[QUOTE=zerothefallen;44392786]Sometimes I wonder when little 12 year olds will understand marketing :^)[/QUOTE]
You just admitted you released a really big piece of crap and used marketing to try and cover that fact up to scam kids out of their money. Then, as a rebuttal, you said you're not obligated to QAC anymore? That's not addressing the fact that you knowingly released something that sucked in the first place.
I know more about marketing than you do because of two years of marketing and my work as a freelance web designer. It isn't much, but I can easily say that you've got no ethical backbone in your body and are willing to sell your soul to mess with the community.
You're superiority complex is so painful that I really don't have anything to say to you any more. Pretend like you don't care but you're the one that is upset at how people are treating you.
There are three paths you can take - one that leads to you being a programmer worth caring about, one that leads you as far away from this as possible, and one that will always get you stuck in this scenario. The first has already been explained by me - work on your programming and address the community respectfully. The second one can essentially be explained as drop off the face of the earth and never come back. The third one requires you to keep up the good work, pal.
As stated by another user previously, these kinds of topics releasing anti cheats are honestly getting really shitty. While I have my own means of ridding of hackers and the occasional lua bypass, I am always interested in seeing a new anti cheat to see where the gmod community lay in its terms of progression with this sort of thing.
[QUOTE=Leystryku;44390100]Stop being so mad and admit it.
I can do that too, for example [url]http://puu.sh/7NRUY.png[/url] ( Kinda worse than that ? ), but I can't be arsed to.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://puu.sh/7OJl8.png[/img]
That hostility.
From the looks of this thread, all I've seen is a bunch of bickering and slander with little or no evidence to back up a lot of it and I can say this for many sides, not just one. But, rather than joining in on this havoc, I suppose I've been included as well as chat logs between Leystryku and myself have been posted. As for the legitimacy, I can vouch for what Zero had said. My community was hit with a booter and it was indeed very annoying as we had experienced the long term effects for quite some hours and had to wait quite some time for a confession from Leystryku. As for the legitimacy of the chat log posted by Leystryku, it really just appears to be a "he said she said" kind of ordeal here. At the least I can say, after experiencing the booter attack along with having to post an announcement and explain what had happened to our server that appeared to be online but dysfunctional, that my experience was legitimate.
Again, I'd rather not get into this, though I could't help but notice the community I run and myself had been included. As for my reasoning, while I haven't much of a clue to much of Zero's negative reputation and while I don't intend on helping or fighting any fights for him, I have noticed this thread seemed to turn into a kind of reputation appeal. So, if you all so happen to be interested in the reputations of certain people, such as Zero, I can certainly say Leystryku isn't as positive striking as what looks like the most of you believe. That's all, though. I really hope you all stop wasting your time trying to create interventions and simply let the topic die.
-snip, why did i even bother-
[QUOTE=Leystryku;44396214]It surely was rude, but it had a simple message, stop helping zero fight this fight.
The reason why it was rude is, professionalism isn't appropriate for such a person ( [url]http://puu.sh/7OQqR.png[/url] ), if he doesn't approach me in such a way, he doesn't deserve to be treated like that either.
You two keep repeating the DDoS, because it's the only negative thing you two know about me ( Even though it's totally irrelevant with this thread, with my coding, with his coding, with his anticheat, or my anticheat ), and I already said I did it that more than just once.
If you wouldn't be intending on helping him, or fighting fights for him, why would you be providing him with all information that could have a negative impact for me ( Screencaps, The chatlog above etc. ) ?
You're pretty much trying to help zero fight this fight, if you wouldn't, you wouldn't be trying to over-dramatize it and use it as defense - repeating it again and again, it's a simple tactic.
And like I said before, ( which you obviously haven't read, even though you quoted it ) - I don't want to pull anyone in this that doesn't have something to do with this or things that have nothing to do with this, like he obviously did.
I don't know what a person like you thinks "positive striking" is, but if it's for you about stuff like ddos or hacking/raiding servers, then I'm pretty positively striking compared to zero ( Even though I'm guessing YOU are seeing this as a chance for revenge because it was yours ). But let's just leave that out of the curtain.
