Shit that gets you mad in Gmod - Garry's Mod

[QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;47254108]... Your extremely [I]toxic[/I] mindset is the biggest reason why I hate a huge majority of sandbox servers. [I]If it's not YOUR WAY, it must be the WRONG WAY and you're BAD AT GARRY'S MOD.[/I] There is no such thing at being bad at Garry's Mod for building things differently than you do. That's fucking ridiculous. I could understand if the guy was saying his way was the best way ever and everyone who doesn't do it is awful, but from what I'm seeing, he was minding his own business until you/whoever else stepped in and shat on his methods completely unprovoked. Of course someone is going to get offended. Wouldn't [I]you[/I] get upset and defensive if someone started shitting on YOUR building methods? Building with PAC doesn't even really propose a severe problem on anything. Lag? Turn off PAC! Is someone trying to have a tank battle with a tank with a PAC body? Yeah that's shitty, but if there isn't a specific rule against it, change that and then kick them! But if neither of those are a problem like if someone is just making stuff for themselves not to fight with, then shut up and let them be! Simple as! There's no need to whine and bitch at something you don't like, especially if you refuse to fix that problem when you easily can without plain up insulting and harassing people. Rant over, but that's shit that gets me mad in Garry's Mod.[/QUOTE] Calling a building method is a far cry from harassment. I'm mentioning it because he seems to dislike the "no disrespecting staff" rule, yet he feels somewhat hemmed in if someone tells him his preferred building method is obnoxious. There's a bit of a logical disconnect. As for using PAC as a building tool, overuse and referencing external material makes turning on PAC seem undesirable. Someone focusing most of their strengths into simply pulling sprites/models/materials from external sources, or stacking a lot of clientside objects can be very stressful for a server. Changes to the PAC and communicating the original orientation of said PAC requires Server/Client interaction which can be quite negative. Even when turned off, it generates scripting overhead and queries the server for foreign materials/models. Generally speaking, you're taking a tool that once was used to give people funny hats and turning it into something it is not, a building tool. If you aren't aware of the issues that PAC can cause by being overused, I do not blame you for thinking it is a viable alternative. I find it miserable enough to keep it turned off. There are arguments to be made that generic building can do the same thing, but there are more administrative controls available to curb certain aspects of construction. There are little to no controls for PAC as an administrator, which makes me more uncomfortable with just how much crap you can access with it.

[QUOTE=Sestze;47254907]Calling a building method is a far cry from harassment. I'm mentioning it because he seems to dislike the "no disrespecting staff" rule, yet he feels somewhat hemmed in if someone tells him his preferred building method is obnoxious.[/quote] It still sounded pretty unprovoked from when it originally happened. And really, why respect an admin if they can't respect how you build if it isn't bothering anyone in a way that can't be easily solved? << That's just my personal opinion though. [quote]As for using PAC as a building tool, overuse and referencing external material makes turning on PAC seem undesirable. Someone focusing most of their strengths into simply pulling sprites/models/materials from external sources, or stacking a lot of clientside objects can be very stressful for a server. Changes to the PAC and communicating the original orientation of said PAC requires Server/Client interaction which can be quite negative. Even when turned off, it generates scripting overhead and queries the server for foreign materials/models.[/quote] I've never seen any noticeable stress on a server from purely clientside objects. Any stress there is is negligible, and if your/someone's server is suffering noticeably from a couple people with PACs, there's a problem with the server, not the addon. Case in point: My friend runs a home-hosted sandbox server that's on a shitty prebuilt PC for all of his friends who use PAC a lot, really really heavy PACs too, at least 100-200kb+ in size. The difference between 10 people online with heavy PACs on, and those same 10 without anything applied whatsoever, is almost unnoticeable (maybe knocks down the SV by 2 or 3??), even when there's a lot going on in the server with contraptions, NPCs, coding bullshit, you name it. Making six mildly complex props collide too fast put way more stress on it. This is the same situation for another (public) sandbox server I occasionally play on with similar addons to the usual ACF server. So I have no idea where you're pulling this from. I'm not saying you're lying, but I am saying the effects aren't really a problem. [quote]Generally speaking, you're taking a tool that once was used to give people funny hats and turning it into something it is not, a building tool. If you aren't aware of the issues that PAC can cause by being overused, I do not blame you for thinking it is a viable alternative. I find it miserable enough to keep it turned off.[/quote] If it really wasn't meant for building, why is it so viable for it? Why can we apply it to props and not just ourselves, NPCs, or vehicles? And the only issues I've really seen on super PAC heavy servers (where it could be considered overused) is client framerate, which is instantly resolved by lowering the render distance, upping the maximum render time, or turning the entire thing off completely, bang, framerate issues gone. [quote]There are arguments to be made that generic building can do the same thing, but there are more administrative controls available to curb certain aspects of construction. There are little to no controls for PAC as an administrator, which makes me more uncomfortable with just how much crap you can access with it.[/QUOTE] If the owner knows anything about lua, you can modify PAC quite easily to suit your needs. Restricting players from putting PACs on props or anything but themselves, or using certain parts, or restricting certain ranks from using it entirely. I think you can also restrict how many parts can be in a single outfit at a time. Asking in the PAC3 thread for assistance on that will usually net you a comprehensive answer from either Suchipi, CapsAdmin, Techbot, or someone else who knows quite a bit about it's inner workings. And perhaps, if you own the server or have any authority on it, if you dislike it so much, make a rule for players to not put PACs on their contraptions, and only on themselves? See? There's nothing that one can't fix in Garry's Mod when it comes to a large majority of things. There's a solution to all of this that don't require insulting someone or bugging someone over their building method.

