[QUOTE=RediL;49678863]You answer to everything is to upgrade his stuff to business ranges etc. That will cost more than a server in a datacenter, so whats the point in having it home then? He asked for other options than hosting at home too if you read his first post.
I'm into new networking stuff and general computer hardware too. I have a fiber connection directly to my house which have a dual 10Gbit/s line. (Which I only can get if I pay for a business connection). So instead I have a 500/500 Mbit/s connection. But sure I have no idea where internet is going nowdays. I was 15 like him acually when I wanted to do this stuff at home, it was very exciting acually. But as you have to deal with it and get more busy with other things you will find it to be better to simply have it hosted by a provider.
Lastly no his server will NOT be viewable in the serverlist from anywhere in the world no matter how good routing you have...
I couldn't care less if he bought a server and put it in his home, It's not really my problem. But instead of just supporting it like you want it can be good to put both negative and positive things with it. You told him the positive stuff and I told him the negative and now he got some good arguments to read and can decide himself what sounds better.[/QUOTE]
Like I've said in multiple cases, in the long-run he will save more money.
I have also gone both routes of providing servers through hosts and from my home and have never had any of the problems you've stated, but hey, maybe I just got lucky.
If a preference is needed, I prefer hosing off of a hosts Virtual Box that can run multiple servers and only cost me a measly $80 a month without the hassle of the upkeep of a personal server box at my house. I have met people that believe the complete opposite and would rather host from their house.
I was telling him everything that hosting from his home would mostly require and enlighten him on it. But instead of giving him a one sided answer I told him he should do as he pleases and what I recommended for his question about hosting from home.
Anyways, baebaeron, there are a vast amount of pros and cons to hosting from your house and there are a vast amount of pros and cons to using a host as well. It's all based on preference and what you want to do; I highly suggest doing your own research as well, not to push you away from our answers but to avoid biased answers and opinions. Always keep an open mind and consider the alternatives, it may save your time.
Thank you all for input
I would appreciate input from diffrent people :)
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49678972]Thank you all for input
I would appreciate input from diffrent people
Is the intel xeon e3-1220 v2 a good cpu?
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49679903][QUOTE=baebaeron;49678972]Thank you all for input
I would appreciate input from diffrent people
Is the intel xeon e3-1220 v2 a good cpu?[/QUOTE]
It's decent.
[QUOTE=RediL;49680572][QUOTE=baebaeron;49679903]
It's decent.[/QUOTE]
Would there be a big improvement if I use a 120 gb ssd instead of a 7.2k 160gb hdd?
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49681055][QUOTE=RediL;49680572]
Would there be a big improvement if I use a 120 gb ssd instead of a 7.2k 160gb hdd?[/QUOTE]
Not for a couple gmod servers.
You can also host from home on your residential ISP. Never had any issues with verizon or comcast and if they do have an issue with it then they'll ask you to stop or upgrade to a business connection.
Yes it is against most ISPs TOS. However they rarely if ever enforce said TOS and unless you're being attacked they probably won't even notice.
I have no idea why RediL is so against hosting from home. I hosted from home from 2006 to 2012 on a residential ISP with zero issues with full servers. You'll appear on the server list just fine if you port forward correctly.
I again want to stress that the odds of you being DDoSed on a 32 slot TTT server are slim to none if you don't antagonize your players.
[url]http://hosthatch.com[/url]
$14 / month ssd server will host 2 servers easily (from experience, the $8 / 3 month ran 8 slot TTT fine, 66 tick)
[QUOTE=meharryp;49683215][url]http://hosthatch.com[/url]
$14 / month ssd server will host 2 servers easily (from experience, the $8 / 3 month ran 8 slot TTT fine, 66 tick)[/QUOTE]
Thanks for input
[editline]6th February 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=darksoul69;49682361][QUOTE=baebaeron;49681055]
Not for a couple gmod servers.
You can also host from home on your residential ISP. Never had any issues with verizon or comcast and if they do have an issue with it then they'll ask you to stop or upgrade to a business connection.
Yes it is against most ISPs TOS. However they rarely if ever enforce said TOS and unless you're being attacked they probably won't even notice.
I have no idea why RediL is so against hosting from home. I hosted from home from 2006 to 2012 on a residential ISP with zero issues with full servers. You'll appear on the server list just fine if you port forward correctly.
I again want to stress that the odds of you being DDoSed on a 32 slot TTT server are slim to none if you don't antagonize your players.[/QUOTE]
Also, how much hardrive space do I need if I were to host 1 death run, ttt, jailbreak and prophunt at the same time?
Gmod server files alone are around 5GB each, so I doubt you will need anything more than a 120GB HDD.
[QUOTE=Mrkrabz;49683638]Gmod server files alone are around 5GB each, so I doubt you will need anything more than a 120GB HDD.[/QUOTE]
Thx for input!
Let's say I buy a server and put it at a colocation center. How would I install a control panel on it and run more then 1 srcds, Also what os should I use for it?
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[QUOTE=baebaeron;49683670]Thx for input!