I may not be always caring about professionalism, but when it's about code or my posts I nearly always do.
Since you're thinking that I dislike zero for no reason, let me explain you why.
1.
His attitude.
It's been mentioned several times, and it still is.
He has a huge superiority complex.
He always get's upset, but pretends like he doesn't care and ends up writing stuff like "everyones mad for no reason".
2.
The thing with QAC.
It's how I've gotten to know him.
He treated a lot of his customers pretty badly, kinda like if he doesn't even care about them.
He literally added himself to a whitelist ( Which made his AC not ban him ), writing a comment saying don't touch it, and comments like "nigga do u use evolve as your admin mod".
3.
He stole my Anti-Speedhack thingy.
I didn't really care about it, it was pretty small, but the idea alone was pretty smart.
The thing I didn't like is, he didn't even credit me.
He wrote HeX inside of the credit, saying HeX allowed him to use it, even though HeX only got it from me, and told HeX to give it to no one ( Which he didn't do either ).
I didn't tell him go and remove it, I just wanted him to give me my rightful credit, instead he posted it, and acted all upset.
He said stuff like "if i would've known about the hook i would've done it too" or "it's simple as fuck".
It ended up in his Anti Cheat getting removed from coderhire for all the racism and stuff.
Then he added few locals, saying he "recoded" the anti speedhack.
4.
He spread a leaked version of mine, and another anti cheat.
That pretty much filled the bottle.
It's one thing to steal code, it's another to claim it as yours, but it's a hole lot worse to leak code.
I'm guessing he did it to make me mad, which he kinda failed at though.
5.
Rarely admitting.
He of course tried lying himself out of the c&p thing, for the sake of his reputation.
First he said it's my idea, then he suddenly says it's his, and I'm a liar.
Wait, hold on, where'd I lie ?
And it's funny that he tries to distract from the fact by bringing up that DDoS story between me and Kitteh.
Kitteh seems to see it as a nice chance too, for a sweet vengeance.
But I'm guessing he's just bringing that up as distraction because he has nothing else that he could use, it's what he's been trying to do from the start.
Also that thing above, with the whitelist, which later only was "left in by accident" and the comment was only "referenced to the lines above it".
6.
Never subjecting.
Someone posts a response, he posts a response, he never gives up, it's worse than with Tyler.
Regardless what you try to proof him wrong about, he always tries to stay on top,
regardless of how many people are trying or how much proof is provided.
I'm guessing this is linked with the problem mentioned in 1.[/QUOTE]
The amount of time you guys take to argue with each other could really be used on something way better, Plus Do you guys even have a life?
[QUOTE=BigBadWilly;44396820]The amount of time you guys take to argue with each other could really be used on something way better, Plus Do you guys even have a life?[/QUOTE]
i guess we dont willy, i guess we dont.
I'm fairly done with the argument. qac is bad, I don't plan on updating it any further. Anyone is free to use QAC's code to anything they want (dont think they would anyways)
This is a simple free alternative to leyac for now. That is all
Zero, since everyone else in the thread is being an ass, I'd like to take this time to say thank you. QAC did what it was intended to do.
On a side note, I'm laughing at the amount of people on here that go out of their way just to insult, derail, and flame on this thread. Honestly, I'm looking forward to see all the bans pop up.
The ballad of Sonicscream and anyone that dislikes Zero:
[img]http://4st.me/EbKAG.png[/img]
[img]http://4st.me/pCPjL.png[/img]
[img]http://4st.me/18zPh.png[/img]
[img]http://4st.me/F4hsH.png[/img]
I see that Zero needed someone to back him up because he cannot take the amounts of criticism he's receiving, anyone that went against him got rated dumb by this idiot who obviously has no clue what he's talking about, I understand the Buttmad, and I just have to say.
