Redirect / Fake Server Report Megathread - ALL FAKE SERVERS POSTS GO HERE - Garry's Mod

[QUOTE=Hezzy;52075790]I've negotiated with Superior Servers (namely aStonedPenguin) and they have agreed to cease using redirect servers in any shape or form. Consequently, their main server is no longer blacklisted. Please continue to report fake / redirect servers in this thread and FP will do what they can to address the issue.[/QUOTE] Admirable, good work!

god the fake server stuff is hilarious. Source engine is so shitty

Lol i look into my console and i just see; [url]https://pastebin.com/zE01P02P[/url]

Make fun of it all you want... remember that there is a right way and a wrong way to get a message to the devs. This is the wrong way. [sp]Regardless of effectiveness [/sp]

A friend showed this to me (his screenshot) It shows superior up with 116 people on with only 36 ping (he also lives in Canada not sure if that makes a difference or not) but he didn't want to get witch hunted by any of the SuperiorServers players so I decided to upload it. Not saying anything about anything but 36 ping with 116 players is very suspicious. [IMG]https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwFwVsOhCAMAMC7cADagvi6DcEGNWoJrV9m774zn3v75Va3mzVdAbZDi_TNq0nPlX0VqRfndqgvckM2y2W_-TGFMKeRaKI4DWkhmgkhIg4xICKNhIGWFEHfxp392ar7_QHfKiIy.nR2MWoz02XcIhqB3BF6EhW3XhDs?width=841&height=474[/IMG]

[QUOTE=GarboLardo;52078017]A friend showed this to me (his screenshot) It shows superior up with 116 people on with only 36 ping (he also lives in Canada not sure if that makes a difference or not) but he didn't want to get witch hunted by any of the SuperiorServers players so I decided to upload it. Not saying anything about anything but 36 ping with 116 players is very suspicious. [IMG]https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwFwVsOhCAMAMC7cADagvi6DcEGNWoJrV9m774zn3v75Va3mzVdAbZDi_TNq0nPlX0VqRfndqgvckM2y2W_-TGFMKeRaKI4DWkhmgkhIg4xICKNhIGWFEHfxp392ar7_QHfKiIy.nR2MWoz02XcIhqB3BF6EhW3XhDs?width=841&height=474[/IMG][/QUOTE] That's because I think the server is actually in Canada, not sure. Still reasonable, and only 1 server visible.

[QUOTE=GarboLardo;52078017]A friend showed this to me (his screenshot) It shows superior up with 116 people on with only 36 ping (he also lives in Canada not sure if that makes a difference or not) but he didn't want to get witch hunted by any of the SuperiorServers players so I decided to upload it. Not saying anything about anything but 36 ping with 116 players is very suspicious. [IMG]https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwFwVsOhCAMAMC7cADagvi6DcEGNWoJrV9m774zn3v75Va3mzVdAbZDi_TNq0nPlX0VqRfndqgvckM2y2W_-TGFMKeRaKI4DWkhmgkhIg4xICKNhIGWFEHfxp392ar7_QHfKiIy.nR2MWoz02XcIhqB3BF6EhW3XhDs?width=841&height=474[/IMG][/QUOTE] Welcome to FP. That's our real server listing. The server's in Montreal.

Would having 2 servers for the one server be the same as a re direct? I have been considering doing an event server recently for my Clone Wars. Which would entail the main server that is permanently on our venator map and another server for our events. Reason being for this is we make our players wait so long whilst spawning props, setting up characters, etc etc. Its only a thought and both servers would stay in MY country and not be ping spoofed or any player spoofing. Just curious if this is ok?