I created a very small city map once. Abit the style of the christmas town map. My intent was not to make it a DarkRP map even though it was a city map. I published it on the workshop and asked for some feedback on my project as it was my first try.. And I got completely crushed by the hostiles in the workshop.. I can take critisism but some of the comments were just plain out evil. I removed it from the workshop sortly after because im a emo kid like that... I hate workshop.

[QUOTE=Japzzi;47255309]I created a very small city map once. Abit the style of the christmas town map. My intent was not to make it a DarkRP map even though it was a city map. I published it on the workshop and asked for some feedback on my project as it was my first try.. And I got completely crushed by the hostiles in the workshop.. I can take critisism but some of the comments were just plain out evil. I removed it from the workshop sortly after because im a emo kid like that... I hate workshop.[/QUOTE] Number 1 rule in workshop city = rp

[QUOTE=Zelpa;47254005]The fact that Gmod hasn't been ported to Source 2 yet, it's been announced for like a few hours now. Get with the god damn times Kilburn.[/QUOTE] Garry actually confirmed that he doesn't want GMod on Source 2, didn't he?

People who upload vehicle/mechanical dupes without giving controls.

[QUOTE=TeamEnternode;47256083]People who upload vehicle/mechanical dupes without giving controls.[/QUOTE] People who upload vehicle/mechanical dupes without parenting and with 1337 welds and 9001 nocollides.

[QUOTE=AJ10017;47235099]I hate how i cant go on a server without there being a "No disrespecting staff" rule. I literally got kicked for calling an admin a noob. Why should i be forced to respect someone? respect is earned, and honestly its the fucking internet. i dont care if your feelings are hurt by someone calling you something[/QUOTE] Because administrators don't pay so that you can be dicks to them. In every community I've had admin powers in, or owned, be it GMod, Counterstrike, minecraft, forums, TF2, DoD:S, etc, the most annoying people are the ones that think it's a democracy. Admins aren't police in a country, they're security in a building you don't have exclusive rights to be in, causing problems with them means you deserve everything you get. [QUOTE=SuperDuperScoot;47254108]... Your extremely [I]toxic[/I] mindset is the biggest reason why I hate a huge majority of sandbox servers. [I]If it's not YOUR WAY, it must be the WRONG WAY and you're BAD AT GARRY'S MOD.[/I] There is no such thing at being bad at Garry's Mod for building things differently than you do. That's fucking ridiculous. I could understand if the guy was saying his way was the best way ever and everyone who doesn't do it is awful, but from what I'm seeing, he was minding his own business until you/whoever else stepped in and shat on his methods completely unprovoked. Of course someone is going to get offended. Wouldn't [I]you[/I] get upset and defensive if someone started shitting on YOUR building methods? Building with PAC doesn't even really propose a severe problem on anything. Lag? Turn off PAC! Is someone trying to have a tank battle with a tank with a PAC body? Yeah that's shitty, but if there isn't a specific rule against it, change that and then kick them! But if neither of those are a problem like if someone is just making stuff for themselves not to fight with, then shut up and let them be! Simple as! There's no need to whine and bitch at something you don't like, especially if you refuse to fix that problem when you easily can without plain up insulting and harassing people. Rant over, but that's shit that gets me mad in Garry's Mod.[/QUOTE] and PAC argument aside you missed the point even when it was edited in