[img]http://4st.me/zWUql.png[/img]
[img]http://puu.sh/7PBQF.png[/img]
Didn't you say that you stopped exploiting servers quite a long time ago? These logs would say otherwise.
[QUOTE=Reyjr43;44401330]The ballad of Sonicscream and anyone that dislikes Zero:
[img]http://4st.me/EbKAG.png[/img]
[img]http://4st.me/pCPjL.png[/img]
[img]http://4st.me/18zPh.png[/img]
[img]http://4st.me/F4hsH.png[/img]
I see that Zero needed someone to back him up because he cannot take the amounts of criticism he's receiving, anyone that went against him got rated dumb by this idiot who obviously has no clue what he's talking about, I understand the Buttmad, and I just have to say.
[img]http://4st.me/zWUql.png[/img]
[img]http://puu.sh/7PBQF.png[/img]
Didn't you say that you stopped exploiting servers quite a long time ago? These logs would say otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Can we not just stfu up and just simply end this fight and let it die, There is a PM system for a reason.....
[QUOTE=Reyjr43;44401330][img]http://4st.me/18zPh.png[/img][/QUOTE] omg my name is there, I'm famous!!!
[QUOTE=Reyjr43;44401330]
Didn't you say that you stopped exploiting servers quite a long time ago? These logs would say otherwise.
[/QUOTE]
I too remember him saying something like that.
[QUOTE=Reyjr43;44401330]-snip-[/QUOTE]
You know, Reyjr43... I was going to waste a good 45 minutes to sit here and sift through the thread to pick up every little unsubstantiated and slanderous claim you all have made going out of your way to derail the thread and flame Zero about his actions.. but I'd be derailing the thread more.
You probably realize how much of it is bullshit already, anyways.
Time to sleep!
It's a entire shame you released this. You kinda let down your buyers and now people will work onto workarounds of this AC.
[QUOTE=mib999;44440237]It's a entire shame you released this. You kinda let down your buyers and now people will work onto workarounds of this AC.[/QUOTE]
Well it is his script. He should do as he pleases. And since he was banned no one could buy or update it anymore because it was removed. At least others can still access it.
(And Zero I apologize to you. I'm normally not the "flaming" type)
[QUOTE=Aeternal;44440627]Well it is his script. He should do as he pleases. And since he was banned no one could buy or update it anymore because it was removed. At least others can still access it.
(And Zero I apologize to you. I'm normally not the "flaming" type)[/QUOTE]
It's just unfair to those who spent money on this script where it is now free. Cock move, if I gotta say.
[QUOTE=mib999;44440798]It's just unfair to those who spent money on this script where it is now free. Cock move, if I gotta say.[/QUOTE]
annnd? Now that I'm banned from CH. No one is being stopped from using a leaked copy.
I prefer people using an official safe copy rather than a edited and possibly malicious leaked one.
[QUOTE=mib999;44440798]It's just unfair to those who spent money on this script where it is now free. Cock move, if I gotta say.[/QUOTE]
It was 5 dollars,
I spent 6 dollars on lunch today
It's not going to break your bank
[img]http://4st.me/bDAaU.png[/img]
Uh oh, I made Zero mad offsite.
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("enough with this dumb drama derailing" - postal))[/highlight]
Zero should just leave.
You guys have harassed him enough. Just give him a fucking break.
[QUOTE=code_gs;44447559]You guys have harassed him enough. Just give him a fucking break.[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to harass him - I'm saying that he's screwed up his reputation here, he doesn't want to improve or care, and he always seems to be full-blown mad at everyone. I don't understand why he sticks around.
Because it's a forum and he has the right to? He's made it apparent that he is no longer updating QAC and that he released his finished version of it. This is not a community drama thread in GMod GD, it's a release thread.
All I know is that I was told that QAC has some backdoors allowing the creator to access my server files and simply put fuck over my server. I don't know if it is true, but if someone would be willing to explain how he could do this and not feel like a piece of shit that would be great...
