Expression 2 ruined Gmod. - Garry's Mod

You try 'programming' the props. its tons harder. E2 is only bad because of the people who use it. You know how usfull it can be? It can delagify a server because it uses less chips.

[QUOTE=emperus;16812321]How can you even say that, expression 2 opened a world of unlimited possibilities, all those contraptions you could not make without it, and even tough I only see people saying they hate wiremod / e2 when they do not know how to use it, tell me if I am wrong.[/QUOTE] totally agree people say wiremod sux because: 1-they do not even know what it does 2-they can't get it for some reason 3-or they can get it but it doesn't work for them because they didn't install it right but after they get it their minds are like (automatically changes) to (OMG WIREMOD ROX) [editline]09:56AM[/editline] [QUOTE=tepholman;16822080]So Expression 2 is too easy to use?[/QUOTE] it's easy once u get used to it and it doesn't take very long just read it's documintation and take some tuts [editline]09:59AM[/editline] [QUOTE=emperus;16829407]Agreed, if you just learn some really simple coding language such as C# you only need to learn the functions in e2 and you'd understand the whole.[/QUOTE] ya e2 is basically like C# but only works in garrysmod so if u can learn C# u can learn e2 and the opposite applies [editline]10:03AM[/editline] [QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;16847543]Car races, flying machines, fort wars, robots, and things that actually move are all fun. A chip and a screen that can tell my my player model is not fun.[/QUOTE] u said robots i don't think robots can be made without wire [editline]10:07AM[/editline] [QUOTE=MegaJohnny;16852833]It's the making of it, and the achievement of overcoming the task you set that's the fun. Sometimes the building itself is more fun than the finished product, interestingly enough. And stop acting as if Wire is just a way to put numbers on a screen prop. The first thing I made in E2 was very simple to program, and it was a ball that hovered above people's heads. When I pushed the assigned numpad key it came down and smashed them into the ground. What you're saying is like saying computers are boring because all they do is process spreadsheets. But of course, computers are also tools for entertainment. If they weren't, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.[/QUOTE] thats right but also did u know that EVERY SINGLE PIXEL ON UR SCREEN AND EVERY SINGLE THING U DO ON YOUR COMPUTER IS A BUNCH OF........ numbers???? and not from 0-9 actually computers only work on 1 and 0 so u better appreciate that we have wiremod [editline]10:27AM[/editline] well ok for me I LOVE WIRE AND I LOVE E2 although im still a begginer i use e2 for good things like an anti minge thing that u don't have to kick the minge immediately it basically covers the minge with a large holo box and a blackhole detector whenever it detects a blackhold and everything lags it goes to it and destroys it now those are some good things u can do with e2 but there are some bad stuff u can do with e2 i saw a guy making a really small 3 line e2 that could crash gmod and a server just after spawning it so ya

After the applyForce tutorial maso did it got more minge'd

There's this cool little thing server owners can do to minges, called "banning." To "ban" someone is to immediately remove them from your server, and then forbid them from re-entering for a time decided by the owner or any admins he feels deserve the power. "Bans" can be helpful when minges are rampaging with E2 scripts. And guys, remember, E2 is on a server because the owner consciously installed it. It's not like minges are hijacking servers with E2. [I]E2, Brutai? Then fall, GMod[/I] [B]edit:[/B] sorry about the whole post date thing, just saw flamebait on the first page and dove for it.

You guys don't notice post date?

[QUOTE=killerteacup;16811630]Agreed. Bunch of people on the server I administrate have taken over our server (few admins, mods) and all they do is E2. They rack up 120 hours a fortnight on the one server and get angry at us when we don't do the same. All I do when I join is see E2 everywhere. :/, [B]where's the imagination?[/B][/QUOTE] It blew out of their asses. Lucky for me I still have my imagination and love building with physics.

Just because some of us don't build, doesn't mean we have no imagination.

I think that the OP is just another guy that can't figure out wiremod.

