[QUOTE=Icejjfish;45401326]Now that is some fucked up shit.[/QUOTE]
course it is, first he says we DDOS'd now Maze who WAS running vG, killslick said asked why he is having The Divine DDOS HZ, now if i remember correctly in the video he says that Jaxon and Hammer are DDOSing, this is what he does he plays the blame game when truly he has NO IDEA on who DDOS'd him cause hes a stupid ass cripple fuck
and I happen to be Maze, by the way.
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Yeah, [i]think about it.[/i]
I especially liked the part: "Take you offline so you'll never connect to the internet again"
lol
I keep seeing this pop up. Can someone TL;DR in a couple sentences or so?
OP doesn't like Hellzone, makes thread to bash it. Entire garry's mod community doesn't like hellzone either, keeps ranting in thread. Then drama happens, more people post. It's really top-level entertainment, you should read the whole thread and follow links.
Here's my $0.02, hell maybe you'll finding it entertaining :rolleyes:
Was on earlier, no admins on (hell maybe there were and just didn't care) and people were spawn killing on the PERP server whole car dealership was on fire. I said ok, no ones fault except some kids that think they're hard on GMOD so I come back later. I did some things I didn't know that were against the rules (because f*ck the rules right). Anyways, I'm issued a warning from the admin and am sent on my way. Here's the fun part: I get stuck on an RV and the admin that's cloaked starts to physgun me out, I say,"Ugh find someone else to follow, then disconnect." Later I come back on and some admin blows up my car when I'm driving it to the city and says,"You thought you could get away with that?" I'm completely dumbfounded as to what he was talking about. I tell him I have no idea what he's talking about, he seems to have no idea either so he calls the admin that I "evaded". The admin then comes over and tells me that I "tried to escape punishment" when he seemingly was just helping me get unstuck, he then lies that he put me on the roof and [B]directed me[/B] to stay there when he got someone else (I had already disconnected, there as no instructions given to me.) He then warns me not to do that again and I realize that it's a misunderstanding and try and correct him. He then kicks me with message,"Don't evade punishment, ~his little retardo name here" If I evaded why not ban me for evading??? You don't wait for them to come back then kick them for something they did previously without punishment. (Like throwing another pitch after a controversial play, baseball reference). I thought that a few fun police roleplay moments was worth it, but after that silly altercation with clueless, inexperienced, not-understanding admins I won't be going back. Most roleplays end with AK-47 to the face or being runover, hell walking on the street minding your own business can end like that on there.
What exactly is the point of this thread?
We won't stop Killslick, we won't stop Hellzone, because his huge army of 13 year old squeekers will still keep throwing money at him. I think it's clear now that nobody above the age of 16 hates Hellzone and Killslick, but unless you find a way to get them down permamently, then they will always be there.
Also i find it a little odd how nobody can actually prove that he owns his little crappy gamemode named PERP.
When you ask him for proof, he won't show anybody, hell he didn't even bother telling me the name of his little licensing "Company" he's "working" with. [sp]Who the fuck licenses a gamemode with a company?![/sp]
[QUOTE=Hollistupid;45445167]Here's my $0.02, hell maybe you'll finding it entertaining :rolleyes:
Was on earlier, no admins on (hell maybe there were and just didn't care) and people were spawn killing on the PERP server whole car dealership was on fire. I said ok, no ones fault except some kids that think they're hard on GMOD so I come back later. I did some things I didn't know that were against the rules (because f*ck the rules right). Anyways, I'm issued a warning from the admin and am sent on my way. Here's the fun part: I get stuck on an RV and the admin that's cloaked starts to physgun me out, I say,"Ugh find someone else to follow, then disconnect." Later I come back on and some admin blows up my car when I'm driving it to the city and says,"You thought you could get away with that?" I'm completely dumbfounded as to what he was talking about. I tell him I have no idea what he's talking about, he seems to have no idea either so he calls the admin that I "evaded". The admin then comes over and tells me that I "tried to escape punishment" when he seemingly was just helping me get unstuck, he then lies that he put me on the roof and [B]directed me[/B] to stay there when he got someone else (I had already disconnected, there as no instructions given to me.) He then warns me not to do that again and I realize that it's a misunderstanding and try and correct him. He then kicks me with message,"Don't evade punishment, ~his little retardo name here" If I evaded why not ban me for evading??? You don't wait for them to come back then kick them for something they did previously without punishment. (Like throwing another pitch after a controversial play, baseball reference). I thought that a few fun police roleplay moments was worth it, but after that silly altercation with clueless, inexperienced, not-understanding admins I won't be going back. Most roleplays end with AK-47 to the face or being runover, hell walking on the street minding your own business can end like that on there.[/QUOTE]
That's because the Hellzone admin system is useless. It's warn-kick-kick-ban. This means you can massrdm spawn and get a warning. The best part is that admins don't have a way to keep track of warnings because killslick refuses to use any form of keeping tabs on people because "it encourages witchhunting." I would know I was an admin for almost 2 years. lololollololol
