'better' anti-leaking method, and you talk about trust, but I obviously cannot trust certain people because the schemas have ended up being leaked. That is why I implemented these things, believe me, I tried it based on trust first and it just didn't work.
The method I'm using [i]isn't[/i] wrong, I should have just remembered to take out the backdoors in the publically released version - which I have admmitted is my bad and apologised for. But the method itself is [i]not wrong[/i]. There is nothing wrong with using this method for anti-leaking at all, it is common knowledge that using a leak will result in something like this; so you should know that before leaking or using a leak.
A customers server would never be taken down, it's like providing webhosting; you paid for a service and your website could be taken down at any time if the host wanted to, but they don't unless you break the terms which they have told you.
Another thing about the 'setting your name to Console' exploit, that was quite obviously just a bug. And it's logical to why that bug would work, if you understand it, which is why when I found out about it I did actually release a new ServerSecure update - so I say again, please stop holding grudges or bringing up things in the past.
Incase you haven't noticed by now, one trait of mine is that I [i]don't hold grudges[/i], which is ironic considering many of the people who hate me do. Never have I once been nasty, or disrespect anyone because of some kind of 'grudge', unless you can show me an example where I did.
Facepunch has given me a bad reputation over something they don't understand, if you recall originally way back when, the only reason I got banned was for [i]retaliating[/i]; not for actually starting any arguments. And that's why Facepunch holds a grudge against me/gives me a bad reputation, because people don't understand the reason for ban, or didn't pay actual attention to the events that occured.
When I notice a leaked server, my first reaction isn't to just "go and take it down without a care in the world"; I take the time to consult the owner and have a talk with them. Yet another false accusation against me.
Thank you for reading, and yet again I hope I have cleared some things up. If you actually take the time to talk to me personally, and ignore false accusations and slander that are thrown around by those holding grudges; you might actually find I'm not as bad as people make out.[/QUOTE]
Easy and simple solution for all your problems: [highlight]Don't fucking sell Lua scripts[/highlight]
You can't prevent lua code from being leaked, and I am really sorry for those dumbfags who actually gave you 300 bucks (for free...).
Ugh, this is quite interesting, I'll put in my two cents:
Freely available code with no license is hard to differentiate what to do with, but for god's sake, even Exsto distributes modules with it's SVN, so you can't use that excuse, really.
Second, Lua scripts are like source code without a compiler, stop going nuts over it - if you could compile Lua, you'd respond differently. In the end, it's a modification to a game in a programming language, which is perfectly licensable. If I made a logo of a company in Gmod using props, the logo's not property of Garry or VALVe, the design of the game and related content is. If I make something with art pastels, the art isn't property of the pastel maker.
If you don't like Kuro's business model, don't buy it. I may be a huge amount late here, but I arrived in this scene after Conna was originally banned, yet the tools pack [b]was[/b] unique for it's time, and Nexus still amazes me. If you're still doubting it, go try a server running a schema - it's cinematic, artistic, and beautiful. To a certain extent, he deserves credit - he's done something nobody else has done before.
Lastly, CombineGuru/Seth sells aimbots, yet nobody goes after him? I don't give a shit, I have a donation system for my server, and people are fully aware about what they're getting when they donate. In a way, Garry's Mod is a platform that you can develop on, all your arguments over selling Lua are invalid - scrips exist for Windows that are sold, programs exist that are sold, come on.
Obviously Kuro/Conna's doing something right if he's going to college for it - I'd take a risk and say that a ton of you guys haven't even considered it until now.
[QUOTE=nicatronTg;22956840]Ugh, this is quite interesting, I'll put in my two cents:
Freely available code with no license is hard to differentiate what to do with, but for god's sake, even Exsto distributes modules with it's SVN, so you can't use that excuse, really.
Second, Lua scripts are like source code without a compiler, stop going nuts over it - if you could compile Lua, you'd respond differently. In the end, it's a modification to a game in a programming language, which is perfectly licensable. If I made a logo of a company in Gmod using props, the logo's not property of Garry or VALVe, the design of the game and related content is. If I make something with art pastels, the art isn't property of the pastel maker.