Let's say I buy a server and put it at a colocation center. How would I install a control panel on it and run more then 1 srcds, Also what os should I use for it?[/QUOTE]
Honestly, the whole own server home hosting thing will be a really bad decision if you have not even had experience remote controlling servers at actual datacenters... It will be much more work/money than it is worth.
I would recommend that you go to an actual host such as OVH (an example) and let them deal with the hosting and you deal with the actual game server side of stuff/OS configuration.
As for choice of operating systems, from personal experience, if you really want an easy run and get a bit scared off with the whole linux no GUI display thing then go with windows server R2 2012 but there are plenty of tutorials all over youtube if you feel adventurous with Linux.
Hope I helped, I can answer more in-depth specific questions if need be.
[QUOTE=wamo;49685468]Honestly, the whole own server home hosting thing will be a really bad decision if you have not even had experience remote controlling servers at actual datacenters... It will be much more work/money than it is worth.
I would recommend that you go to an actual host such as OVH (an example) and let them deal with the hosting and you deal with the actual game server side of stuff/OS configuration.
As for choice of operating systems, from personal experience, if you really want an easy run and get a bit scared off with the whole linux no GUI display thing then go with windows server R2 2012 but there are plenty of tutorials all over youtube if you feel adventurous with Linux.
Hope I helped, I can answer more in-depth specific questions if need be.[/QUOTE]
Thanks man!
If I do just leave the server in a data center I can control it through a ftp browser like filezilla. (If installing an ftp is easy) il be able to upload and delete files.
Also I'm looking to spend under $15 for an os that is not Linux and light on the hardware
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49685777]Thanks man!
If I do just leave the server in a data center I can control it through a ftp browser like filezilla. (If installing an ftp is easy) il be able to upload and delete files.
Also I'm looking to spend under $15 for an os that is not Linux and light on the hardware[/QUOTE]
You're going to struggle then, nothing is really bad or difficult with Linux, most issues can just be a simple case of copy & pasting the error into google as thousands of people have gone through what you are going through. A more specific OS variant of Linux I would recommend would be Ubuntu 14.04 LTS as it is simple and supported for a while (for 5 years I THINK). I would also like to add that your FTP worries can be put to rest because it has an FTP protocal built in and it would be simple as you entering the ip and the user and password for your Linux machine into FileZilla.
[QUOTE=wamo;49686004]You're going to struggle then, nothing is really bad or difficult with Linux, most issues can just be a simple case of copy & pasting the error into google as thousands of people have gone through what you are going through. A more specific OS variant of Linux I would recommend would be Ubuntu 14.04 LTS as it is simple and supported for a while (for 5 years I THINK). I would also like to add that your FTP worries can be put to rest because it has an FTP protocal built in and it would be simple as you entering the ip and the user and password for your Linux machine into FileZilla.[/QUOTE]
Interesting. I have heard that linux it lighter on hardware too. I will consider that.
I will not mind the work because I'm planning on launching my game community in the summer.
Can you recomendations any colocation centers that are cheap or cheap dedicated hardware to buy?
Edit: I think I might have misunderstood you with the remote controlling server thing
Thank you once again
I encourage others to leave their opinion too
[QUOTE=darksoul69;49675413]Buy a [URL="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-1U-Server-X8SIE-F-Xeon-X3460-2-8ghz-Quad-Core-8gb-80gb-/231682181910?hash=item35f1558b16:g:8LgAAOSwPgxVSTXW"]X3460 1U[/URL] on ebay for $100-$200 and host it from your house. The X3460 should be OK for 32 slots (might need 33 tick).
Or go the extra mile and colocate it at datashack or joes datacenter for $50/month. The X3460 is a quad core CPU so you should be able to run 4 or so servers just fine at 33 tick / 32 slots.
Or rent a VPS from ramnode for $5/month.[/QUOTE]
No offence but why would a home user want a rackmount server. A desktop machine would be no different unless he wants to mount something in a rack. Most rackmount servers are more expensive (or cheaper if they have 20,000 hours on them already and are on the verge of death), noisier, bigger power consumers and more complicated to customise for somebody who it seems has very little clue about what they are doing.
You want an OS for under $15 dollars????? Use linux or buy windows server if you are running on a server style machine!
My final opinion: It does not seem you are very experienced. Colocation is often very expensive (the base fee is often just the start with extra fees for machine with higher power requirements, cough cough old machines, and the bandwidth often isnt the cheapest especially here in the UK where I live) and running your own machine will be complicated to start with. If you simply go through somebody like serenity for example they will support you if something goes wrong.
[QUOTE=Strideynet;49689402]No offence but why would a home user want a rackmount server. A desktop machine would be no different unless he wants to mount something in a rack. Most rackmount servers are more expensive (or cheaper if they have 20,000 hours on them already and are on the verge of death), noisier, bigger power consumers and more complicated to customise for somebody who it seems has very little clue about what they are doing.
You want an OS for under $15 dollars????? Use linux or buy windows server if you are running on a server style machine!