Hello everyone. I'm a former Hellzone Admin for over 1 year and clan member for over 2 years. I realized about after a year of being in the clan I realized how worthless the clan is and how much of a waste of time it was. I dedicated so much of my time like a dumbass and kept slowly losing my social life to play on PERP and grow drugs and kill people. Although it was fun at first with all the good rp'ers. But they slowly realized as well and left the clan and server one by one till it was all young teens and little kids in the server. The server slowly turned to shit day by day with all these little kids getting to do whatever they want and anytime we banned them or kick them they would cry to killslick and probably give him pj pics so he could unban them and yell at us. It got to the point where killslick said we can't permaban people anymore. Pretty much that let the server die out even more because the minges would get banned for a day and come back for more. I was known to permaban a lot of people that'd ive banned many times or people who were just straight up minges. But killslick didnt trust us as always, the only thing he trusts is the money he hides in his stack of pizza boxes in his room. He makes so much money from all these servers he legally can't collect it and put in his bank without paying taxes. It's his whole income and he pays no taxes on it. So anyways the server kept turning to shit and losing players so he changed the map and then changed it again two months later. He then lost even more players and didn't know what the fuck to do and after like 2-3 months he switched it back to v4b1. Most of the higher up admins either stopped playing or quit admin because it was pretty much a job. Killslick says how he doesn't want to make it a job but he does make it a job and so do all the other nerds that spend all day there admining and shit. It's not a requirement on how much you have to admin but people will get on your ass after you aren't on for one day. Its a video game for crying out loud people, we should be able to play when we want and admin when we want. And we should only be playing for a few hours a day at MOST. I just sick of all the no lifes who chase you down and complain to killslick when you don't admin or when you don't play. I have a life bro I have shit to do, not sit home and slave on a video game for killslick so he can keep stacking up pizza boxes.
Also the rules haven't been updated in over two years. He makes up new rules almost everyday and changes existing rules all the time to cover other people asses as well as all the little kids. 75% of the problems on the server could be stopped if he just updated the rule list. But, he doesn't take well to constructive criticism, he will just ban you or tell you that you are wrong. #justkillslickthings. As far as becoming an admin you had to work extremely hard for about a year before you could get admin. With a very small exception where sometimes an extremely mature or good roleplay got admin very quick. That was two years ago however. Now if you join the clan and ask for admin he will literally give it to you if admins say yes in the admin meetings. Lets not forget that most of the admins are kids or young teens now so they will vote yes if they are your friend, they dont actually care about your rp skill. There was a buy named capito, now broski who tried to join the clan last summer. During the whole recruitment process he kept asking me how he could get admin and how long it would take etc. He pretty much wanted to join just for admin. He rarely played on the servers and didn't have much experience at all. After becoming a recruit he shortly left after finding out how long it would take for him to get admin. Now here we are about two months ago he starts playing on the server again and rejoins the clan because he found out that admin is handed out now. Killslick will hand out admin to people and if they do bad he will kick them off. Literally, hands out admin. So this broski guy joins and gets admin pretty much right away. Not even a week of experience on the server he is the most unexperienced admin ever. I thought adidas was the worst, but this guy is bar none. He can't handle admin situations, he always takes peoples sides, he doesn't know how to make the correct decision. And last but not least he doesn't know the rules for shit. Looking to today hes been in the clan for about 2 months and already a CPL. He admins his life away all day on the server and doesn't even play. Yet he is shit at admin. Killslicks exact words back in the day was that if you wanted admin you had to gain the respect of every single member and show that you can be an admin. This kid didn't do that at all, he literally joined the clan and it was handed to him because he asked. Most of the admins you will see in the server now, have received admin that way. Now you want to become an admin you say? Slave on the server and not have any fun and then when you get off killslick will just shit talk you for anything you did wrong even though you spent all those hours slaving for him. All the no life admins will then chase you around in teamspeak to get you to admin on the server. And you want to play other games while you are in the clan you say? Nope, killslick will go straight to whatever channel you are in, in teamspeak and tell you to get off the game and go admin and slave for him while he racks in money. Ok so now you've gotten to the point where you've been in the clan for a while and you realize all the time you wasted. So you want to leave? Oh killslick will shit talk you to hell and make everyone think you were terrible and everything did was bad. He will make up lies, and if you are lucky he won't call you a ddoser. He called mostly everyone that left corrupt or a ddoser. He says he has "proof" of all the corrupt things you did, and then when you talk to him privately he will say "I didn't record anything so I'm not sure".