[QUOTE=Frubbs;44447905]All I know is that I was told that QAC has some backdoors allowing the creator to access my server files and simply put fuck over my server. I don't know if it is true, but if someone would be willing to explain how he could do this and not feel like a piece of shit [/QUOTE]
I do not believe its true or it would have been recognised by now. I wouldn't put it past zerothefallen though it is something he would do
Anyone that disagrees that zerothefallen isn't a narcissistic 12 year old scammer probably fall into the following.
- didn't pay for the script and they don't care because they are a pos.
- want to use the script on their server so they don't care if they support a pos or are a pos
-blind loyalty fallacy
Or they just support scammers/narcissism. But anyway just let zero deal with his new reputation, he can hang out with all the other toolbags and scammers, it seems all the people with brains have noticed what he is doing. Besides, even If he removed it everyone is still going to think of him as a douchebag, because he still did it.
[QUOTE=Aeternal;44440627]Well it is his script. He should do as he pleases. And since he was banned no one could buy or update it anymore because it was removed. At least others can still access it.
(And Zero I apologize to you. I'm normally not the "flaming" type)[/QUOTE]
Excellent, flawless logic. 10/10.
Pure genius
[QUOTE=code_gs;44447609]Because it's a forum and he has the right to? He's made it apparent that he is no longer updating QAC and that he released his finished version of it. This is not a community drama thread in GMod GD, it's a release thread.[/QUOTE]
You know what seems to be common in this thread, is people arguing irrelevant situations. Lol hurrDurRr I can't find a single possible logical reason to support what he did, but i want to argee with him cause I want this script, hmm... i'll just mention some completely irrelevant thing and try to change the subject.
[QUOTE]
Think about the last time you ran into a coworker or family member spouting some easily disproven conspiracy theory -- somebody who still thinks Obama's birth certificate is a fake or that Dick Cheney arranged 9/11 to cover up his theft of $2.3 trillion from the government. When they were shown proof that their conspiracy theory was wrong, did they back down? Did they get this look of realization on their face and say, "Wow ... if this is untrue, then maybe the other 'facts' upon which I've based my fringe beliefs also aren't true. Thank you, kind stranger, for helping me rethink my entire political philosophy!"
Whether it's a politician whose point has been refuted or a conspiracy theorist who has been definitively proven insane, they will immediately shift to the next talking point or conspiracy theory that backs up their side, not even skipping a beat. They keep fighting to defend their position even after it is factually shown to be untrue.
[/QUOTE]
Maybe you've read that before? Well, there is what you suffer from.
[QUOTE=Scratch.;44447173]It was 5 dollars,
I spent 6 dollars on lunch today
It's not going to break your bank[/QUOTE]
How brilliant. They admit that what he did was wrong but they continue to defend him because of the amount he stole? LMFAO
[QUOTE=LauScript;44451313]You know what seems to be common in this thread, is people arguing irrelevant situations. Lol hurrDurRr I can't find a single possible logical reason to support what he did, but i want to argee with him cause I want this script, hmm... i'll just mention some completely irrelevant thing and try to change the subject.[/QUOTE]
I'm not defending him, nor will I ever use QAC. I'm just trying to be unbiased. All I'm saying is that you're stooping to his level when you make insults such as:
[QUOTE=wauterboi;44447504]Zero should just leave.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Aeternal;44389005]Poor you. Want a sucker? Maybe a bandage on your boo-boo? You sound ridiculous. Get over yourself you washed up has been.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ks_uw-the_cat;44367931]you're just a copypasting skiddo that pretends to be a coder.[/QUOTE]
Both parties are at fault for taking stupid potshots at each other. Either way, this is a release thread, not a drama thread.
[QUOTE=code_gs;44452437]I'm not defending him, nor will I ever use QAC. I'm just trying to be unbiased. All I'm saying is that you're stooping to his level when you make insults such as:
Both parties are at fault for talking stupid potshots at each other. Either way, this is a release thread, not a drama thread.[/QUOTE]
Actually it is a drama thread because of zero choosing a "coincidental" time to release it to the public.