Can we just lock this thread? It only consists of: [quote] THOSE E2 USERS HAVE NO SOULS AND WANT TO TAKE MY DREAMS AND COMPRESS THEM INTO BLOCKS OF PHX [/quote] [quote] HAHAHA STUPID VANILLA BUILDERS OBVIOUSLY ARE STUPID BECAUSE THEY USE SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE MATHS [/quote]

[QUOTE=nighthawkamk;21774696]totally agree people say wiremod sux because: 1-they do not even know what it does 2-they can't get it for some reason 3-or they can get it but it doesn't work for them because they didn't install it right but after they get it their minds are like (automatically changes) to (OMG WIREMOD ROX) [editline]09:56AM[/editline] it's easy once u get used to it and it doesn't take very long just read it's documintation and take some tuts [editline]09:59AM[/editline] ya e2 is basically like C# but only works in garrysmod so if u can learn C# u can learn e2 and the opposite applies [editline]10:03AM[/editline] u said robots i don't think robots can be made without wire [editline]10:07AM[/editline] thats right but also did u know that EVERY SINGLE PIXEL ON UR SCREEN AND EVERY SINGLE THING U DO ON YOUR COMPUTER IS A BUNCH OF........ numbers???? and not from 0-9 actually computers only work on 1 and 0 so u better appreciate that we have wiremod [editline]10:27AM[/editline] well ok for me I LOVE WIRE AND I LOVE E2 although im still a begginer i use e2 for good things like an anti minge thing that u don't have to kick the minge immediately it basically covers the minge with a large holo box and a blackhole detector whenever it detects a blackhold and everything lags it goes to it and destroys it now those are some good things u can do with e2 but there are some bad stuff u can do with e2 i saw a guy making a really small 3 line e2 that could crash gmod and a server just after spawning it so ya[/QUOTE] Nice bump.

[QUOTE=playelite;21793514]Nice bump.[/QUOTE] thank you 5 bumps in 5 mins :P

[QUOTE=tepholman;21793486]Can we just lock this thread? It only consists of:[/QUOTE] And finally those 2% of us which respect every aspect of Garry's Mod.

[QUOTE=Helix Snake;16809066]Now there's no reason to make a contraption using physics because people can just program the props to do whatever the fuck they want. Thrusters, wheels, all of it is completely useless now, and being a mingebag is easier now then ever. That, and people have been encouraged to use E2 because E1 is being discontinued, so you can't just disable it. Go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong about anything.[/QUOTE] Nobody is forcing people to only use Expression 2 man, if you don't like it just go on non-Wire servers... For the larger demographic of Garry's Mod (To my awareness) Expression just opens up new doors for players who may be getting tired of just using the basic tools. That is my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=TurtleMadness;17367157]Mingebags are generally unintelligent people, so they won't even know how to use E2 in the first place. No, all those things are not totally useless, some E2 chips still need to take the output from a ranger or need a thruster, and can e2 chips spew bullets? didn't think so. Some e2 chips can be lone, but others need non-e2 wire tools.[/QUOTE] E2 build in ranger, E2 applyForce, E2 E:shootTo(V,N,N,N) Check Mate.

[QUOTE=Downsider;16818480]E2 should only have the features of E1, except with it's new syntax. I've been using the CPU chip instead of E2 because E2 can do "magic" things, like apply force vectors to physics props across the map, or spawn giant "holograms". It makes so very little sense. Horrible. Otherwise, E2 should be [i]fixed[/i] to have the same mathematical features, however, it should ONLY retain the ability to do input/output in the form of [b]wire values[/b]. No more magic target finding or force vectors. Fuck that.[/QUOTE] yet another person complaining about e2 because they dont know how to use it...