He will ban you from his teamspeak and forums for leaving because you aren't part of the clan anymore. But there are plenty of people there that aren't in the clan. Also he claims he bought pulsar effect for well over $10,000 and he was going to pay it off in 6 months. From one of the people that were there for the purchase that were his witness, they say he bought it for $1300 and VG for $1000 and he paid it off the next month. If he cry's blood all the time why does he spent $1300 and $1000 on communities. VG doesn't make him any money, and pretty much all the members of VG left to make a new clan anyway. He sends out emails saying to donate so he can visit his parents in another state. Don't believe that bullshit, he's loaded and hes just trying to make more money because his server is dying from all the little kids. The server has picked up recently but thats only because its summer and all the little kids are telling their other little kid friends about it. And even if Pulsar effect cost him over $10,000 where does he get that money from if he is always crying blood hmm? Poor man's story at its finest. After you leave and hes done talking shit about you, he will sweet talk you and tell you he will give you all this power and all these things like super admin to get you to come back because he knows his community is dying. It happened last year, it will happen again. Do you have PJ pics to donate? Great! Get promoted to WO1. Just like one of the members did. Also don't ever expect him to thank you or feel grateful for anything you've ever done for the clan. He will just push you away and talk shit about you behind your back. Also were you thinking about becoming a coder? Well just so you know he's never really ever implemented other than Acecool's tree patch where the trees were actually solid. He's lost so many coders because they will make something nice for the server and he will just put them down and tell them its shit. Also he will make up stories about how he was so many things. One example was when he said he was a police officer, a "special" police officer. He said he was trained to shoot for the elbows and the wrists, which is pretty
[QUOTE=riekelt;45445471]What exactly is the point of this thread?
We won't stop Killslick, we won't stop Hellzone, because his huge army of 13 year old squeekers will still keep throwing money at him. I think it's clear now that nobody above the age of 16 hates Hellzone and Killslick, but unless you find a way to get them down permamently, then they will always be there.
Also i find it a little odd how nobody can actually prove that he owns his little crappy gamemode named PERP.
When you ask him for proof, he won't show anybody, hell he didn't even bother telling me the name of his little licensing "Company" he's "working" with. [sp]Who the fuck licenses a gamemode with a company?![/sp][/QUOTE]
He says "bring it to court and I'll show you" which he knows no one will ever do because it's a fucking video game
[QUOTE=Alexxx;45458910]He says "bring it to court and I'll show you" which he knows no one will ever do because it's a fucking video game[/QUOTE]
Honestly, if someone really wanted to get even with him, all they'd have to do is set up a cell-phone IED using tannerite infront of his house. Will do fuck all, but will probably scare the shit out of him.
[QUOTE=GoldTrigger;45456783]That's because the Hellzone admin system is useless. It's warn-kick-kick-ban. This means you can massrdm spawn and get a warning. The best part is that admins don't have a way to keep track of warnings because killslick refuses to use any form of keeping tabs on people because "it encourages witchhunting." I would know I was an admin for almost 2 years. lololollololol[/QUOTE]
I'll be completely honest; Killslick does have a point there. Having lists and lists of do's and don'ts and rules and regulations just adds bureaucracy to something that really doesn't need any more bureaucracy. Like I've said before, it's a gaming clan. Nothing more.
there are lots of words about an rp community in this thread
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im surprised anyone still cared about those
In all honesty this thread needs to die. Like Kane said, it's a damn gaming community. I left HZ over a year ago and life is so much better because I avoid all the dumb shit that goes along with clans. Hence, who really cares about this topic.