when people play show and tell with huge dupes that probably arent theirs and paste lag the server every 15 seconds

Every loading screen I've ever seen sold looks exactly the same, bar one or two exceptions

[QUOTE=eurocracy;47256749]and PAC argument aside you missed the point even when it was edited in[/QUOTE] I knew what the point was, but the original statement gave me a reason to post what got me mad in Garry's Mod. Isn't that what the thread is for? I would have posted similar without quoting him directly, but then people would've been jumping on me for passive-aggressive posting instead. Can't win here.

[QUOTE=eurocracy;47256749]Because administrators don't pay so that you can be dicks to them. In every community I've had admin powers in, or owned, be it GMod, Counterstrike, minecraft, forums, TF2, DoD:S, etc, the most annoying people are the ones that think it's a democracy. Admins aren't police in a country, they're security in a building you don't have exclusive rights to be in, causing problems with them means you deserve everything you get.[/QUOTE] Yeah but it's pretty fucking irritating to find administrator who behave like dicks/fail to do their jobs properly and when called out for it decide to lash out, citing disrespect, whilst actually doing nothing about the issue itself.

[QUOTE=GordonZombie;47257967]Yeah but it's pretty fucking irritating to find administrator who behave like dicks/fail to do their jobs properly and when called out for it decide to lash out, citing disrespect, whilst actually doing nothing about the issue itself.[/QUOTE] The complaint wasn't about an admin not doing anything, it was calling the admin a noob and claiming free speech If you don't like the admin well then shucks better find another server. It's absolutely flabbergasting how people expect admins to intervene at times though, usually they get called dicks when they try keeping out of drama between xyz players. And then the complaints often arise that they're just using their powers at people who report things when the reality is that the average gmod player whining tends to be screaming "admin ban him" and calling the admins faggots when they don't. It's the server equivalent of june 2013 rust members acting like facepunch's administration is literally the third reich for not doing what they think it should do. This level of admin complaint drama made me and other communities have to make sure admins were console dumping every time they left game or banned someone because otherwise you'd get people bandwagonning against said admin because they felt they'd been wronged in much the same way. Unless I see someone posting a video/condump I have to assume the admin's side in this because they do a job that comes with unrealistic expectations and have to deal with all the drama that comes with it. [QUOTE=Hailedbean;47256750]when people play show and tell with huge dupes that probably arent theirs and paste lag the server every 15 seconds[/QUOTE] I used to do this all the time with my laggy ass 800 prop contraptions, albeit they were actually mine. Having to be the annoying special snowflake that asks the admins to raise my proplimit to 1000 and resulting in the server crashing. Totally guilty :v:

[QUOTE=eurocracy;47258369] I used to do this all the time with my laggy ass 800 prop contraptions, albeit they were actually mine. Having to be the annoying special snowflake that asks the admins to raise my proplimit to 1000 and resulting in the server crashing. Totally guilty :v:[/QUOTE] I build prop engines vehicles, cars, trains, planes etc where most servers limit you to 10 thrusters. I'm always like "but you don't want to see my W24?"

