GMod - Custom Gamemode Releases & Server List! (#1) - Garry's Mod

[QUOTE=Mikey Howell;51115226]Underdone >"RPG"<[/QUOTE] As you already know because you play it, there is a big difference between Underdone RPG and "role play" gamemodes. The two don't even relate or share any similarities. Edit: This clearly looks and plays like DarkRP doesn't it... [media]https://youtu.be/DbWBiiVLnzU[/media]

[QUOTE=Mikey Howell;51115226]Underdone >"RPG"<[/QUOTE] It's more comparable to World of Warcraft than it is to DarkRP.

[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51107011]The only darkrp servers that are truly ground up custom(gamemode and all) & non serious: [URL="https://superiorservers.co"]Site[/URL] [URL="http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/RP.SuperiorServers.co:27015/"][IMG]http://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/RP.SuperiorServers.co:27015/b_560_95_1.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/RP2.SuperiorServers.co:27015/"][IMG]http://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/RP2.SuperiorServers.co:27015/b_560_95_1.png[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE] Would you just fuck off already? No one wants to hear about your shitty C+P community that you made.

[QUOTE=Ivannadie;51117201]Would you just fuck off already? No one wants to hear about your shitty C+P community that you made.[/QUOTE] isnt that quite the presumptive statement

[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51117476]isnt that quite the presumptive statement[/QUOTE] Presumptive? Your community is riddled with scandals. You fake your players, mess with the master server browser to make your server appear first ranked, you set up fake EU FR and AU servers that just redirect to the US one, and you have (previously) created workshop addons that contained malious code that redirected players to your shithole of a community. Your community needs to be blacklisted.

[QUOTE=Ivannadie;51122736]Presumptive? Your community is riddled with scandals. You fake your players, mess with the master server browser to make your server appear first ranked, you set up fake EU FR and AU servers that just redirect to the US one, and you have (previously) created workshop addons that contained malious code that redirected players to your shithole of a community. Your community needs to be blacklisted.[/QUOTE] Holy fucking god can you not. Player counts are [I]not faked.[/I] Join the server and see. Mess with the master server? l0l. It's listed at top because of the player count. The workshop addon was our proprietary map, made [I]for our server[/I], that contained circumvention measures against other server owners from using our content. That issue has been resolved for a while now. I'm not going to touch the mirror servers issue because it's an unneeded can of worms that should honestly stop by now. And please, tell me one thing that's C+P about it.

[QUOTE=Ivannadie;51122736]Presumptive? Your community is riddled with scandals. You fake your players, mess with the master server browser to make your server appear first ranked, you set up fake EU FR and AU servers that just redirect to the US one, and you have (previously) created workshop addons that contained malious code that redirected players to your shithole of a community. Your community needs to be blacklisted.[/QUOTE] oh shit you got me. it even makes fake players run around in game and play. it's a pretty advanced player faking system called real players. [t]https://fi1.es/3Gtx1[/t]

[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51123090]oh shit you got me. it even makes fake players run around in game and play. it's a pretty advanced player faking system called real players. [t]https://fi1.es/3Gtx1[/t][/QUOTE] You used to fuck with the master server browser to change your playercount and ping, you know that. A prime example would be with the mirror servers.

[QUOTE=Ivannadie;51123576]You used to fuck with the master server browser to change your playercount and ping, you know that. A prime example would be with the mirror servers.[/QUOTE] oh no the skid called you out watch out penguoin

their playercount [I]technically[/I] isn't faked in that they use sandboxie to run multiple gmods logged into real steam accounts. There's usually between 10-30 bots active at any given time though it goes up and down based on how many real players are present. They used to use a cruder method of faking playercount but stopped when it got them blacklisted for a week from gametracker

[QUOTE=legendofrobbo;51124271]their playercount [I]technically[/I] isn't faked in that they use sandboxie to run multiple gmods logged into real steam accounts. There's usually between 10-30 bots active at any given time though it goes up and down based on how many real players are present. They used to use a cruder method of faking playercount but stopped when it got them blacklisted for a week from gametracker[/QUOTE] I have never once faked my servers player count, I got blacklisted from gametracker for a short period for having more then 3 afk players as per [URL="http://www.gametracker.com/forums/forum.php?site=1&thread=75205"]their rules[/URL]. We do have about 20 afk players in our second server out of about 220 total players as of posting this because rather then kicking them we move them over as our servers fill to make space. Please keep the baseless accusations coming.