[QUOTE=HeresTheTruth;45457395]Hello everyone. I'm a former Hellzone Admin for over 1 year and clan member for over 2 years. I realized about after a year of being in the clan I realized how worthless the clan is and how much of a waste of time it was. I dedicated so much of my time like a dumbass and kept slowly losing my social life to play on PERP and grow drugs and kill people. Although it was fun at first with all the good rp'ers. But they slowly realized as well and left the clan and server one by one till it was all young teens and little kids in the server. The server slowly turned to shit day by day with all these little kids getting to do whatever they want and anytime we banned them or kick them they would cry to killslick and probably give him pj pics so he could unban them and yell at us. It got to the point where killslick said we can't permaban people anymore. Pretty much that let the server die out even more because the minges would get banned for a day and come back for more. I was known to permaban a lot of people that'd ive banned many times or people who were just straight up minges. But killslick didnt trust us as always, the only thing he trusts is the money he hides in his stack of pizza boxes in his room. He makes so much money from all these servers he legally can't collect it and put in his bank without paying taxes. It's his whole income and he pays no taxes on it. So anyways the server kept turning to shit and losing players so he changed the map and then changed it again two months later. He then lost even more players and didn't know what the fuck to do and after like 2-3 months he switched it back to v4b1. Most of the higher up admins either stopped playing or quit admin because it was pretty much a job. Killslick says how he doesn't want to make it a job but he does make it a job and so do all the other nerds that spend all day there admining and shit. It's not a requirement on how much you have to admin but people will get on your ass after you aren't on for one day. Its a video game for crying out loud people, we should be able to play when we want and admin when we want. And we should only be playing for a few hours a day at MOST. I just sick of all the no lifes who chase you down and complain to killslick when you don't admin or when you don't play. I have a life bro I have shit to do, not sit home and slave on a video game for killslick so he can keep stacking up pizza boxes.
Also the rules haven't been updated in over two years. He makes up new rules almost everyday and changes existing rules all the time to cover other people asses as well as all the little kids. 75% of the problems on the server could be stopped if he just updated the rule list. But, he doesn't take well to constructive criticism, he will just ban you or tell you that you are wrong. #justkillslickthings. As far as becoming an admin you had to work extremely hard for about a year before you could get admin. With a very small exception where sometimes an extremely mature or good roleplay got admin very quick. That was two years ago however. Now if you join the clan and ask for admin he will literally give it to you if admins say yes in the admin meetings. Lets not forget that most of the admins are kids or young teens now so they will vote yes if they are your friend, they dont actually care about your rp skill. There was a buy named capito, now broski who tried to join the clan last summer. During the whole recruitment process he kept asking me how he could get admin and how long it would take etc. He pretty much wanted to join just for admin. He rarely played on the servers and didn't have much experience at all. After becoming a recruit he shortly left after finding out how long it would take for him to get admin. Now here we are about two months ago he starts playing on the server again and rejoins the clan because he found out that admin is handed out now. Killslick will hand out admin to people and if they do bad he will kick them off. Literally, hands out admin. So this broski guy joins and gets admin pretty much right away. Not even a week of experience on the server he is the most unexperienced admin ever. I thought adidas was the worst, but this guy is bar none. He can't handle admin situations, he always takes peoples sides, he doesn't know how to make the correct decision. And last but not least he doesn't know the rules for shit. Looking to today hes been in the clan for about 2 months and already a CPL. He admins his life away all day on the server and doesn't even play. Yet he is shit at admin. Killslicks exact words back in the day was that if you wanted admin you had to gain the respect of every single member and show that you can be an admin. This kid didn't do that at all, he literally joined the clan and it was handed to him because he asked. Most of the admins you will see in the server now, have received admin that way. Now you want to become an admin you say? Slave on the server and not have any fun and then when you get off killslick will just shit talk you for anything you did wrong even though you spent all those hours slaving for him. All the no life admins will then chase you around in teamspeak to get you to admin on the server. And you want to play other games while you are in the clan you say? Nope, killslick will go straight to whatever channel you are in, in teamspeak and tell you to get off the game and go admin and slave for him while he racks in money. Ok so now you've gotten to the point where you've been in the clan for a while and you realize all the time you wasted. So you want to leave? Oh killslick will shit talk you to hell and make everyone think you were terrible and everything did was bad. He will make up lies, and if you are lucky he won't call you a ddoser. He called mostly everyone that left corrupt or a ddoser. He says he has "proof" of all the corrupt things you did, and then when you talk to him privately he will say "I didn't record anything so I'm not sure".