These... things you call saves... useless fnaf workshop shit. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IUEVX7F.png[/IMG] Speaking of FNaf. There is FNaF servers. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8QcZbGW.png[/IMG] These servers have snobby and annoying little kids. They're a nuisance to be with. And when they see some spooky robot they go, "OMG!!!!! FOXY!!!!o!o!o!!111ONENENENENENE"

[QUOTE=gman5459;47267008]These... things you call saves... useless fnaf workshop shit. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IUEVX7F.png[/MG] Speaking of FNaf. There is FNaF servers. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8QcZbGW.png[/MG] These servers have snobby and annoying little kids. They're a nuisance to be with. And when they see some spooky robot they go, "OMG!!!!! FOXY!!!!o!o!o!!111ONENENENENENE"[/QUOTE] This so much. I hate the useless FNAF crap (which is usually just I6NIS's stuff resubmitted) filling the workshop up. The worst part is that the 0 stars from people who care about quality are usually overwhelmed by the guys who just rate 5 on everything they see.

[QUOTE=godzirra;47270246]The worst part is that the 0 stars from people who care about quality are usually overwhelmed by the guys who just rate 5 on everything they see.[/QUOTE] You don't seem to understand how the workshop rating system works. You don't rate a submission by amount of stars, you rate it with thumbs up/down. Then the website (once it has enough ratings) calculates that into a number from 0-5. Those addons have 5 stars because more people are rating up then down. Honestly, anyone who uses stars as a rating nowadays should rethink their life. People will almost always either rate 5 stars or rate 1 star. It's much better to have a like/dislike system that then calculates that into a number out of 5.

Yeah I'm not even going to pretend I understand quite what this guy wants me to do: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Ut1hJtF.png[/IMG] I think he wants me to say who made the map, but I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I made the map.

[QUOTE=gman5459;47267008]These... things you call saves... useless fnaf workshop shit. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IUEVX7F.png[/IMG] Speaking of FNaf. There is FNaF servers. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8QcZbGW.png[/IMG] These servers have snobby and annoying little kids. They're a nuisance to be with. And when they see some spooky robot they go, "OMG!!!!! FOXY!!!!o!o!o!!111ONENENENENENE"[/QUOTE] I actually wrote a few FNAF things for scriptfodder people in my time, pause menus, gamemode bases, HUDs, etc. I hate them all with a passion, but the kids who think this stuff is good pay really god money, so I aren't complaining. [editline]7th March 2015[/editline] Oh look, someone took credit for what I did: [url]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=390135280[/url] [url]http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=389172367[/url]

People who try to tell me how to distribute my addons so their server can be more unique. Censored his name cause he has his gaming site in the name [quote] 4:48 PM - Exho: The phone is mostly stable if you want to throw it on your server or something to test 4:49 PM - Exho: Better for you to find errors than workshop folkl 4:49 PM - [REDACTED]: Dont put it on workshop 4:49 PM - [REDACTED]: plz 4:49 PM - [REDACTED]: Seriously 4:49 PM - Exho: Why 4:50 PM - [REDACTED]: I'm gonna find bugs with Neth 4:50 PM - [REDACTED]: And then you will put it on scriptfodder maybe 4:50 PM - Exho: Why would I do that 4:50 PM - Exho: ? 4:51 PM - [REDACTED]: Exho 4:51 PM - [REDACTED]: I know you are a generous person 4:51 PM - [REDACTED]: But ez money = ez money = nutella = happy 4:51 PM - [REDACTED]: darn 4:52 PM - Exho: I'm confused as to why you would ask me to put it on Scriptfodder though 4:52 PM - Exho: That doesn't make sense for someone to tell me to hide my content behind a paywal 4:53 PM - [REDACTED]: Hmm 4:53 PM - [REDACTED]: Well 4:53 PM - [REDACTED]: This is premium content 4:53 PM - [REDACTED]: Me as a server owner personally don't want over 4000 kids darkrp servers to have premium content like this 4:53 PM - [REDACTED]: Sorry for bothering 4:55 PM - Exho: Because you want yours to be special right because you would have bought it? 4:56 PM - [REDACTED]: Well... 4:56 PM - [REDACTED]: I'm just trying to say 4:57 PM - [REDACTED]: that the rPhone is good 4:57 PM - [REDACTED]: and has over 400+ boughts 4:57 PM - [REDACTED]: You could have over hundreads too. 4:57 PM - Exho: But what do you have to gain from it being private :p 4:58 PM - Exho: I'm not really interested in making money from it and having it used by ~30 servers like my other addons 4:59 PM - [REDACTED]: Well Exho 4:59 PM - [REDACTED]: ;-; 4:59 PM - [REDACTED]: Just please. 4:59 PM - [REDACTED]: Don't let kids servers being amazing with that 4:59 PM - [REDACTED]: just plz 5:02 PM - Exho: Its going to be free 5:02 PM - Exho: So everyone who wants to use it, can 5:03 PM - [REDACTED]: but 5:03 PM - [REDACTED]: on facepunch 5:03 PM - [REDACTED]: not on workshop xD 5:03 PM - Exho: Nahhh 5:03 PM - [REDACTED]: Exho ; - ; 5:03 PM - [REDACTED]: plz 5:04 PM - [REDACTED]: Its your choice 5:04 PM - [REDACTED]: But there is one server 5:04 PM - [REDACTED]: with leaked content 5:04 PM - [REDACTED]: and noone can send dmca on them 5:04 PM - [REDACTED]: Because hidden host... 5:04 PM - [REDACTED]: Can you only block their ip from using it if its possible> 5:04 PM - [REDACTED]: Neth can prove it 5:05 PM - Exho: I dont use IPs for anything 5:05 PM - Exho: Why would it even matter with regards to this? Their leaked content and my phone are two entirely seperate matters [/quote]