[QUOTE=Stooge2;52078425]Would having 2 servers for the one server be the same as a re direct? I have been considering doing an event server recently for my Clone Wars. Which would entail the main server that is permanently on our venator map and another server for our events. Reason being for this is we make our players wait so long whilst spawning props, setting up characters, etc etc. Its only a thought and both servers would stay in MY country and not be ping spoofed or any player spoofing. Just curious if this is ok?[/QUOTE] A redirect would be changing the server the player is playing on without there knowledge and consent. From what you describe there is nothing wrong with what you plan to do :)

i'm probably posting in the wrong thread, but would you consider this a fake server? lately there's been a huuuuge listing of servers that say "robat pls" and are capped at 255. i know those are fake servers, but i don't know where to report it.

[QUOTE=Weeaboo;52079159]i'm probably posting in the wrong thread, but would you consider this a fake server? lately there's been a huuuuge listing of servers that say "robat pls" and are capped at 255. i know those are fake servers, but i don't know where to report it.[/QUOTE] This is the place and we are aware of it, post IP's and screenshots of offending servers. [editline]9th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Stooge2;52078425]Would having 2 servers for the one server be the same as a re direct? I have been considering doing an event server recently for my Clone Wars. Which would entail the main server that is permanently on our venator map and another server for our events. Reason being for this is we make our players wait so long whilst spawning props, setting up characters, etc etc. Its only a thought and both servers would stay in MY country and not be ping spoofed or any player spoofing. Just curious if this is ok?[/QUOTE] That's perfectly fine. An event server is fine because you are actually hosting different content. If it was against the rules, then so would dev servers.

[QUOTE=Stooge2;52078425]snip[/QUOTE] yeah its fine, as long as the server is simulating and running gmod locally.

The clearest we can make it is this: as long are never 2 or more listings that bring you to playing [b]in the same world with the same players[/b], then it's okay. This description, if it had been stated before, would have presumably prevented this whole mess.

[IMG]http://img.blueduck.pw/i/stow9.png[/IMG] Nice

At the end of the day it only matters what the players do (and dev team, obviously). We control how much income these servers generate. We control how much population the servers receive. However, there's no way we can communicate with every Garry's Mod player and have them "boycott" the [u]malicious[/u] owners. Most of the Garry's Mod players aren't even registered on any Garry's Mod community forums. About half of the players (who aren't affected directly) don't even care about this whole incident. Superior Servers (an example) worked hard to get where they're at. However, aStonedPenguin doesn't even deserve the right to host a server when he has been extremely malicious. On top of all that, he was already steadily reaching 100+ players constantly before he started doing this. Why does he need more? I'm glad he stopped, but there's still tons out there that are doing this exact thing. I'll be sure to report [i]any[/i] I find.

Out of pure interest, who does the "DDoS is illegal u kno" etc Servers? We should contact that guy TBH.

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Any specific reason my military server is being targeted with the fake servers using my name lol? [url]https://gyazo.com/50f543ab483530aad88f1ba2be6d28c0[/url] My real servers IP is 192.99.239.50:27015 I have no idea what's going on. edit: Rather odd that my server is the only one being targeted, and was winning in gametracker ranking, was ranked #2, I think someone is trying to slow me down :) Can we please step on gas for some type of patch for this already? [editline]9th April 2017[/editline] More information on the topic, snagged a screenshot [IMG]https://i.gyazo.com/e8156a775e4fbbdd25534972964b64c6.png[/IMG] Also the ips used are as shown in the image 45.55.63.4:25xxx

I recommend that somebody higher up who is trying to resolve the issue attempts to filter servers by the gmsindex that is sent to the Valve Master Server. The fake servers all have an "invalid" or a "different" gmsindex than valid Garry's Mod servers. Here is an example: Valid Server (gmsindex is set to 65534 which is default): [url]http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=149.56.67.176:27015[/url] Random Invalid Spam Servers (gmsindex is set to 1-6): [url]http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=45.77.1.27:10069[/url] [url]http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=45.77.1.27:10050[/url] [url]http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=45.77.1.27:45.77.1.27:10097[/url] You could always also just block the old steam API and just get done with it already.. Blacklisting the servers by IP or server name has clearly shown to be a stupid and inconsistent way to fix the issue.

So now these fake servers are being used for malicious intent and attacking other servers. Now who could possibly benefit from that?