He will ban you from his teamspeak and forums for leaving because you aren't part of the clan anymore. But there are plenty of people there that aren't in the clan. Also he claims he bought pulsar effect for well over $10,000 and he was going to pay it off in 6 months. From one of the people that were there for the purchase that were his witness, they say he bought it for $1300 and VG for $1000 and he paid it off the next month. If he cry's blood all the time why does he spent $1300 and $1000 on communities. VG doesn't make him any money, and pretty much all the members of VG left to make a new clan anyway. He sends out emails saying to donate so he can visit his parents in another state. Don't believe that bullshit, he's loaded and hes just trying to make more money because his server is dying from all the little kids. The server has picked up recently but thats only because its summer and all the little kids are telling their other little kid friends about it. And even if Pulsar effect cost him over $10,000 where does he get that money from if he is always crying blood hmm? Poor man's story at its finest. After you leave and hes done talking shit about you, he will sweet talk you and tell you he will give you all this power and all these things like super admin to get you to come back because he knows his community is dying. It happened last year, it will happen again. Do you have PJ pics to donate? Great! Get promoted to WO1. Just like one of the members did. Also don't ever expect him to thank you or feel grateful for anything you've ever done for the clan. He will just push you away and talk shit about you behind your back. Also were you thinking about becoming a coder? Well just so you know he's never really ever implemented other than Acecool's tree patch where the trees were actually solid. He's lost so many coders because they will make something nice for the server and he will just put them down and tell them its shit. Also he will make up stories about how he was so many things. One example was when he said he was a police officer, a "special" police officer. He said he was trained to shoot for the elbows an
Killslick also made $900 the first week darkrp was back up, according to what some people have told me who talked to the-then DvL of dark rp.
I always have to marvel at the amount of drama Roleplaying servers generate, such a disproportionate amount that people declare the decay of Garrysmod because of it. No its not the death of a sandbox environment, just of a branch of really fun games inundated with tripe.
On the flip side of the spectrum, I've been part of a building community for about quite a while, and there is literally no drama whatsoever. The little that there is usually stems from the server's mod dependencies, and because everybody treats gmod as a game (because it is), nothing ever gets done about it unless its effects are immediate and nasty.
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And then everyone goes on with their life as usual.
[QUOTE=mn_chaos;45462577]I always have to marvel at the amount of drama Roleplaying servers generate, such a disproportionate amount that people declare the decay of Garrysmod because of it. No its not the death of a sandbox environment, just of a branch of really fun games inundated with tripe.
On the flip side of the spectrum, I've been part of a building community for about quite a while, and there is literally no drama whatsoever. The little that there is usually stems from the server's mod dependencies, and because everybody treats gmod as a game (because it is), nothing ever gets done about it unless its effects are immediate and nasty.
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And then everyone goes on with their life as usual.[/QUOTE]
It's because the leaders are full of themselves and the clan members get tired of admining. Look at admins on any other game, take css for example. You play the whole time and you might have a mic spammer or something every once in a while and it takes you 10 seconds to kick or ban them. Roleplay servers are pointless if you want to be an admin, go do something better with your life, something more productive.
Why does this thread still exist. What do you have to gain from spewing pointless hatred and lies over a bloody Game mode. He copyrights and DMCA's over game-modes I don't necessarily like the fact that he does that but i'm not gonna lose sleep over it. We have people like HeresTheTruth more then likely a banned ex-HZ member trying to spread lies about KS just to make him look bad and people buy this crap because they aren't actually in the clan seeing whats happening. So I just question why do people waste their time here its not gonna make HZ shut down and its not gonna stop KS from getting his "Fat Stacks" so why bother. Maybe you should have stayed in the clan and worked things out and tried to make a change. That's just my two cents.