[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51124519]I have never once faked my servers player count, I got blacklisted from gametracker for having more then 3 afk player as per [URL="http://www.gametracker.com/forums/forum.php?site=1&thread=75205"]their rules[/URL]. We do have about 20 afk players in our second server out of about 220 total players as of posting this because rather then kicking them we move them over as our servers fill to make space. Please keep the baseless accusations coming.[/QUOTE] Sadly I still have to agree with ivannadie. Your community has been at the eye of most of the shitstorms that crop up over the past month or two, and despite many people telling you that what you are doing is sleezy (and you even somewhat admitting what you are doing is sleezy by calling it sleezy when someone else does it), you continue to do it. Here's the deal bro. SUP is not using a unique gamemode. Yes, it isn't a carbon copy of DarkRP. Yes, you put some work into it. But it is still DarkRP. IMO Braxnet doesn't belong here either, and any DarkRP, SWRP, or DarkRPClone server/gamemode. Especially your server. I'm not going to go any further into it because I can already hear you calling to your fanatical playerbase to come and talk shit about me like you've done every time so far... just simply understand this. I don't want your servers in this list. Other people don't want your servers in this list. We feel this way because of the drama your community is involved in/directly causes, and the fact that your server in terms of experience is no different from the thousands of other servers on offer, aside from the fact that it is literally overflowing with autistic darkrp players.

[QUOTE=legendofrobbo;51124271]their playercount [I]technically[/I] isn't faked in that they use sandboxie to run multiple gmods logged into real steam accounts. There's usually between 10-30 bots active at any given time though it goes up and down based on how many real players are present. They used to use a cruder method of faking playercount but stopped when it got them blacklisted for a week from gametracker[/QUOTE] oh no the mystical legendofrobbo called u out! Wait who is he again

[QUOTE=Kevlon;51125478]oh no the mystical legendofrobbo called u out! Wait who is he again[/QUOTE] Yeah cos only famous people are allowed to have opinions am I right

[QUOTE=Kevlon;51125478]oh no the mystical legendofrobbo called u out! Wait who is he again[/QUOTE] He's been around for a decent amount of time... Anyways can we keep this a topic about unique gamemodes and not what every fucking thread has been turning into lately, which is about redirect servers.

[QUOTE=Ivannadie;51122736]Presumptive? Your community is riddled with scandals. You fake your players, mess with the master server browser to make your server appear first ranked, you set up fake EU FR and AU servers that just redirect to the US one, and you have (previously) created workshop addons that contained malious code that redirected players to your shithole of a community. Your community needs to be blacklisted.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=KingofBeast;51123002]Holy fucking god can you not. Player counts are [I]not faked.[/I] Join the server and see. Mess with the master server? l0l. It's listed at top because of the player count. The workshop addon was our proprietary map, made [I]for our server[/I], that contained circumvention measures against other server owners from using our content. That issue has been resolved for a while now. I'm not going to touch the mirror servers issue because it's an unneeded can of worms that should honestly stop by now. And please, tell me one thing that's C+P about it.[/QUOTE] I don't mean to derail this anymore -- although with Dimitri banned there's not much that can be done at the moment, but for once I have to defend SUP in this matter. Note that I'm defending the actual community and not its proponents' -- King, Stoned, and Velkon, terrible arguing and abrasive language. All of the accusations regarding the redirect servers and the backdoor in an older version of the map have been true from the present information, but the community has never falsified player count or manipulated the master server. Aero and that other mini-game server were the only two to present knowledge who abused the server browser to fake player and/or server count. Although the redirect servers SUP employed were widely panned as the wrong answer to a valid question (Valve's region locking), the event has been used to falsely throw invalid accusations that place SUP and other popular RP servers as scapegoats. As for the backdoor, the map was never publically available on the workshop and was discovered upon other server owners trying to run the map for themselves without permission. Label the so-called "protection techniques" what you will, but the map was released under a commercial/non-public license for SUP, specifically. The other portion of the buzzwords used to describe not only SUP but a majority of current servers, like "C+P" and "cancer" are starting to become a cancer themselves. The terms had pretty humble origins around the rise of Coderhire since the same addons began to appear on a majority of TTT and DarkRP servers, but they are now grossly overused to describe any and all servers of any popular gamemode with a "I played GMod when the servers were unique and original" mentality. In reality, the servers were either vanilla or used the same addons off garrysmod.org. The most popular communities may have been more unique, many ran by some well-known developers, however, GMod attracts a newer, much more diverse community whose interests lies in what is hot on Youtube, like DarkRP and TTT. With that, many servers try to match what others are doing to get a leg-up on competitors. SUP was no different in the beginning -- it ran a somewhat modified DarkRP with content being added on top, but through years of refinement, it is now a completely originally-developed gamemode with content that other servers aspire to replicate due to the community's top position on the server list. The terms "C+P" and "cancer" are now almost obsolete in the new system of trickle-down idea forging, and just seem like go-to words to scapegoat anything -- even non-Garry's Mod related, that has been plagued with drama. Although I don't often step in on GMod community matters, I feel like the diction used by both parties in the current debate on the direction of the multiplayer community has devolved into mud-slinging and name-calling. Now, that doesn't excuse any server, SUP included from being criticised for using shady or unethical measures to maintain security and appeal, but the accusations should be backed up with clear rationale and logical progression as opposed to throwing every insult at the thread and seeing what sticks. That's how misinformation and humiliation of both sides ignites in every controversial topic. For the record, I don't think SUP nor any server that still goes under the DarkRP category should be on this list.