If you don't like Kuro's business model, don't buy it. I may be a huge amount late here, but I arrived in this scene after Conna was originally banned, yet the tools pack [b]was[/b] unique for it's time, and Nexus still amazes me. If you're still doubting it, go try a server running a schema - it's cinematic, artistic, and beautiful. To a certain extent, he deserves credit - he's done something nobody else has done before.
Lastly, CombineGuru/Seth sells aimbots, yet nobody goes after him? I don't give a shit, I have a donation system for my server, and people are fully aware about what they're getting when they donate. In a way, Garry's Mod is a platform that you can develop on, all your arguments over selling Lua are invalid - scrips exist for Windows that are sold, programs exist that are sold, come on.
Obviously Kuro/Conna's doing something right if he's going to college for it - I'd take a risk and say that a ton of you guys haven't even considered it until now.[/QUOTE]
There is this small difference betwheen a few bucks (5) and what conna want's for his 'gamemode' (300).
[QUOTE=sam6420;22954823]Too bad there is almost no way of getting nexus because all of the threads were deleted. Wonderful.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D930376[/url]
Google cache is a wonderful creation :v:
Garry's mod is now $6.99 and its coded much better then nexus and nexus is $300 and it needs garry's mod to run it lol fail
[QUOTE=nicatronTg;22956840]
Obviously Kuro/Conna's doing something right if he's going to college for it - I'd take a risk and say that a ton of you guys haven't even considered it until now.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, getting into college because you make and sell shitty roleplay gamemodes to 13 year olds is an amazing feat.
I agree with nicatronTg.
And I lol at posting logs of things. Because logs can't be faked... Right. I suppose the GAY AND BLACK bit at the end of the post isn't faked either?
The people who are badmouthing Conna (excluding FPtge, as he is making reasoned arguements) are actually making themselves look the worse people. Regardless of who's right or wrong, if you base your oppinion of someone based on the way they put themselves across, Conna seems like the most plausable person :-)
And IMO, there's nothing wrong with selling a game mode. Yes, I'd say the price is a bit steep personally, but it's his own choice.
If you wish to sell your game mode, go ahead. Don't let the haters get you down.
[QUOTE=Legend286;22961634]Oh yeah, getting into college because you make and sell shitty roleplay gamemodes to 13 year olds is an amazing feat.[/QUOTE]
News to me if a 13 year old has $300 to spend on the internet.
Nexus broke from new stupid Gmod update, I wonder if Kuro will allow us to get a fixed version from him :/
It's probably the modules, he uses 10 of em at least, and Azui only updated 3.
[QUOTE=nicatronTg;22963371]News to me if a 13 year old has $300 to spend on the internet.[/QUOTE]
Kids get anything if they nag their parents enough.
[QUOTE=Legend286;22967886]Kids get anything if they nag their parents enough.[/QUOTE]
Dunno what kind of childhood you had.
Nexus will only work if you delete gm_gamedescription.dll which all that does is spoof your gamemode name in the servers list. Thus it will name the gamemode in the server list the name that it shows in the folder.
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Nexus will only work if you delete gm_gamedescription.dll which all that does is spoof your gamemode name in the servers list. Thus it will name the gamemode in the server list the name that it shows in the folder.
Anyone know, in which file I find the place where I have to set the password into?
Because I've been searching for ages and still didn't find anything.
[editline]09:05AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=nicatronTg;22963371]News to me if a 13 year old has $300 to spend on the internet.[/QUOTE]
Hi, yes one of (ex)friend is 13 and he spent 300 USD on this shit.
Maybe i'm being the devil's advocate, but it appears that the main issue here is that a lot of peoples dislike the idea of having to pay to get their hands on someone else's code and are pretty much trying to charge the author as much as they can so they can feel that "It's only justice that we piratez his gamemode" .
No it is not. Everybody is free to sell, or give or license their work if they wish to do so. There is also no restriction in how much I, or you, or anybody can charge for his work, if you feel it's too much then do not buy it. But you can't have your cake and eat it too.
-So maybe Kuro didn't pay his forum license, so what? i know that tousand of peoples do so too, i have a friend who became quite an expert at using Vbulletin in the past 5 years and only now is considering to buy a license.