My final opinion: It does not seem you are very experienced. Colocation is often very expensive (the base fee is often just the start with extra fees for machine with higher power requirements, cough cough old machines, and the bandwidth often isnt the cheapest especially here in the UK where I live) and running your own machine will be complicated to start with. If you simply go through somebody like serenity for example they will support you if something goes wrong.[/QUOTE]
It's still computer hardware. The OP can get noiseless fans or remove the top cover, get an active CPU cooler and remove the fans entirely. Heck, he can remove the entire setup from the chassis if he wanted to and put it on a cardboard box. The whole point of getting a $59.99 setup is that its cheap for the OP and if things don't pan out then he won't have to blow a ton of money.
Most colocation providers offer 2A @ 120V for one server in the base fees. The X3460 uses less then 2A @ 120V power. I don't expect the op to colocate with a X3460 and that was just a suggestion.
It's not like the op is renting a rack which is quite different from colocating one server.
And the OP does live in the US so even if bandwidth is expensive for you in the UK it won't be for the OP.
Minimum cpu requirements for the following?:
Darkrp 50 slot
TTT 64 slot
Deathrun 50 slot
Deathrun 75 slot
Prophunt 40 slot
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49692378]Minimum cpu requirements for the following?:
Darkrp 50 slot
TTT 64 slot
Deathrun 50 slot
Deathrun 75 slot
Prophunt 40 slot[/QUOTE]
Depends on your standards. I would go with a 4790k but you are not going to fill all those servers instantly anyways.
[QUOTE=RediL;49692647]Depends on your standards. I would go with a 4790k but you are not going to fill all those servers instantly anyways.[/QUOTE]
What is max amount of slots I can have with a xeon 1220 v2 on those 4 gamemodes
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49692378]Minimum cpu requirements for the following?:
Darkrp 50 slot
TTT 64 slot
Deathrun 50 slot
Deathrun 75 slot
Prophunt 40 slot[/QUOTE]
Alrighty. So we've gone from 32 slot TTT to massive community that is non-existant.
4790k would be your best option for anything above 80 slots. E3-1220 v2 would struggle with what you listed. Or you could wait for the (allegedly) 5.1Ghz [URL="http://wccftech.com/intel-rumored-launch-51-ghz-xeon-e52602-v4-processor-broadwellep-lineup-features-165w-tdp/"]E5-2602 V4[/URL] quad core CPU if you can manage to get one.
[QUOTE=darksoul69;49694203]Alrighty. So we've gone from 32 slot TTT to massive community that is non-existant.
4790k would be your best option for anything above 80 slots. E3-1220 v2 would struggle with what you listed. Or you could wait for the (allegedly) 5.1Ghz [URL="http://wccftech.com/intel-rumored-launch-51-ghz-xeon-e52602-v4-processor-broadwellep-lineup-features-165w-tdp/"]E5-2602 V4[/URL] quad core CPU if you can manage to get one.[/QUOTE]
I just realized I worded it wrong (again) I was trying to say how many slots cold I run for each gamemode by suggesting some numbers. If you could maybe re answer the question I just explained that would be cool. And like linus tech would say, HOLY BALLS a cpu with a stock speak of 5.1ghz
P.s. Did you get my pm?
Thread open for all inputs
[editline]7th February 2016[/editline]
Oh and for the 64 slot ttt idea I just saw the video you had uploaded on youtube.
Also how would I run more then 1 srcds at the same time and how could I set commends for the server to reboot at a certain time?
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49698138]Also how would I run more then 1 srcds at the same time and how could I set commends for the server to reboot at a certain time?[/QUOTE]
Facepunch is not here to spoonfeed you. Try to google first.
[QUOTE=RediL;49704099]Facepunch is not here to spoonfeed you. Try to google first.[/QUOTE]
I already did and nothing helpful apeared
[QUOTE=baebaeron;49706969]I already did and nothing helpful apeared[/QUOTE]
Have you tried doing it first? It's very simple. You create 2 servers then the only thing you do is to change the port. Setting up scheduled tasks can be found online, here is an example for ubuntu: [url]http://www.howtogeek.com/101288/how-to-schedule-tasks-on-linux-an-introduction-to-crontab-files/[/url]
There are many threads on facepunch that gives you your answers, [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1287076[/url]
[QUOTE=RediL;49707311]Have you tried doing it first? It's very simple. You create 2 servers then the only thing you do is to change the port. Setting up scheduled tasks can be found online, here is an example for ubuntu: [url]http://www.howtogeek.com/101288/how-to-schedule-tasks-on-linux-an-introduction-to-crontab-files/[/url]
There are many threads on facepunch that gives you your answers, [url]https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1287076[/url][/QUOTE]
Thank you for the reply
Cloud Hosting vs Hosting services?
I am not sure which is better and what the majority of communities use.
I am really confused about these two subjects if someone could explain them to me.
OP. If you want to host multiple srcds and manage them easy you could use OPEN GAMEPANEL (OGP). Its a web based gamepanel where you can set up different cron jobs (etc restart your server every hour). You will require linux OS and luckily its very easy to learn. (I use latest debian)
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