[QUOTE=Exho;47277917]People who try to tell me how to distribute my addons so their server can be more unique. Censored his name cause he has his gaming site in the name[/QUOTE] Your patience amazes me. What pisses me off are detailed bug reports like these: [QUOTE]It doesn't work.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure what's more frustrating, people who are really vague or those who clearly don't fucking read the description or comments before asking for help Someone kept asking me questions where every answer was literally 'yes, it says that' I honestly got to the point where I was considering giving them their money back simply because I did not want to deal with that them anymore

[QUOTE=_FR_Starfox64;47280719] What pisses me off are detailed bug reports like these:[/QUOTE] Thats why I was going to have him test as well. You cant get any good bug reports on the workshop [editline]8th March 2015[/editline] Oh and the guy named "TheCodingBoss" in developer discussion. Besides the fact that his name is extremely arrogant, he isnt even that good of a coder. He had errors because he mispelled "ply" as "play". I dont pick on new coders but with a name like that he is asking for it

Sigh.. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Qs0UvGl.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=_FR_Starfox64;47280719]Your patience amazes me. What pisses me off are detailed bug reports like these:[/QUOTE] Your addon is giving me an error. I'm not telling you what it is or how I got it, just fix it please.

[QUOTE=_FR_Starfox64;47280719]What pisses me off are detailed bug reports like these:[/QUOTE] [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/152440973/AHHHHHHHHHHHHH.PNG[/img] When I asked which one, he didn't respond. Although not all bug reports I have gotton were bad. I had this one guy add me asking me to help him because my addon apparently crashed his game and he couldn't load It anymore. We tried everything but no avail. I wish everyone was like that. Other than the fact that I tried to tell him to make a thread here and he didn't. But he was playing gmod again eventually so I guess he fixed it. (truth be told I almost didn't add him because his profile was FNAF'd to hell)

People physgunning my shit.

[QUOTE=buu342;47281807]Your addon is giving me an error. I'm not telling you what it is or how I got it, just fix it please.[/QUOTE] It may not even be your addon, I just got this error and thought you should know

Well heres a look at the [I]dark[/I] side of the Garry's Mod community [url]http://steamcommunity.com/app/4000/discussions/1/[/url]

[QUOTE=Exho;47280801] Oh and the guy named "TheCodingBoss" in developer discussion. Besides the fact that his name is extremely arrogant, he isnt even that good of a coder. He had errors because he mispelled "ply" as "play". I dont pick on new coders but with a name like that he is asking for it[/QUOTE] He's not new, he's been around for a while, every time he made a help thread I would help him and question his account, apparently it was his brothers account... He pissed me off a lot and I spoon fed him a lot, back in the day when I was active anyway.