[QUOTE=ertug20;52081618]I recommend that somebody higher up who is trying to resolve the issue attempts to filter servers by the gmsindex that is sent to the Valve Master Server. The fake servers all have an "invalid" or a "different" gmsindex than valid Garry's Mod servers. Here is an example: Valid Server (gmsindex is set to 65534 which is default): [url]http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=149.56.67.176:27015[/url] Random Invalid Spam Servers (gmsindex is set to 1-6): [url]http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=45.77.1.27:10069[/url] [url]http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=45.77.1.27:10050[/url] [url]http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=45.77.1.27:45.77.1.27:10097[/url] You could always also just block the old steam API and just get done with it already.. Blacklisting the servers by IP or server name has clearly shown to be a stupid and inconsistent way to fix the issue.[/QUOTE] From what I can see, it's possible to do it without changing that value.

[QUOTE=The Commander;52081637]So now these fake servers are being used for malicious intent and attacking other servers. Now who could possibly benefit from that?[/QUOTE] At this point, the fake servers are being used to "troll" or "convey a message" and needs to be resolved already. [editline]9th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Mrkrabz;52081643]From what I can see, it's possible to do it without changing that value.[/QUOTE] That is correct but clearly, whomever is doing it is either using the [B]old and deprecated non-steamworks based API[/B] which gives less control for parameters or has no idea what they're doing enough to match the real servers completely. Either way, it shouldn't be rocket science to resolve the issue and certainly should have been resolved by now with some cooperative brainstorming on FP's behalf.

It's happening now to ZARP Gaming, their real IP is 94.23.180.168:27015 Don't want them to get blacklisted :godzing: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/tUsxWLe.png[/IMG]

[URL="https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/89352106333876359/C400BB70C43B0546E0EFAEDA169DBAA31D068E94/"]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/89352106333876359/C400BB70C43B0546E0EFAEDA169DBAA31D068E94/[/URL] I can see it's showing Superior Servers now.

[t]https://jelman.me/sharex/2017-04-10_00-25-52.png[/t] love me some danktown Ip being used is 45.55.63.4

Now they've moved to Prop Hunt servers [URL="https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/89352106333903330/F2A4AEAF9B60E8FF4B0FB00C6CC41BD94066E356/"]https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/89352106333903330/F2A4AEAF9B60E8FF4B0FB00C6CC41BD94066E356/[/URL] So it seems that who ever is doing it is just targeting servers to troll and get a point across as ertug said earlier. I didn't quite know what Redirect Servers was before now. We've just stuck to our small little bubble that is JvS and haven't gone out much more. But I can say, in my opinion, Redirect servers are a little unfair to other servers and players. Lying is never a good thing, regardless of how harmful it is. In the end though, my opinion doesn't quite matter. I've only been a server owner for a little less than a year and haven't experienced half of the things others have seen. [Edit] Removed the image and added a link. It was too large.

[QUOTE=The Commander;52081637]So now these fake servers are being used for malicious intent and attacking other servers. Now who could possibly benefit from that?[/QUOTE] an asshole Weird, the fake servers are being hosting with the same IP address. WhoIS search for those it might be useful to: [url]https://pastebin.com/raw/8zqrS6qb[/url]

[QUOTE=Wavie;52082365]an asshole [editline]9th April 2017[/editline] Weird, the fake servers are being hosting with the same IP address.[/QUOTE] Budget trolls are budget trolls. No suprise that they use an affordable VPS provider.

[QUOTE=ertug20;52082414]Budget trolls are budget trolls. No suprise that they use an affordable VPS provider.[/QUOTE] I agree, but it seems like it'd be simple to just blacklist that one IP address. It'd help a bunch of communities out.

[QUOTE=Wavie;52082425]I agree, but it seems like it'd be simple to just blacklist that one IP address. It'd help a bunch of communities out.[/QUOTE] I'm sure they did that a bunch of times. They can easily spin up a new VPS with hourly billing. Not a proper solution.