Does SUP provide any unusual gameplay mechanics? Like Braxnet has a whole economy of player-owned shops that persist through disconnects, appartments, advertising, websites, and some kickass texture-matching walls for building.

[QUOTE=Ott;51126895]Does SUP provide any unusual gameplay mechanics? Like Braxnet has a whole economy of player-owned shops that persist through disconnects, appartments, advertising, websites, and some kickass texture-matching walls for building.[/QUOTE] SUP is DarkRP but a little better and more optimized. BraxnetRP is BraxnetRP.

[QUOTE=StonedPenguin;51124519]I have never once faked my servers player count, I got blacklisted from gametracker for a short period for having more then 3 afk players as per [URL="http://www.gametracker.com/forums/forum.php?site=1&thread=75205"]their rules[/URL]. We do have about 20 afk players in our second server out of about 220 total players as of posting this because rather then kicking them we move them over as our servers fill to make space. Please keep the baseless accusations coming.[/QUOTE] "Baseless Accusations" l0l. Even IF you aren't faking your player counts, you still have all this other shit: How about the fake AU FR and EU servers you set up that just redirect to the US one? Allowing people to come on your server with spoofed steamID's (using garry's ID) and attract more people? (You even created an announcement on your steam group about it!) The fake servers should be enough to get your shit blacklisted.

[QUOTE=Ivannadie;51127639]"Baseless Accusations" l0l. Even IF you aren't faking your player counts, you still have all this other shit: How about the fake AU FR and EU servers you set up that just redirect to the US one? Allowing people to come on your server with spoofed steamID's (using garry's ID) and attract more people? (You even created an announcement on your steam group about it!) The fake servers should be enough to get your shit blacklisted.[/QUOTE] Although I don't support the redirect servers personally, why should the community be blacklisted because of them? They're not falsifying any info -- other than ping debatably, and they have [US] tags. They'll become obsolete when the server browser supports showing servers in all regions, which I believe is already in dev.

This thread is already ruined. Just stop.

Can we shut up about SUP? We've already made it clear, his server doesn't belong on the list. Seeing as this thread's topic is about that list, let's leave it there shall we? His redirect servers and whatnot are for another time...

take it outside ladies

[QUOTE=Kevlon;51125478]oh no the mystical legendofrobbo called u out! Wait who is he again[/QUOTE] more relevant than you

Please, get back on topic or leave, this was about a dude giving his own time to host servers for you people, and all you do is create drama and once told to put it down, you refuse. So im asking you nicely, get back on topic, discuss what the topic was originally about, or shut up, and leave because to be frank, its annoying to see you guys bickering about some community thats unrelated to this thread.

[QUOTE=Azalia;51140258]Please, get back on topic or leave, this was about a dude giving his own time to host servers for you people, and all you do is create drama and once told to put it down, you refuse. So im asking you nicely, get back on topic, discuss what the topic was originally about, or shut up, and leave because to be frank, its annoying to see you guys bickering about some community thats unrelated to this thread.[/QUOTE] Ha, pot calling the kettle black -- everyone was done. You just bumped the thread to try and reignite the drama.

[QUOTE=Azalia;51140258]So im asking you nicely, get back on topic, discuss what the topic was originally about, or shut up, and leave[/QUOTE] that's not actually very nice at all my good sir so I don't believe i will be complying with your request

Do LifePunch's gamemodes count?

[QUOTE=KingofBeast;51141051]Do LifePunch's gamemodes count?[/QUOTE] IIRC aren't they basically just copies of CSS/TF2 gamemodes? I not going to say their servers aren't enjoyable but I don't think they're entirely unique on their own.

[QUOTE=zeaga;51141917]IIRC aren't they basically just copies of CSS/TF2 gamemodes? I not going to say their servers aren't enjoyable but I don't think they're entirely unique on their own.[/QUOTE] Imo anything ground up custom is unique. But it seems most people in this thread would tend to disagree there. Maybe dimitri or someone could remake this with some proper guidelines.