[quote="Downslider"] E2 should only have the features of E1, except with it's new syntax. I've been using the CPU chip instead of E2 because E2 can do "magic" things, like apply force vectors to physics props across the map, or spawn giant "holograms". It makes so very little sense. Horrible. Otherwise, E2 should be fixed to have the same mathematical features, however, it should ONLY retain the ability to do input/output in the form of wire values. No more magic target finding or force vectors. Fuck that. [/quote] Whilst we're at it, do you want to get rid of lua, as it is a 'magic' extension.

[QUOTE=whosdr;23518912]Whilst we're at it, do you want to get rid of lua, as it is a 'magic' extension.[/QUOTE] We should be getting rid of most tools, as Thrusters just apply a "magic" force forwards, and Wheels spin themselves by magic.

So uh, an ideal Garry's Mod has nothing moving, right?

Wiremod actually used to do cool things in [B]conjunction[/B] with props. That was OK, but I always preferred physics contraptions. [B]BUT E2 IS FUCKING RETARDED.[/B] It completely ruins the point of this being a physics sandbox. Also, half the time it's just being used to make minge contraptions like screamers and other shit. E2 sucks balls.

[QUOTE=wakkydude;23523798]Wiremod actually used to do cool things in [B]conjunction[/B] with props. That was OK, but I always preferred physics contraptions. [B]BUT E2 IS FUCKING RETARDED.[/B] It completely ruins the point of this being a physics sandbox. Also, half the time it's just being used to make minge contraptions like screamers and other shit. E2 sucks balls.[/QUOTE] Why don't you try making something with it. Not easy eh? Model manipulation with E2 is a lot harder. It took me about an hour to create an E2 to create a house that would probably take you 5-10 minutes normally.

[QUOTE=whosdr;23524654]It took me about an hour to create an E2 to create a house that would probably take you 5-10 minutes normally.[/QUOTE] And what was achieved?

I hate when people use E2 to add chat commands. All I see in chat is !fire !fire !barrelroll !sprint :arghfist::saddowns: [editline]11:46PM[/editline] I'll take keyboard inputs thank you, they don't clutter every ones view.

The only real thing I have against Expression 2 is undoubtedly the Drunken Combine. Its a clever piece of work, but [i]so annoying[/i]...

[QUOTE=GM0D;23525250]And what was achieved?[/QUOTE] Self repair, rotation, changing door direction, quick paste.

What is Expression 2? No, seriously...I don't know. Give me boxes if I should know this.

[QUOTE=Rooster Assassin;23525432]I hate when people use E2 to add chat commands. All I see in chat is !fire !fire !barrelroll !sprint :arghfist::saddowns: [editline]11:46PM[/editline] I'll take keyboard inputs thank you, they don't clutter every ones view.[/QUOTE] I use hideChat(1). It stops commands of mine from showing.

[QUOTE=Zedo Mann;23533320]What is Expression 2? No, seriously...I don't know. Give me boxes if I should know this.[/QUOTE] A wiremod tool that lets you program a chip to do a wide variety of things. But everyone else here can probably explain it better.

[QUOTE=Zedo Mann;23533320]What is Expression 2? No, seriously...I don't know. Give me boxes if I should know this.[/QUOTE] A programmable wire 'god' chip. [url]http://wiki.garrysmod.com/?title=Wire_Expression2[/url]

Hm. I barely even know Wiremod, so that explains why I wouldn't know E2.

[QUOTE=wakkydude;23523798]Wiremod actually used to do cool things in [B]conjunction[/B] with props. That was OK, but I always preferred physics contraptions. [B]BUT E2 IS FUCKING RETARDED.[/B] It completely ruins the point of this being a physics sandbox. Also, half the time it's just being used to make minge contraptions like screamers and other shit. E2 sucks balls.[/QUOTE] you're a woman that never explained to me why the black box nature of gmod affects you in any meaningful way. you're against something that reduces lag and opens creative doors for everyone who plays this game. you're against a tool that can teach you mathematics and physics. you're against [i]progress[/i]. And you're going to dodge the question again and disappear again until you raise your ugly head in another thread. [i]Justify yourself, please.[/i]