[QUOTE=code_gs;44452437]I'm not defending him, nor will I ever use QAC. I'm just trying to be unbiased. All I'm saying is that you're stooping to his level when you make insults such as:
Both parties are at fault for talking stupid potshots at each other. Either way, this is a release thread, not a drama thread.[/QUOTE]
This may be a release thread, and as you said about zero, "this is a forum and he has the right to stick around".
This may be resulting in drama, but it's a relevant topic and (i'd hope) we have the right to address it as a public issue and what better place to address it than it's own thread? Would you have me PM him and tell him how unethical I think he is? What is that going to solve? If nobody would have brought the 'drama' to this thread, nobody would even have any idea that he sold this to a bunch of people and then gave it away right afterwards.
Although you are correct in a manner that, now, this 'drama' isn't going to lead to anything but drama. Originally it had been in an attempt to possibly get this removed, although he could just release it somewhere else I would assume facepunch wouldn't want people to think it condones this type of scam on people? But I guess they do or they just don't view it as a big deal, but things like this are obviously becoming common. It'd be better not to allow this type of behaviour than to rely on a bunch of younger kids to figure out whether or not the developer they are buying from is a cunt who is just going to give the stuff they payed for out. Even if they aren't young, or if they are capable of detecting a scam like this( how would you? lol), I think it's pretty silly that facepunch would allow them to do it on their own forums, I mean they don't allow warez?
Okay, I'm not gonna say which side I'm on here, but let's just make this pretty clear:
[B]By continuing to argue amongst yourselves you are giving this thread more visibility by bumping it up to the top of the list. BOTH sides are [i]not[/i] helping the reputation of Zero by arguing here nor is it helping this release out in [i]any[/i] way. The best thing to do is to drop this and let it burn in inactivity instead of continuing to argue.[/B]
This has been going on for days now. We get it. Seriously, we do. There are clearly people who think he's a scam by posting this, there are others who think that he's fine by posting this... [i]there is no reason to keep arguing about this[/i] because you're not going to change anyone's minds. If people want to use this, they will. If they don't, simple as that. Arguing about it and continuing to bump this thread up just to argue will help [i]no one[/i]. Just drop it, seriously.
I still fail to see how me releasing my add-on somehow begs people to attempt to attack me and or whatever they feel like. The drama is long past and people keep trying to take pot shots at me to attempt to prove some point.
Lau, I don't care if I "stole cash" from all my customers. It's my code, I get to choose to release it or not afterwards. I never guaranteed it private forever. Stop forcing your own little morals on everyone else.
At this point, it's a gigantic ego thrusting contest. "HEY GUYS, LOOK AT HOW MUCH OF A DOUCHE THIS GUY IS, PLEASE PRAISE ME :^)))))"
This thread is for the releasing of QAC, not your feelings nor anything else of relevance. Either stay on topic or please don't post at all.
its quite impressive how fast anticheat threads get derailed
[QUOTE=nettsam;44453984]its quite impressive how fast anticheat threads get derailed[/QUOTE]
No dude, this is impressive right here.
[QUOTE=zerothefallen;44453570][b][u]I still fail to see how me releasing my add-on somehow begs people to attempt to attack me and or whatever they feel like.[/u][/b] The drama is long past and people keep trying to take pot shots at me to attempt to prove some point.
Lau, [b][u]I don't care if I "stole cash" from all my customers[/u][/b]. It's my code, I get to choose to release it or not afterwards. I never guaranteed it private forever. Stop forcing your own little morals on everyone else[/QUOTE]
btw putting quotes around "stole cash" doesn't make it look like you did it any less.
Anyway I'm done here, it's clear the mods obviously don't care about this sort of thing for whatever reason so, sorry for derail.
[QUOTE=LauScript;44456705]No dude, this is impressive right here.
btw putting quotes around "stole cash" doesn't make it look like you did it any less.
Anyway I'm done here, it's clear the mods obviously don't care about this sort of thing for whatever reason so, sorry for derail.[/QUOTE]
there are mods on facepunch??
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