-So maybe Kuro attacked someone else's server, so what? it seems to be something that happen a lot already on CounterStrike source, and running a flood program has never been easier than these days.
-So maybe Kuro's stuff is shit and overpriced? Well that's possible, but you guys aparently really wants it too, i guess it's all in the eye of the beholder.
What i mean is that maybe he isn't the cleanest guy in this community, but that's no justification for stealing his work, getting revenge by beating up the guy who bullied you through highschool, that's still assault.
[QUOTE=die_angel;22973545]Maybe i'm being the devil's advocate, but it appears that [b]the main issue here[/b] is that a lot of peoples dislike the idea of having to pay to get their hands on someone else's code and are pretty much trying to charge the author as much as they can so they can feel that "It's only justice that we piratez his gamemode" .
No it is not. Everybody is free to sell, or give or license their work if they wish to do so. There is also no restriction in how much I, or you, or anybody can charge for his work, if you feel it's too much then do not buy it. But you can't have your cake and eat it too.
-So maybe Kuro didn't pay his forum license, so what? i know that tousand of peoples do so too, i have a friend who became quite an expert at using Vbulletin in the past 5 years and only now is considering to buy a license.
-So maybe Kuro attacked someone else's server, so what? it seems to be something that happen a lot already on CounterStrike source, and running a flood program has never been easier than these days.
-So maybe Kuro's stuff is shit and overpriced? Well that's possible, but you guys aparently really wants it too, i guess it's all in the eye of the beholder.
What i mean is that maybe he isn't the cleanest guy in this community, but that's no justification for stealing his work, getting revenge by beating up the guy who bullied you through highschool, that's still assault.[/QUOTE]
Thread title: Nexus [b]Exploits[/b] Megathread
How can selling scripts be the main issue? Conna is not the only person selling stuff. This thread is about the exploits.
[QUOTE=FPtje;22974060]Thread title: Nexus [b]Exploits[/b] Megathread
How can selling scripts be the main issue? Conna is not the only person selling stuff. This thread is about the exploits.[/QUOTE]
I know what the topic is supposed to be , but what I see is a bunch of kids peoples trying to justify that it's all fine for them to get a free lunch from kuro* because he is "a bad person who can't be trusted and leave purposely exploits and backdoors and shouldn't sell lua scripts anyway"
With or without backdoor aparently 3.1a was not supposed to be released to the public and thus, anybody who is using it without being one of kuro's subscribers is doing so illegally.
But hey, kids think they are invincible on teh interweb :)
[QUOTE=die_angel;22974248]I know what the topic is supposed to be , but what I see is a bunch of kids peoples trying to justify that it's all fine for them to get a free lunch from kuro* because he is "a bad person who can't be trusted and leave purposely exploits and backdoors and shouldn't sell lua scripts anyway"
With or without backdoor aparently 3.1a was not supposed to be released to the public and thus, anybody who is using it without being one of kuro's subscribers is doing so illegally.
But hey, kids think they are invincible on teh interweb :)[/QUOTE]
Nah mate, go read over the thread, using his script without a "license" from him isn't illegal, you need to realise that Garry stated that Garry's Mod lua cannot be copyrighted. Also fuck off in general.
[QUOTE=die_angel;22973545]
-So maybe Kuro didn't pay his forum license, so what? i know that tousand of peoples do so too, i have a friend who became quite an expert at using Vbulletin in the past 5 years and only now is considering to buy a license.
-So maybe Kuro attacked someone else's server, so what? it seems to be something that happen a lot already on CounterStrike source, and running a flood program has never been easier than these days.
-So maybe Kuro's stuff is shit and overpriced? Well that's possible, but you guys aparently really wants it too, i guess it's all in the eye of the beholder.
[/QUOTE]
Here are your points reworded.
"-I'm a big fat gay.
-So what if Kuro is an unlikeable asshole who attacks other people? Why are you hating on him?
-So what if Kuro is actively ripping off people and being proud of it? As long as his buyers are ignorant and oblivious, who cares if they're happy getting less then their money's worth?"
People like you support terrorism. I'm guessing you're British too?
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