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[QUOTE=GoldTrigger;45456783]That's because the Hellzone admin system is useless. It's warn-kick-kick-ban. This means you can massrdm spawn and get a warning. The best part is that admins don't have a way to keep track of warnings because killslick refuses to use any form of keeping tabs on people because "it encourages witchhunting." I would know I was an admin for almost 2 years. lololollololol[/QUOTE]GoldTrigger you know that's perfectly well thats not true if there's a mass RDMer at spawn for example they would be banned immediately. I'm an admin and have dealt with similar situations and you have to. Don't be a lie spreading douche please.
Now on the witchhunting thing I totally agree that makes no sense to me what so ever.
PERP is a terrible gamemode held together by squeakers please stop.
[QUOTE=Chaosblock;45471900]Why does this thread still exist. What do you have to gain from spewing pointless hatred and lies over a bloody Game mode. He copyrights and DMCA's over game-modes I don't necessarily like the fact that he does that but i'm not gonna lose sleep over it. We have people like HeresTheTruth more then likely a banned ex-HZ member trying to spread lies about KS just to make him look bad and people buy this crap because they aren't actually in the clan seeing whats happening. So I just question why do people waste their time here its not gonna make HZ shut down and its not gonna stop KS from getting his "Fat Stacks" so why bother. Maybe you should have stayed in the clan and worked things out and tried to make a change. That's just my two cents.
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GoldTrigger you know that's perfectly well thats not true if there's a mass RDMer at spawn for example they would be banned immediately. I'm an admin and have dealt with similar situations and you have to. Don't be a lie spreading douche please.
Now on the witchhunting thing I totally agree that makes no sense to me what so ever.[/QUOTE]
Chaosblock I was in the clan for almost 2 years. We had several mass rdmers come on and get warned. Don't talk about things you know nothing about.
P.S You also get a warning for hacking. :)
Why do I feel that 50% of the posters here are most likely killslick and his "headmates"
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;45474065]Why do I feel that 50% of the posters here are most likely killslick and his "headmates"[/QUOTE]
They don't seem to get no matter what you say on Facepunch you will always get beat down and you can never defend yourself unless your reason goes with the majority of the other members.
So, umm, hurr, durrr, HellZone sucks and Killslick is a giant dick or something, hurr, hurr, hurr.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;45474065]Why do I feel that 50% of the posters here are most likely killslick and his "headmates"[/QUOTE]
Because they are. I really don't understand why people get so hyped up over this shit, it's honestly so dumb. Who cares if Killslick is a douchebag, just ignore him
To quote Andy of QIG, he makes around 300-400 in the winter and around 700-800 in the summer months.
Now compare QIGs population to HZ and add the fact that HZ has a popular HL2RP and DarkRP
(On the same server box)
[url]http://www.gametracker.com/search/?query=%231z&=GO[/url]
[url]http://www.gametracker.com/search/?query=qig&=GO[/url]
He claims he spents thousands on ddos protection, when asked for proof he showed me a recipt of $450 for a year of protection back in 2012. I asked for this current years and he just blocked me.
He claims he makes his money through computer repairs, but a simple google search that brings up his old computer repair business if you call the number it's disconnected and the website is down.
He used to claim he worked at a bank managing the computer systems, a simple call proved that they didn't even know who a Mark Clark was.
He lives off disability and donations, plain and simple.
Leave this damn thread alone already, it needs to die. This perp talk is annoying as shit
[QUOTE=Matthew55;45507989]To quote Andy of QIG, he makes around 300-400 in the winter and around 700-800 in the summer months.
Now compare QIGs population to HZ and add the fact that HZ has a popular HL2RP and DarkRP
(On the same server box)
[url]http://www.gametracker.com/search/?query=%231z&=GO[/url]
[url]http://www.gametracker.com/search/?query=qig&=GO[/url]
He claims he spents thousands on ddos protection, when asked for proof he showed me a recipt of $450 for a year of protection back in 2012. I asked for this current years and he just blocked me.
He claims he makes his money through computer repairs, but a simple google search that brings up his old computer repair business if you call the number it's disconnected and the website is down.
He used to claim he worked at a bank managing the computer systems, a simple call proved that they didn't even know who a Mark Clark was.
He lives off disability and donations, plain and simple.[/QUOTE]
Shiat dude u really hate this guy.
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The Fuck Hellzone Manifesto.
